Steam

InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
Ok I have a request. I want somebody to lay down EVERYTHING about Steam in plain simple english without the PR crap. Lay everything out for me very simply. Make it point form, use simple words and simple to comprehend. It's just gotten a little too complicated for a LOT of people to understand.

I'm sick and tired trying to find a place where it lists how Steam works without a bunch of technical crap on top of it. Just tell me how it WORKS. I know a little about it, but there is a mountain of stuff I don't... so I need help. As do many other people.

I have a couple of questions as well (Which you should answer post haste!):
1.) Will patches for HL1, 2 and etc be ONLY available through Steam. Or will I still be able to download them elsewhere.
2.) Do I need Steam installed. Or can I get my SteamID to act like my WonID and just authenticate me using a number without the need to have Steam installed...

Right. Get cracking please ;o

I appreciate it...

Comments

  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    edited September 2003
    Assuming you buy the Third SKU provided by valve linking you directly to the steam interface without proper GUI porportions, you will be forced to expend ten US dollars per average of 30 days in order for survice to continue. If your ten US dollars are not procured by valve by a set date and time then service is terminated within the limits set down in the server use guide which you have signed.

    God. Whats so hard about that?


    **edit** fine.

    1) No - and even if they are "steam" only they will be on many mirriors within 30 mins of the release anyway.
    2) As far as I know (about two feet) you dont need steam and can still use GSA/ASE. I believe Steam is now just the new way of finding games inside the game.
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    I bring you death in the form of corn holders....
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    lts give this a start:
    steam is green
    it lets you look at servers without launching the game
    it updates games and itself automatically
    it lets you chat with your firends
    it lets you se what your friends are doing (and lets you follw them into a game)
    it lets you play cards
    it lets you refresh a serverlist while in game
    it FIXES THE NOSOUND BUG W00T
    its green
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited September 2003
    Should I err somewhere, just smack me, people...

    Steam is going to be a stream-based online game service. This means that it functions by feeding your PC the games data 'munch-wise'. If you are, for example, to play a demo of a new game, you load Steam up, activate it, and start playing while the content is downloaded as it is needed. This means that the biggest part of Steam won't be of interest to dial-up users. As Steam requires an infrastructure similiar in scope to WON, it will however also be used for multiplayer gaming. You won't notice a big difference between this and, say, Battle.net. You hook yourself up, get a free account, and search for servers / buddies / what have you.
    Payment for Steam will depend on what services you wish to use. The highest price is ten bucks a month. This package allows you to d/l whatever you wish, including full games, from Steams servers. Other packages will offer you the download of mods for certain games - HL2 will for example come in a 'sparse' version for people who want the single player and nothing more, and more full versions, with the general 'SP+MP+mods+some occasional free stuff' being available for the price of a normal game. If you buy the game off the shelve, you'll obtain a license to use Steams services for this game for as long as you wish.
    Valve is planning on offering Steam-specific content (such as the DvD quality videos we all saw), extended demos, for example, that will be offered to general subscribers who do not only use Steam for a single game.

    This is the rough and ready stuff. Steam is basically an assembly of servers that you will use when obtaining Valve products. In what way you will use them and how much money you wish to invest, either once or per month, will be up to you.
  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nemesis Zero+Sep 10 2003, 02:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Sep 10 2003, 02:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Should I err somewhere, just smack me, people...

    Steam is going to be a stream-based online game service. This means that it functions by feeding your PC the games data 'munch-wise'. If you are, for example, to play a demo of a new game, you load Steam up, activate it, and start playing while the content is downloaded as it is needed. This means that the biggest part of Steam won't be of interest to dial-up users. As Steam requires an infrastructure similiar in scope to WON, it will however also be used for multiplayer gaming. You won't notice a big difference between this and, say, Battle.net. You hook yourself up, get a free account, and search for servers / buddies / what have you.
    Payment for Steam will depend on what services you wish to use. The highest price is ten bucks a month. This package allows you to d/l whatever you wish, including full games, from Steams servers. Other packages will offer you the download of mods for certain games - HL2 will for example come in a 'sparse' version for people who want the single player and nothing more, and more full versions, with the general 'SP+MP+mods+some occasional free stuff' being available for the price of a normal game. If you buy the game off the shelve, you'll obtain a license to use Steams services for this game for as long as you wish.
    Valve is planning on offering Steam-specific content (such as the DvD quality videos we all saw), extended demos, for example, that will be offered to general subscribers who do not only use Steam for a single game.

    This is the rough and ready stuff. Steam is basically an assembly of servers that you will use when obtaining Valve products. In what way you will use them and how much money you wish to invest, either once or per month, will be up to you. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    this differs from what i said how?
    except for that first/middle/last part <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    Nem - you sound like you know what you're talking about. Do you know if we can still use GSA/ASE/Any third party software to play HL2 MP? (If its like bnet then I doubt it :-/
  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    edited September 2003
    Steam is:

    <ul>
    <li><u>A server browser</u>:
    No one said you had to use it.
    <li><u>A buddy tracker</u>:
    It tracks buddies in all valve games and mods and allows you to message them ingame. You can also play chess, checkers and whatnot with them.
    <li><u>An automatic update system</u>:
    When HL2 comes out steam will be constantly modifying it's base code to foil leet haxors. Hours after a new cheat being discovered steam clients around the world will be patching HL2. For the moment steam allows lazy broadband users to have HL1 updated automatically. Us 56kers are still able to disable the automatic updates and download them the old fashioned way.
    <li><u>A replacement for WON</u>:
    When the steam registration comes online you will enter your CDKEY and your email. Steam will then assign you a STEAMID number. From then on, instead of authing to WON when you connect to a server, you will auth with steam. You must have steam running in the background (Almost sure)
    <li><b><u>FREE</u></b>:
    When you purchase HL2 you will have full access to steam’s automatic update facilities and some other goodies like movies and whatnot. Instead of buying HL2 at the shop you can subscribe for USD$10 a month and have access to ALL of the games that valve produces. This includes HL2 and it’s official add-ons. Think Opposing Forces and Blue Shift. <b>NOT</b> mods. Alternatively you can just buy HL2 via steam (For a reduced price), download it and play as if you bought it at the shop.
    </ul>

    AFAIK.

    --Scythe--
  • StakhanovStakhanov Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14448Members
    The important question here : will we have to pay anything to keep playing NS 2.1 and further versions ?
  • EmseeEmsee Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16644Members, Constellation
    NS and most other mod's will still be free and some will be available to download on steam. Currently the Valve mods ie. CS, DOD TFC DMC and Ricochet are available as free downloads and free to play if you have steam (And HL of course), though valve are geting in contact with other modmakers to talk about making their mods available through it aswell.
    Steam could possibly make it possible for modmakers to charge for their mods, but I havn't heard anything about this for a long time so it was probably scrapped. Besides their would be legal implications with Valve owning HL and all.
    But just to reiterate some importent points.
    NS will always be free
    Steam is not Pay to Play
    Steam will enable you to buy HL2 and other Valve products at either a one time fee
    OR
    $10 a month which gives access to all valve games on steam. EG. for the first month or 2 you will pay $10 a month for HL2 and the assorted official mods that go with it.(like TFC that came with some verions of HL)
    Then in a few months time $10 will get you HL2+official mods + HL2 XP 1 and 2 and what other steam games valve has released for a months play.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    ok, so that's how it works.

    you update steam to be able to create your steam account.
    Once you get your account, you update steam to be able to use your account.
    Once you are able to use your account, you update steam to get the games you wanted.
    Once you get the games you wanted, you update steam to be able to launch the games you wanted.
    Once you launch a game you want, you have to update it in game to be able to play.


    ya know, it's doing automatic updates so you don't notice when they happen <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->


    More seriously though, it's a platform that lets you buy games online and have those online shoppers play the same game on the same network than those that buy it instore. In other words, if you buy HL2 instore, you'll play on steam free, but if you buy it on steam, steam won't be free.
    It also uses SteamID to be able to have "friends" or some kind of in-game Instant messenger (and play checkers!)
    Steam also has a server browser for all games installed, and many other functions we could have before the imposing of Steam.

    I think most of it has been explained. Now on to the actual price. <b>this is just what I understood/think</b>
    There are different "formulas" of which these two

    -The free steam account. You are able to log on to steam, but not get any new games. With this account, steam will only allow you to play games you bought in a store.
    -The paying steam account. You are able to log on to steam in order to access the whole "library" of games available. With this account, you are able to play any game available on steam, even if you don't own a copy. In this case, you will download a limited copy that allows you to play as long as you are subscribing to Steam. If you pay the monthly fee, you will be able to play everything. But as soon as you stop paying, your account will get locked and prevent you from playing any game.
  • EdcrabEdcrab Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4324Members
    Hmm. As a 56ker, my only worry regarding Steam is that HL2 (and HL1 LAN) will require an active internet connection even to play a single player or LAN game- if that's the case, and they don't fix it soon, the game'll be useless to me. (I find it funny that a few people thought I was insane... yet it might happen now. AARGH!)

    Genuine thanks to those that explained it, I'd got the gist of the system but I was still a little concerned regarding automatic updates and suchlike.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    no. It has been confusing because it stated that you could be getting a SP-only version of HL2. In the case in which you wanted to play HL2 multiplay, you would need a connection from this point.

    From this point reffers to the point where HL2 isn't SP but MP. Which means you'd need a connection only if you play online.
  • EdcrabEdcrab Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4324Members
    I know Valve aren't paint-drinkers or anything, but the fact that such a system was even considered in Steam's earlier days is quite worrying. The idea of playing LAN or SP without an internet connection was so simple that its little wonder why no one gave it a second thought until the arrival of slightly confusing replies (I'm especially lazy, so just <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=46826' target='_blank'>try here</a> for the FAQ links).
  • CaLFiNCaLFiN Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6909Members
    OK, can somebody explain this.

    Do you <b>have</b> to download Steam? I was under the impression that in two weeks when WON goes does, you will automatically get assigned a SteamID. Is the program not just an extra which you can get if you want?
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    Yes, you MUST download Steam.

    How **** retarded is that?
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    for now it's optional but in 2 weeks time you'll HAVE to be on steam because WON will have been eradicated and all the game servers you enjoy playing on will be steam based <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    course, this is only if you want to play online, you could probably quite happily play the old WON version offline or with non-Steamed LAN friends but don't expect any updates =P
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    This "content delivery system" - the playing of games server-side through your broadband connection - is going to really <i>hurt</i>, bandwidth wise...
  • ViolenceJackViolenceJack Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5624Members
    I dunno about any one else but when i was making an account it said i have 1 month free steam p2p or somin. Could be able to play HL2 for a month free when the p2p thing starts <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> that would be nice.
  • ubermenschubermensch Join Date: 2002-12-31 Member: 11692Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--Infinitum+Sep 10 2003, 02:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infinitum @ Sep 10 2003, 02:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm sick and tired trying to find a place where it lists how Steam works without a bunch of technical crap on top of it. Just tell me how it WORKS. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    /laugh
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