I Have A Doubt...

DEMIURGODEMIURGO Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17565Members
in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">is the game unbalanced?</div> No i'm serious... i've always been agains people shouting that the game is unfair but... since i've returned to italy (16 august, thank you NY blackout :mad: ) i've never seen a SINGLE game won by the Marines.


Now i'm asking... why?
I've seen Onis recover games like 1hive vs HA.... that's a little weird...

Tell me i'm wrong please...
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  • TyphonTyphon Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1899Members
    what version you playing? In 2.01d I'm seeing more and more marine wins.
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  • EEEEEE Join Date: 2003-09-04 Member: 20557Members
    its not completely unbalanced but i do say aliens have more power than the marines

    marine in ha gets taken down by 3 offense towers and a skult biting him

    Fade can take on loads of ppl with shotties/light machine guns.

    Also the offense towers are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too powerful for aliens
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  • Cheez1Cheez1 Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12900Members
    edited September 2003
    1) fades die to 2-3 shotgunners. Period.

    2) HA will only die if they go out alone. Stay with a group and stay ALIVE!

    3) Marine's weapons are 100x more powerful than aliens. This is a fact. The only time skulks can be considered more powerful than marines is for about the first 3 minutes of the games (before lv1 weapons/armor).

    Balance is not needed. Squads and teamwork is.

    I barely see any comms use the "squads" feature. Heck i even use it to hotkey buildings like the Obs and arms lab.If you want to encourage your people to stick together, put them in a squad! It works!
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  • Ben128Ben128 Join Date: 2002-06-21 Member: 808Members, Constellation
    Aliens need less teamwork to win in a public match. In 2.01d a lot of that makes it just as hard for the aliens to win without teamwork equal to the marines.

    It seems that it has gottten much better these last few weeks on 2.0 servers. It has on my own as well. Marines win about 20%-30% or so of the matches.
    I like it that way though, marines will win, and the often do win... if they have a really good team.

    It kinda goes like this nifty little chart I will make.
    teamwork level

    marine team (weak)|Alien team(weak) Aliens win
    marine team (moderate)|Alien team (weak) 50/50
    marine team (awesome)|Alien team (weak) Marines win
    Marine team (awesome)|Alien team (moderate) 50/50
    Marine team (awesome)|Alien team (awesome) 30/70

    If aliens have even moderate teamwork they will at least be equal to an awesome marine team, just out of ease of gameplay for them.
    Now when both teams are of great skill, its almost equal, but aliens tend to do better just tade. If both teams are weak, the aliens win the vast majority of games.

    All data is based on my server only. But we have a pretty varied group. So I dont know really how other servers are doing.
    I have put in many hours of 2.01d on other servers as well.
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  • JimBowenJimBowen Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16873Members, Constellation
    in 2.01 I think the marine wins are far more frequent.
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  • EEEEEE Join Date: 2003-09-04 Member: 20557Members
    ill admit i didnt play he old 1.x versions so i wouldnt no the unbalances. If youve got a slightly moderate team with aliens and skulk rush you win.....thats holw it always seems to go with me
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  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    Anyone who **** about marines never winning can go CRAM IT SISTER!
    Try playing 2.01d
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  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Yes, 2.0 is unbalanced. Look for a 2.01d server. This is an ooooold argument.
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