Crashing When Joining Teams

Kalopsia

Ok this really shits me, every map i have made i always get this problem and i give up fro there cause i try so many things to stop it but it keeps on happening. When ever i try and join a team , it crashes, WTH .
heres the compile process:

btw: not sure if this usually happens but i notice when i compile it saves a log document in the folder called wsock32.log .

<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->hlcsg v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7p10 (May  8 2003)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (webmaster@xp-cagey.com)
-----  BEGIN  hlcsg -----
Command line: "C:\Program Files\Valve Hammer Editor\tools\hlcsg.exe"-hullfile C:\Sierra\Half-Life\ns\nshulls.txt -chart "C:\Documents and Settings\Leigh\Desktop\ns_bell\8\ns_bell.map"
Loading hull definitions from 'C:\Sierra\Half-Life\ns\nshulls.txt'
Entering C:\Documents and Settings\Leigh\Desktop\ns_bell\8\ns_bell.map

Current hlcsg Settings
Name                 |  Setting  |  Default
---------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads               [       1 ] [  Varies ]
verbose               [     off ] [     off ]
log                   [      on ] [      on ]
developer             [       0 ] [       0 ]
chart                 [      on ] [     off ]
estimate              [     off ] [     off ]
max texture memory    [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority              [  Normal ] [  Normal ]

noclip                [     off ] [     off ]
null texture stripping[      on ] [      on ]
clipnode economy mode [      on ] [      on ]
clip hull type        [  legacy ] [  legacy ]
onlyents              [     off ] [     off ]
wadtextures           [      on ] [      on ]
skyclip               [      on ] [      on ]
hullfile              [ C:\Sierra\Half-Life\ns\nshulls.txt ] [    None ]
nullfile              [    None ] [    None ]
min surface area      [   0.500 ] [   0.500 ]
brush union threshold [   0.000 ] [   0.000 ]

Using mapfile wad configuration
Wadinclude list :
[zhlt.wad]

0 brushes (totalling 0 sides) discarded from clipping hulls
CreateBrush:
(0.38 seconds)
SetModelCenters:
(0.00 seconds)
CSGBrush:
(1.88 seconds)

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texdata          [variable]          0/4194304  ( 0.0%)
lightdata        [variable]          0/6291456  ( 0.0%)
visdata          [variable]          0/2097152  ( 0.0%)
entdata          [variable]          0/524288   ( 0.0%)
0 textures referenced
=== Total BSP file data space used: 57360 bytes ===

Using Wadfile: \sierra\half-life\ns\ns.wad
- Contains 2 used textures, 4.76 percent of map (578 textures in wad)
Using Wadfile: \sierra\half-life\valve\halflife.wad
- Contains 2 used textures, 4.76 percent of map (3116 textures in wad)
Using Wadfile: \sierra\half-life\ns\ns_bell.wad
- Contains 38 used textures, 90.48 percent of map (116 textures in wad)

Texture usage is at 2.19 mb (of 4.00 mb MAX)
3.69 seconds elapsed

-----   END   hlcsg -----



hlbsp v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7p10 (May  8 2003)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (webmaster@xp-cagey.com)
-----  BEGIN  hlbsp -----
Command line: "C:\Program Files\Valve Hammer Editor\tools\hlbsp.exe"-chart "C:\Documents and Settings\Leigh\Desktop\ns_bell\8\ns_bell.map"

Current hlbsp Settings
Name               |  Setting  |  Default
-------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads             [       1 ] [  Varies ]
verbose             [     off ] [     off ]
log                 [      on ] [      on ]
developer           [       0 ] [       0 ]
chart               [      on ] [     off ]
estimate            [     off ] [     off ]
max texture memory  [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority            [  Normal ] [  Normal ]

noclip              [     off ] [     off ]
nofill              [     off ] [     off ]
null tex. stripping [      on ] [      on ]
notjunc             [     off ] [     off ]
subdivide size      [     240 ] [     240 ] (Min 64) (Max 512)
max node size       [    1024 ] [    1024 ] (Min 64) (Max 4096)


BSP generation successful, writing portal file 'C:\Documents and Settings\Leigh\Desktop\ns_bell\8\ns_bell.prt'

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nodes             496/32767      11904/786408   ( 1.5%)
texinfos          268/32767      10720/1310680  ( 0.8%)
faces            1045/65535      20900/1310700  ( 1.6%)
clipnodes        1368/32767      10944/262136   ( 4.2%)
leaves            271/8192        7588/229376   ( 3.3%)
marksurfaces     1293/65535       2586/131070   ( 2.0%)
surfedges        5019/512000     20076/2048000  ( 1.0%)
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42 textures referenced
=== Total BSP file data space used: 166117 bytes ===
1.96 seconds elapsed

-----   END   hlbsp -----



hlvis v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7p10 (May  8 2003)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (webmaster@xp-cagey.com)
-----  BEGIN  hlvis -----
Command line: "C:\Program Files\Valve Hammer Editor\tools\hlvis.exe"-full -chart "C:\Documents and Settings\Leigh\Desktop\ns_bell\8\ns_bell.map"
176 portalleafs
445 numportals

-= Current hlvis Settings =-
Name               |  Setting  |  Default
-------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads             [       1 ] [  Varies ]
verbose             [     off ] [     off ]
log                 [      on ] [      on ]
developer           [       0 ] [       0 ]
chart               [      on ] [     off ]
estimate            [     off ] [     off ]
max texture memory  [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
max vis distance    [       0 ] [       0 ]
priority            [  Normal ] [  Normal ]

fast vis            [     off ] [     off ]
full vis            [      on ] [     off ]


BasePortalVis:
(0.07 seconds)
LeafThread:
(1.30 seconds)
average leafs visible: 65
g_visdatasize:2658  compressed from 3872

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42 textures referenced
=== Total BSP file data space used: 168775 bytes ===
1.53 seconds elapsed

-----   END   hlvis -----



hlrad v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7p10 (May  8 2003)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (webmaster@xp-cagey.com)
-----  BEGIN  hlrad -----
Command line: "C:\Program Files\Valve Hammer Editor\tools\hlrad.exe"-sparse -nopaque -bounce 1 -chart "C:\Documents and Settings\Leigh\Desktop\ns_bell\8\ns_bell.map"

-= Current hlrad Settings =-
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priority             [            Normal ] [            Normal ]

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[Reading texlights from 'C:\Program Files\Valve Hammer Editor\tools\lights.rad']
[7 texlights parsed from 'C:\Program Files\Valve Hammer Editor\tools\lights.rad']

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417 direct lights

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(22.76 seconds)
BuildVisLeafs:
(7.53 seconds)
visibility matrix   :   1.4 megs
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(0.82 seconds)

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46.22 seconds elapsed

-----   END   hlrad -----



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Ollj

It usually crashes when you join marines first. Just join aliens, f4 and then join marines and its fine.
Sometimes this is caused by the AAAtrigger texture on the join_team brushes.
Sometimes its an info_team_start too close to the wall so you start seeing the void.
Its a random error caused by some ns_specific entities.

Kalopsia

ok thanks alot, i was worried for a while thinking there is no cure

Kalopsia

<!--QuoteBegin--Ollj+Sep 4 2003, 03:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ollj @ Sep 4 2003, 03:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It usually crashes when you join marines first. Just join aliens, f4 and then join marines and its fine.
Sometimes this is caused by the AAAtrigger texture on the join_team brushes.
Sometimes its an info_team_start too close to the wall so you start seeing the void.
Its a random error caused by some ns_specific entities. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
is there any solution or fix that can be used to stop this cause it is really annoying ?

Ollj

Use NULL instead of AAtrigger. (fixes it in 60% of all cases)
Rebuild join team zones. (fixes another 25%)
Ask xp-cagey if its a problem with its compiling tool version.
Hunt down flayra for his sometimes buggy freeware code.

Cagey

<!--QuoteBegin--Ollj+Sep 4 2003, 02:53 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ollj @ Sep 4 2003, 02:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ask xp-cagey if its a problem with its compiling tool version. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not that I know of...

Olmy

Umm i know this might sound rediculous, but is it possible that you are using the old fgd from 1.0? Or have you tested other maps recently without a problem. This happened to me once after changing over to 2.0, compiling with the old fgd and the game would crash. Sounds similiar to your problem.