Upgrade Levels?

zpx85zpx85 Join Date: 2003-09-03 Member: 20532Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Question involving levels</div> As an alien when you want to evolve a special skill (like adrenaline) it says (Increase 33% energy rate per level), after I use this evolve its grayed out, is there anyway to use it again to make it become more powerful (increase the level)?

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  • CutterJoeCutterJoe Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11594Members, Constellation
    The abilities go up in level with each type of chamber built up to 3. So if you get adrenaline at one movement chamber you will have level 1 adren. After another is built you will have level 2 and when the third is build level 3. Same goes for defense and sensory chambers. You evolve the upgrade once and depending on the number of chambers(up to three) is how many levels you get.
  • SakuraSakura Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13789Members, Constellation
    That also means, that once you have chosen an upgrade (eg. adrenalin), you cannot choose another upgrade of that category (eg. movement) for the rest of the lifetime of that particular alien. So make sure to consider what you will be doing in 2 minutes too (if you expect to live that long) and choose wisely.
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    You cannot build the chambers yourself unless you are a Gorge lifeform, btw.
    Don't go gorge unless you know what you are doing.
  • KoenigKoenig Join Date: 2003-01-23 Member: 12659Members
    Naah, you can go gorge if you want to try it out, it 2.0 now, and a "green" gorge does not mean defeat anymore.

    Just be sure to follow some simple guidelines.

    1. If you want to build an upgrade chamber, make sure to get one that the team agrees on, othewise they'll be (rightfully) **** off.

    2. Remember to heal your fellow aliens, healspray is also a great close combat weapon so consider supporting.

    3. Do something for the team and put up Ressource towers whenever possible.
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    I'll compromise and say that you can go gorge if you ASK first. This is only if you do not know what you are doing. Obviously, good gorges can evolve away.
  • Janus_KrugJanus_Krug Join Date: 2003-03-26 Member: 14906Members
    It doesn't really matter, because res is even between aliens now. If a guy wants to gorge and drop a couple o chambers instead of going, say, lerk, then what's to stop him? It doesn't really hurt the team anymore.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    I think its the given that the team state their opinions on the desired chambers and the correct one placed. forcing unwanted chambers is not nice ;p
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--BlueNovember+Sep 4 2003, 08:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlueNovember @ Sep 4 2003, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'll compromise and say that you can go gorge if you ASK first. This is only if you do not know what you are doing. Obviously, good gorges can evolve away. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, now you can gorge to your heart's content and don't need to worry about asking. The more gorges, the faster your side grows (even newbie gorges). It's the responsibility of the experienced gorges to make sure that the appropriate chamber is dropped first, and that's the only source of problems.
  • PaqPaq Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10876Members
    And if someone has already builded the chamber that everyone wants, then you dont have to worry about accidentily building the "wrong" chamber, because you cant until the second hive is done.

    And of course, you can build more those already selected chambers.
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--SoulSkorpion+Sep 4 2003, 09:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SoulSkorpion @ Sep 4 2003, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--BlueNovember+Sep 4 2003, 08:06 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlueNovember @ Sep 4 2003, 08:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'll compromise and say that you can go gorge if you ASK first. This is only if you do not know what you are doing. Obviously, good gorges can evolve away. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, now you can gorge to your heart's content and don't need to worry about asking. The more gorges, the faster your side grows (even newbie gorges). It's the responsibility of the experienced gorges to make sure that the appropriate chamber is dropped first, and that's the only source of problems. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Er... what if a newbie gorge decides to build 50 sensory chambers under the hive?
  • snozzlesnozzle Join Date: 2003-04-23 Member: 15788Members
    well thats one newbie gorge!
  • Swift_IdiotSwift_Idiot Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11883Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Er... what if a newbie gorge decides to build 50 sensory chambers under the hive? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    1) He would have problems after building 8 of them. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    2) What if he does? Are you still under the false impression that gorges recieve more Res than other aliens? Or are you under the mistaken idea that all the res the aliens have is shared among the team? Just to restate what most of us already know by heart, <b><i>THE RES ANY PARTICULAR ALIEN PLAYER HAS IS HIS TO DO WITH THAT WHICH HE WISHES.</i></b>

    Let's use a similar example. Lets say the aliens control the map, and a particular alien player who has been playing NS for a long time and is tired of actually TRYING to win the game decides, "You know what, I'm tired of trying to win the game. This is so boring. I KNOW WHAT I AM GOING TO DO. I AM GOING TO BUILD DC TOWERS UNTIL THEY REACH THE ROOF OR OTHER VERY HIGH LOCATIONS IN THE HIVE ROOMS AND OTHER ROOMS WHERE THERE IS NOTHING PARTICULARLY GOING ON."

    Since the places he is building are far from the action, it's not like he is making it impossible for other gorges to put down DCs. Since he is recieving as much res at the same rate as everyone else on the team, it's not like he is making things harder for any particular alien who wants to evolve up. He isn't STEALING res, he isn't being counterproductive, he's just being a happy little gorge who likes stacking DCs, then MCs, then OCs, then SCs until he reaches the roof of, say, REFINERY. Then takes a screen shot. The aliens have won the game already in my example, so it's no harm.

    There are very few ways you can hurt the team by going gorge. Maybe your team needs more skulks than gorges right now. Maybe the game is at the point where every alien on the team needs to be pushing the marines to win, and said gorge is off being useless. Maybe the gorge is maliciously blocking up elevators the rest of the team needs to use to get places, maybe the gorge is blocking the tops of ladders with chambers in order to make it impossible for Onii to go anywhere. However, A) gorges are still capable of helping out offensively, and B), you have to actually know what you're doing most of the time in order to cripple your team by blocking the vents, doors, ladders, and elevators with chambers. You can trap Onos in Powersilo in ns_nothing just by building a small tower of chambers under the quad lift, and building a single chamber overhanging the top of the ladder in the other direction. However, to do this, you actually have to know that you can block ladders by putting chambers at the top of them so that they form a roof on the top, and you have to know how to build chamber towers. You also have to be in a situation where people cannot build Movement Chambers, or if they do, that the only hive is Powersilo.

    Since I'm rambling uselessly, I should point out that this is yet another example of why fades, lerks, and skulks are S00P3R10RXXZ0R to onos. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> It's also an example of why alien structures need SOME way to be recycled, or at least need slightly stricter building proceedures.
  • BlueNovemberBlueNovember hax Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14137Members, Constellation
    Oh no. You can't argue your way out of this one. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    By going gorge and being silly...

    1) You may drop a chamber which leaves the team at a tactical disadvatage/goes against players' wishes
    2) You may prevent movement of aliens (and marines,) down a corridor with your WoL you mentioned
    3) YOU PREVENT A PROPER PLAYER JOINING THE TEAM!

    (3 is the mot important, and only applies when the team amounts already differ by 1. (1 more alien). That way, anyone joining the game must go marines instead. If that person is a great player, then that n00b gorge has, indirectly you may argue, REALLY hurt the team)

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    I should've taken debating lessons... I could have made a really great crooked political dude...
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