Move Over Cc Walling

bongfarmerbongfarmer Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13119Members
in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">theres a new cheese in town</div> We were down to one hive, but we had it very well defended and the mariens all had JP/gernades. They tried to seige but we kept attacking. So, instead of just marching into our base and killing us, the comm, lets-get0sum-****, sropped a dozen CC's, arms labs, everything, into our base. Now, the dumb OC's started trying to take down the CC's, and he fenced up the gorges in a CC cage. By the time we broke one or two the jet packers were already killing themselves with the gernades in our base

Either unbuilt marine buildings should have a LOT less hp than built ones, or OC's should target marines and turrets first, not target the closest thing
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  • TeflonTeflon Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20289Members
    edited August 2003
    There's an exploitable bug that allows unbuilt turrets to fire (Siege, anything). AFAIK I'm the only one who knows how to do it, but it's REALLY easy to do. (It requires a marine to build the first Tfac... that's it). If it got out, then... yeah, aliens would suddenly find their hive being sieged...
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  • JaspJasp Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13076Members
    This is a very legit tatic if the marines have JPs/GLs and enough res to drop 4 CCs in your hive and arms labs i think you are pretty much dead anyway.

    The fact is the marines wasted over 100 res dropping all that stuff in your hive which could of been used on kit, its the commanders choice ask me its a legit way to stop your troops being attacked by enemy OCs.

    Now if he was dropping CCs on onos and fades and such i would complain but i cant see any of that in your screenshot.
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  • TeflonTeflon Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20289Members
    This falls in the same area as standing on the Phase Gate.
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  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> move over CC wall? PSH! in seige007 i made a wall of ecletrified tfs, it kileld a crap load of fades lerks gorges and skulks and took the onos hella long time gto get across cuz of turrents shooting at them and if they climbed over it they had another 15-20 ft of electricity to go over, mwuahah we won that game too
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  • KwilKwil Join Date: 2003-07-06 Member: 17963Members
    I'm not sure about that.. standing on the phase gate does require some risk -- first you have to get to it. Then you have to hope that the commander wasn't sneaky and didn't place another one or another TF somewhere nearby.

    Dropping unbuilt structures really doesn't have much in the way of risk, and you can use it (as pointed out) to distract OC fire and lock in aliens.

    I wonder if maybe unbuilt structures shouldn't have any affect at all? You can't damage them, but they don't stop you or gunfire from going right through them. Probably wouldn't work, because aliens would just run around placing RTs and then coming back to build them when it was safe.
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  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    not really...

    i fail to see the problem with this.

    aliens do similar things when attacking marine outposts: you drop DC's or OC's etc, (assuming there no siege) and all the turrets shoot them, then th aliens can run in and take out the TF safely.

    aliens block vents and lifts with chambers which cost little and have little health, and people don't moan. As soon as commanders do it with expensive chairs, people moan .. i don't see the problem.

    and even if you do drop a chair on an onos / fade, practically every server has unstuck plugin now, so just type /stuck and the comm just wasted 25 res or however much it costs.
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  • bugulubugulu Join Date: 2003-08-14 Member: 19693Members
    play on servers that gives you a ban for cc spamming
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  • wlibaerswlibaers Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8685Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Teflon+Aug 30 2003, 02:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Teflon @ Aug 30 2003, 02:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There's an exploitable bug that allows unbuilt turrets to fire (Siege, anything). AFAIK I'm the only one who knows how to do it, but it's REALLY easy to do. (It requires a marine to build the first Tfac... that's it). If it got out, then... yeah, aliens would suddenly find their hive being sieged... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So why don't you post that in the bug forum instead of posting it here? And give a full description, don't worry about other people seeing it, the bug forum is moderated.
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  • TeflonTeflon Join Date: 2003-08-27 Member: 20289Members
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--wlibaers+Aug 30 2003, 05:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wlibaers @ Aug 30 2003, 05:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Teflon+Aug 30 2003, 02:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Teflon @ Aug 30 2003, 02:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There's an exploitable bug that allows unbuilt turrets to fire (Siege, anything). AFAIK I'm the only one who knows how to do it, but it's REALLY easy to do. (It requires a marine to build the first Tfac... that's it). If it got out, then... yeah, aliens would suddenly find their hive being sieged... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So why don't you post that in the bug forum instead of posting it here? And give a full description, don't worry about other people seeing it, the bug forum is moderated. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I did, but the bug is SO EASY to recreate it's not even funny. Easier then electirfying crap in your base. I just mentioned it so don't be surprised if suddenly 12 seige turrets go live right under your hive.

    I'm a poet and I don't know it! I'll make a rhyme every time!
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  • Adam0oAdam0o Join Date: 2003-08-22 Member: 20075Members, Constellation
    heres a better example <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Adam0oAdam0o Join Date: 2003-08-22 Member: 20075Members, Constellation
    edited August 2003
    and from another angle

    .....at least we won <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • The_SpectreThe_Spectre Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9212Members
    I don't really see what is lame or cheesy about this... If marines are willing to, and can afford to, spend hundreds of res on chaff just to distract a few OCs, I'd say let them. Would you rather have them hoard the res while they wear you down slowly? Sounds boring to me. You're not saying you would have won if they hadn't done this, are you?
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  • RoCkIn_RiCkYRoCkIn_RiCkY Join Date: 2003-08-28 Member: 20306Members
    That's a damn good tactic.
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  • A_Damn_FoolA_Damn_Fool Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19283Members
    Instead of trying to rationalize this and crap do me a favour and shut it! What he means is the comm doesnt have to be there to drop all this stuff. A GORGE DOES the comm is that invisible ninja dropping **** from the roof like crazy now if these unbuilt building were easy as pie to kill that be fine makes sense but **** like that litterally blocks you in and they can just walk in shotgun your hive and leave. Dont say well if they are willing to spend res on it makes it ok HEY IM WILLING TO SPEND RES ON AN ONOS AND REDEMPTION DOES THAT MAKE IT OK I CAN USE IT TO LIVE FOREVER? christ instead of saying well its a good tatic why not just step back, look at it, and say hey thats stupid why is something like that in here.
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  • ZERGZERG Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13132Members, Constellation
    Hahahah.. this reminds me of the time I commanded a game marines dominated and in spite of the aliens I dropped comm chairs in their hive and at random places. funny stuff
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  • Cry_HavocCry_Havoc Join Date: 2003-01-22 Member: 12593Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Adam0o+Aug 31 2003, 06:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Adam0o @ Aug 31 2003, 06:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> and from another angle

    .....at least we won <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You won a game consisting of only yourself?

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