Celebrations And Joy!

Marine0IMarine0I Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8639Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">The bolt action rifles are NERFED!!!</div> Spread the word my brothers - the bolt actions from the insane halflife mod Day of Defeat are finally going to be given one beautifully deserved flogging with the NERF STICK!!!

W00t W00t.

But dont take my word for it,

<a href='http://www.dayofdefeat.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3055&perpage=15&pagenumber=3' target='_blank'>http://www.dayofdefeat.net/forums/showthre...15&pagenumber=3</a>

Halfway down the page of 1.1 changes - the bolt action rifles are given a standing accuracy nerf - no more corner strafing whoring. This may herald the return of many a disgruntled DoD fan tired of being whored from extremely mobile, extremely powerful and extremely accurate rifle biznitches.

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  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    Am I the only one that never played DOD?
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Why oh why was I thinking this had to do with congress and new laws?
  • DeronokDeronok Join Date: 2003-03-17 Member: 14613Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Aug 29 2003, 09:53 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Aug 29 2003, 09:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Am I the only one that never played DOD? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I quit DoD by the time it was v1, and heard v1 was.... bleh.
  • DubbilexDubbilex Chump Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9799Members
    Version 1.0 is certainly not <i>blegh</i> - the recent influx of lame players is <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    I miss 1.3b. Anything after that was definitely mucho blegh.
  • DeronokDeronok Join Date: 2003-03-17 Member: 14613Members
    Meh When I want a WWII game I just play Wolfenstein Enemy Territory or BF1942 <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Deronok+Aug 29 2003, 11:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Deronok @ Aug 29 2003, 11:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Meh When I want a WWII game I just play BF1942 <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Battlefield sucks for Firefights, it's Vehicle oriented, which is good but it's TOO Vehicle oriented.

    But great, they're going to ruin the Bolt Action Rifles again... 1.3 had the best Sniper System, and Unscoped sniping was possible, and it took skill. Now.. because of the little babies that whine aobut it, there's no Unscoped Sniping.
  • GrimmGrimm Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15448Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->MrMojo Posted on Aug 29 2003, 07:53 AM
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    Am I the only one that never played DOD? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I havn't. Well, technically I have, I played it for about ten minutes and decided it wasn't for me. I was lamed by campers so fast I lost interest.

    By the way, Liku, you're sig and avatar are the Frailart logos now, might wanna fix that.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Liku+Aug 29 2003, 04:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Aug 29 2003, 04:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Deronok+Aug 29 2003, 11:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Deronok @ Aug 29 2003, 11:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Meh When I want a WWII game I just play BF1942 <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Battlefield sucks for Firefights, it's Vehicle oriented, which is good but it's TOO Vehicle oriented.

    But great, they're going to ruin the Bolt Action Rifles again... 1.3 had the best Sniper System, and Unscoped sniping was possible, and it took skill. Now.. because of the little babies that whine aobut it, there's no Unscoped Sniping. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said. It used to be that all you needed was great aim, and you could snipe with the best of them. Now it's just running around with the sniper rifle, and now they're going to nerf scopless' even more.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Grimm+Aug 29 2003, 04:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Grimm @ Aug 29 2003, 04:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> By the way, Liku, you're sig and avatar are the Frailart logos now, might wanna fix that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, I know. FrailArt's being a douche bag so I can't use that, I'm waiting on another IMG host.

    Thank you TychoCelchuuu! Finally someone agrees! Anyway, why are there 3 U's in your name?
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    I've loved every DoD versions... the changes made are actually pretty minimal. I've been able to adapt well, and from .2XXb to 308b to 1.0 it's been a great game.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--404NotFound+Aug 29 2003, 08:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Aug 29 2003, 08:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've loved every DoD versions... the changes made are actually pretty minimal. I've been able to adapt well, and from .2XXb to 308b to 1.0 it's been a great game. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Aye, that too, except 1.0 changed a few things I didn't want changed, like the sniper scope and grenades, although grenades weren't changed much. Although 1.0 looks a lot better, especially with the models.
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    I used to hate dod 1.0, but now that my new computer can handle everything turned to high and still run at 100 FPS, I'm loving this game. The particle system is fantastic and I don't mind the bolt action rifles at all. It still takes a fair amount of skill to do. All this reminds me of the big brouhaha over Marine bunnyhopping, people that take skill to the max utilize it, and people who aren't quite as good whine about it.

    You just need to have good reaction time and decent eyes, as well as a good snap aim. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Meh, anyway, I've been playing NS too much to care a <i>ton</i> about this development.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    nah, duff. it's just that, if you have good reflexes and a bolt action rifle in DoD you can own anybody. this made me quit for a while (until next patch) because it destroys any want to use the other weapons.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    That's all you really need in DoD, Aim and Reflects, if you play Sniper you should have what I like to call "The Hawk Eye." Just get a Thompson and you can take Grenediers out easily.
  • Marine0IMarine0I Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8639Members, Constellation
    Not really liku. Im good with that kar, pretty freakin good. And that isnt saying much, heaps of people are good with it. And if you have ever met an above average player with the kar - ur tommy wont save you. Tommys only save you against noobs who are put off by that fact that you are running and spraying lead.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Aug 29 2003, 11:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Aug 29 2003, 11:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why oh why was I thinking this had to do with congress and new laws? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You weren't the only one <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--Duff-Man+Aug 29 2003, 08:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Duff-Man @ Aug 29 2003, 08:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All this reminds me of the big brouhaha over Marine bunnyhopping, people that take skill to the max utilize it, and people who aren't quite as good whine about it.
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The difference is you can use a simple script to bunnyhop. But C-D or VAC will catch your KAR 'script'.

    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    (ps: you are a nub)
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    I never thought it was a problem....i loved the kar98...alot...
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Marine01+Aug 29 2003, 05:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marine01 @ Aug 29 2003, 05:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Not really liku. Im good with that kar, pretty freakin good. And that isnt saying much, heaps of people are good with it. And if you have ever met an above average player with the kar - ur tommy wont save you. Tommys only save you against noobs who are put off by that fact that you are running and spraying lead. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Tommy's are the most used weapon now. They're the easiest weapon to use.
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Aug 29 2003, 10:53 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Aug 29 2003, 10:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Am I the only one that never played DOD? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    yes, now go dl and play

    so now there nerfing the kar98? good, becuase the kar98 is pretty much the DoD awp but w/o the scope
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    edited August 2003
    i honestly have tons of fun using the bar fullauto without the bipod. if i'm in the groove, i can concentrate fire really well and usually put away stupid sniping kar idiots. but... if not, it's just way too hard to take out stupid **** kar snipers.

    edit: the ones that aren't using scopes.
  • DubbilexDubbilex Chump Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9799Members
    <i>Bi...pod</i>? There are so many 1.0 features that I still have no clue how to use <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Dubbilex+Aug 30 2003, 03:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dubbilex @ Aug 30 2003, 03:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <i>Bi...pod</i>? There are so many 1.0 features that I still have no clue how to use <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, the BAR now has a Colapsably Bi-Pod.
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    Meh I still don't see the big deal.

    The bolt actions <i>are</i> similar to the AWP that they are deadly in a skilled person's hands. However, there are counters to said guns. They're not half as good in close combat as a BAR or Tommy. I don't think they're overpowered at all, it just takes a little thinking and a grenade or two to get by a bolt action rifle user.
  • Marine0IMarine0I Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8639Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Duff-Man+Aug 30 2003, 08:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Duff-Man @ Aug 30 2003, 08:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Meh I still don't see the big deal.

    The bolt actions <i>are</i> similar to the AWP that they are deadly in a skilled person's hands. However, there are counters to said guns. They're not half as good in close combat as a BAR or Tommy. I don't think they're overpowered at all, it just takes a little thinking and a grenade or two to get by a bolt action rifle user. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not half as good in CQC as a tommy? Really? How can you beat one click kills with perfect accuracy? You come up against a decent kar user and at long range you have no chance, at medium you still get pwned, and short u still get taken. At the end of the day all the best dod players use the kar when they go axis because its the best weapon in almost any situation, save that when there are multiple opponents on an exposed field, and with their skills they are very rarely if ever in that situation.
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