Using Netgear Router?

MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
<div class="IPBDescription">Upgrade your firmware, spammaar</div> <a href='http://www.globetechnology.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20030826.gtnetgearaug26/BNStory/Technology/' target='_blank'>http://www.globetechnology.com/servlet/sto...ory/Technology/</a>

Network hardware maker Netgear has warned its customers of a flaw in some of its router products that could set off an "accidental" denial-of-service attack.

Netgear router models RP614, RP614v2, DG814, MR814 and HR314 are affected by the flaw. Anyone using one of these models should upgrade their firmware with an appropriate patch from the Netgear Web site.

<a href='http://www.netgear.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.netgear.com/</a>

Comments

  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    What exactly are denial of service attacks?

    Ive heard of them before on a few news sites...
  • p4Samwisep4Samwise Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10831Members
    Hammer a server so hard that it can't handle requests from others, hence "deny"ing them "service".
  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    otherwise known as posting a link on slashdot . . .
  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    edited August 2003
    D.o.S attacks are when you send too much data or ask for too much data from a server, and it chokes. DistributedDOS is when a few thousand PC's try to view a website at the same time, and without even doing anything strenuous, they add up to choke the website.

    a huge news website called slashdot does this every day by posting links to small servers <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    DDOS are also often caused by viruses; imagine if the blaster worm didnt shut down your comptuer but instead said that at a certain time on a certain day you would open up www.microsoft.com in your browser fifteen times per minute. 15x100,000,000 computers is enough to kill off MS's website for the day (and this makes the virus writer very very happy i assume).

    BACK ON TOPIC, i read somewhere that netgear routers all accidentally are supposed to view the university of wisconsin madison's time server to synchronize their internal clocks. well, netgear sold a few million of these poorly programmed routers, and UWM is getting rather upset at being pounded with requests.
  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
    This is why Im glad I have a Netgear router <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Now how come there aren't 32153125377312476 bajillion posts here about how negligent Netgear, how they code via obfuscation which leads to errors, how if this was open source it could never have happened, how they are out to ruin all our lives, and everything else people say when Microsoft has a bug?

    /me shakes fist at hippycrites!
  • MorrikMorrik Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8247Awaiting Authorization
    Oh great, maybe that's why my connection was going really slow.

    /me chucks his NetGear router out the window.
  • GreyPawsGreyPaws Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8659Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Aug 27 2003, 06:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Aug 27 2003, 06:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Now how come there aren't 32153125377312476 bajillion posts here about how negligent Netgear, how they code via obfuscation which leads to errors, how if this was open source it could never have happened, how they are out to ruin all our lives, and everything else people say when Microsoft has a bug?

    /me shakes fist at hippycrites! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Cuase netgear is a cheap pice of crap and no one cares. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    You cant expect a company that cares about the bottom dollar to not cut corners. And I've always said, the only reason people badmouth MS is cause of the $$ that company makes.
  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    MonsE seems to be up to some ole' fashion hippy-diggin'!

    [DAVIDATTENBOROUGH]
    Observe this rare phenomenon: If there's no mention of general Hippyness MonsE will delude himself into thinking that there are, in fact, Hippies about. He will then get angry at these illusionary free thinkers in order to demonstrate his dominance over the herd.
    [/DAVIDATTENBOROUGH]

    --Scythe--
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Zel+Aug 27 2003, 06:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zel @ Aug 27 2003, 06:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> D.o.S attacks are when you send too much data or ask for too much data from a server, and it chokes.  DistributedDOS is when a few thousand PC's try to view a website at the same time, and without even doing anything strenuous, they add up to choke the website.

    a huge news website called slashdot does this every day by posting links to small servers <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    DDOS are also often caused by viruses; imagine if the blaster worm didnt shut down your comptuer but instead said that at a certain time on a certain day you would open up www.microsoft.com in your browser fifteen times per minute.  15x100,000,000 computers is enough to kill off MS's website for the day (and this makes the virus writer very very happy i assume).

    BACK ON TOPIC, i read somewhere that netgear routers all accidentally are supposed to view the university of wisconsin madison's time server to synchronize their internal clocks.  well, netgear sold a few million of these poorly programmed routers, and UWM is getting rather upset at being pounded with requests. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, this is wrong. What most DDoS virii do is ping a server thousands of time using the maximum available packet size and fragment it. This hurts a server more than requesting data tons of times.

    [EDIT]
    Also, script kiddies use this themselves. It's not limited to virii. Sending thousands of fragmented packets at maximum byte size is the standard for DoS and DDoS attacks.
  • ScinetScinet Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12489Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Aug 27 2003, 06:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Aug 27 2003, 06:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Now how come there aren't 32153125377312476 bajillion posts here about how negligent Netgear, how they code via obfuscation which leads to errors, how if this was open source it could never have happened, how they are out to ruin all our lives, and everything else people say when Microsoft has a bug?
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    For some reason, I find the idea of open source hardware hilarious.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Scinet+Aug 28 2003, 07:16 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Scinet @ Aug 28 2003, 07:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Aug 27 2003, 06:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Aug 27 2003, 06:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Now how come there aren't 32153125377312476 bajillion posts here about how negligent Netgear, how they code via obfuscation which leads to errors, how if this was open source it could never have happened, how they are out to ruin all our lives, and everything else people say when Microsoft has a bug?
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    For some reason, I find the idea of open source hardware hilarious. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think he meant the firmware. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Yes, I meant firmware. But it would be funny to see some guys all trying to work on the same circuit board:

    Geek1 PM's: 'Ok, the FedEx guy just got here, so I have the secondary bus checked out of source control'
    Geek2 PM's: 'darnit, I found a short-circuit in someone's northbridge. Gonna BLOG the shizzle out this clown'
    Geek3 PM's: 'Ok, tonight's build of the processor is available for pickup for anyone that wants to drive over here. I'll mirror it in my neighbors house too'

    XD
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