The Difference Of The Human Race
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<div class="IPBDescription">Don't Read if You Can't get hurt a bit.</div> Before I put the idea for this discussion out, I want to put a few guidelines in.
First- no racistness. PERIOD. I mean, no calling of the n-word, no kkk comments, basically, no racial insulting.
Second- Many views shown here will seem like the bashing of a type of race, but they aren't. Its just to analyze the differences, and see what you think about them.
Third- We know there are exceptions to every race. Its just how it is. If your offended, your probably an exception, or the person is wrong about his observation.
Fourth- and this is personal to me- Don't think I'm racist at all, please. This whole thread I want to base off of people kindly observing and analyzing the average personality types of each race. Don't get away from the subject either, if you want to, then start your own.
And now, on to my little observations.
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Is it me, or is it that every race is drastically different from one another? They all seem to have VERY different priorities, mind sets, and temper levels. I don't think any one race has any advantage, I just think that its a bit odd, how were all different. This is how I see things:
Caucasion(whites): We(because I'm white, myself) tend to put many of our words higher than our actions. Honor is very important to us, and our pride tends to be WAY too high, but at the same time, we also seem to be more prone to cowardice than any of the other races.
African American/African(blacks): They tend to be above many of the other races in both mind and body, but at the same time, seem to be very close-minded towards a lot of things, and take offense to many things they shouldn't, by jumping to conclusions. Its also been noticed that while the younger generation tend to be loud and stupid, once they get older, they tend to be some of the wisest in the world.
Hispanics(mexicans, spanish, and the such): They tend to hold pride above everything else, with honor pretty low. Whenever threatened, they are very willing to fight, but if they lose the fight, they almost always come back later with a lot more friends. Family also tends to be VERY important to them, most of them willing to do anything for them. They also tend to have a much higher tolerance for work, and almost never complain, and if they do, they usually have a good reason.
Middle-Eastern(arabs): Tend to hold honor and religion very highly, and tend to go by the rules a lot. While their bodies may not be as in shape as many other races(usually), they also tend to be much smarter, and willing to study for a long time, as well as being naturally intelligent.
Asian(chinese, japanese, korean, the such): Tend to hold honor the highest, and will train more dilligently in anything physical than many of the other races. Also, they tend to be naturally more handsome/beautiful, as well very fast. Family and Honor are high on the podium for them, and they tend to be very good with tools.
Side note: Is it me, or is the human race here balanced like in a freakin RTS? oi...well, discuss, please. And don't flame me, none of this was meant to be racist at all.
First- no racistness. PERIOD. I mean, no calling of the n-word, no kkk comments, basically, no racial insulting.
Second- Many views shown here will seem like the bashing of a type of race, but they aren't. Its just to analyze the differences, and see what you think about them.
Third- We know there are exceptions to every race. Its just how it is. If your offended, your probably an exception, or the person is wrong about his observation.
Fourth- and this is personal to me- Don't think I'm racist at all, please. This whole thread I want to base off of people kindly observing and analyzing the average personality types of each race. Don't get away from the subject either, if you want to, then start your own.
And now, on to my little observations.
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Is it me, or is it that every race is drastically different from one another? They all seem to have VERY different priorities, mind sets, and temper levels. I don't think any one race has any advantage, I just think that its a bit odd, how were all different. This is how I see things:
Caucasion(whites): We(because I'm white, myself) tend to put many of our words higher than our actions. Honor is very important to us, and our pride tends to be WAY too high, but at the same time, we also seem to be more prone to cowardice than any of the other races.
African American/African(blacks): They tend to be above many of the other races in both mind and body, but at the same time, seem to be very close-minded towards a lot of things, and take offense to many things they shouldn't, by jumping to conclusions. Its also been noticed that while the younger generation tend to be loud and stupid, once they get older, they tend to be some of the wisest in the world.
Hispanics(mexicans, spanish, and the such): They tend to hold pride above everything else, with honor pretty low. Whenever threatened, they are very willing to fight, but if they lose the fight, they almost always come back later with a lot more friends. Family also tends to be VERY important to them, most of them willing to do anything for them. They also tend to have a much higher tolerance for work, and almost never complain, and if they do, they usually have a good reason.
Middle-Eastern(arabs): Tend to hold honor and religion very highly, and tend to go by the rules a lot. While their bodies may not be as in shape as many other races(usually), they also tend to be much smarter, and willing to study for a long time, as well as being naturally intelligent.
Asian(chinese, japanese, korean, the such): Tend to hold honor the highest, and will train more dilligently in anything physical than many of the other races. Also, they tend to be naturally more handsome/beautiful, as well very fast. Family and Honor are high on the podium for them, and they tend to be very good with tools.
Side note: Is it me, or is the human race here balanced like in a freakin RTS? oi...well, discuss, please. And don't flame me, none of this was meant to be racist at all.
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the truth is, the people you grow up around teach you, either subconsciously or directly, who you are. from there, you go out and make your own life.
i grew up in a sheltered family, raised by old-fashioned third-world parents, with confucianist-asian ideals. needless to say, it took a while for me to break free. but i did so. it just happens that way.
my point is that it's simply what you learn while growing up that's etched in your mind: nobody's telling the arab kids not to blow themselves up, so they don't grow out of it. there aren't any public service announcements or billboards telling the kids in the ghettos why <i>not</i> to be gangster. if you don't have any help with that and can't think for yourself, you can put SURVIVAL, or EDUCATION pretty low on the priority list, for instance.
we should all be happy to have been told right from wrong, in the sense that right and wrong are GOOD CHOICE and STUPID CHOICE, respectively.
edit: i can't help but be direct with this, there's no other way.
take this, for example:
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Caucasion(whites): We(because I'm white, myself) tend to put many of our words higher than our actions. Honor is very important to us, and our pride tends to be WAY too high, but at the same time, we also seem to be more prone to cowardice than any of the other races.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i think you're overanalyzing and overstereotyping (if that's a word. if not, whatever the f*ck). these things aren't TYPICAL... they're <i>noticeable</i>. that's all. it's just that simple.
edit2: [sigh].. i still can't help but think this'll be taken the wrong way. i'm not calling you shallow, or stupid, or racist. it's not your fault that nobody notices or really gives a sh*t about the smart black kid that doesn't play basketball. nobody could care less what he's doing, because it's not provoking or anything. but when there are obnoxious f*ckers spouting their ebonics as loud as they can, swearing for effect, and acting out for whatever reason, it lasts longer in your head. that's all.
you know what else? what really sticks in my head? out here in california, i've heard people called g@y, f@ggots, qu33rs, fl@mers, and the like, more than anyplace else. it's really unfortunate. scratch that, it's f*cking shameful. another facet of things being noticeable is that people PERPETUATE IT.
"it's that simple."
there really isn't much left to say!!!
edit: argh.. maybe not. dubbilex has been in here for like 12 minutes. i'm a horrible last word.
I believe that it's not precisely a genetic difference.
More specifically, I truly think that this is a question of the famous <i>Nature versus Nurture</i>. Throughout history (more in the past than now), each separate region of the world was separate from the rest. For example - Japan was an isolated island nation who strayed away from contact with Europe. Africa has always been the shining example of what is to come. Since life has been there the longest, Africa sees many societal disasters before other societies. This often prophesizes events to happen in younger nations. And example are the arabs - throughout the middle ages, the arabs were always more advanced that the kingdoms in Europe. More great nations have come from Africa than anywhere else.
What these points seek to illustrate is the fact that different folks are raised differently. Whites, growing up in complete control have grown complacent as a race. Most whites are brought up with the whole idea of "Being whatever you want to be", "doing what you want to do", etc etc. This is in star contrast to the ways that say...Africans were brought about as a society. Africans in the past have been vastly religious, respectful servile folk. As more and more black families are created, I believe some of this vestigal ancestry remains. As a race nowadays, it is well-known that many blacks are respectful, powerful people. This directly reflects their far past as a race.
Whites, as mentioned above, have never been the "punching bag" for anybody but themselves. Any fights that whites have been involved in were always caucasian-perpetuated. Whites had free reign throughout much or western Europe during the middle ages - their very luck had placed them on a mostly-uninhabited territory where their mind was the limit. This boundless freedom that they must have felt - after all they had all the land they ever would need and no competitors - has surely worked its way into traditional white familial behavior. This aforementioned statement alone already reeks of the white societal mentality.
As was demonstrated above, the way a society had formed from its conception is a very relevant part of racial behavior today. This logic can be used for any civilization or race, and can be backed up by much proof. It's simple weak human nature - we learn from our past; we are <i>enthralled</i> by it; we are ultimately doomed to repeat it. This repetition manifests itself in the racial stereotypes that one can possibly see today. These modern things that divide us are nothing more than the results of physical 'divisions' (in the form of mountains, oceans, climates etc) that were in place during humanity's formulative years.
<i>Each man ultimately adapts to his unique environment.</i>
Here's a boggler - if all humanity had grown together on a single continent, would there be any racial separation at all? Would the many centuries of inbreeding have erased the infinite diversity of the world? Are race and color just irrelevant body traits - nothing else? And most importantly, would we see these stereotypes today at all, or would humanity have merged so greatly that a single giant society would have been birthed, <i>completely different from anything seen on the planet today</i>?
<i>*phew*</i>
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everything you said, dubbil, pretty much, was what i said, although elaborated upon.
but that last part was exactly what i needed. bring back pangaea!!
You are describing CULTURAL differences, not racial differences. Racial differences exsist, but they do NOT effect the mind, only the body.
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I should note that certain culture is prevelant among certain races. Thats how cultural sterotypes are attributed to race.
Explain please <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Dubbilex Posted on Aug 24 2003+ 10:40 PM --></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dubbilex Posted on Aug 24 2003 @ 10:40 PM )</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Here's a boggler - if all humanity had grown together on a single continent, would there be any racial separation at all? Would the many centuries of inbreeding have erased the infinite diversity of the world? Are race and color just irrelevant body traits - nothing else? And most importantly, would we see these stereotypes today at all, or would humanity have merged so greatly that a single giant society would have been birthed, completely different from anything seen on the planet today?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, I really think it depends on how big the continent is, like if it spans over the northern and southern hemisphere there will be some racial differences. But I understand if we would all just freaking get along, then there wouldn't be this seperation we see today from our culutral and physical traits. If we could all just interracially marry and form one race, yay, our world we be so much nicer to each other. But I guess things have to be solved the harder way.
Also, I think minorities born in a majority country have it tougher, just my opinion...
'asians cant handle alchohol' is a pretty well know one.
my flatmate akio gets wasted pretty easily, so i guess i can say that with at least some small level of authority.
but these physiological differences arent really anything important, just how evolution has effected humans living in different areas.
talking about cultures is somthing i dont think you can link to race in such a way.
its maybe just part of the human desire to group things into catagories, but such statements as 'white people hold honour highly' or whatever it was you said are far too general. mindset is a different from person to person and cannot be attributed solely to race or even culture.
the way you think is effected by race only because of how others treat you, and hence how you see the world.
In this instance, the generalizations will have to suffice.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->talking about cultures is somthing I dont think you can link to race in such a way.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I believe that one can. The discussion of geological boundaries have kept like peoples (races, if you will) situated together until the world had become interconnected. For example - there were <i>quite few</i> Asians in Western Europe during medieval times. This is simply because they were held back from spreading out by such things as the Sahara desert and the Himalayas. This is just a single example - it happened all over the world until travel exceeded mother nature. Because they were held back with like members of their races, these like people had in the past developed different cultural values from other groups of people in different parts of the world.
Conclusively, if race is (in some form of twisted mathematics) is equal to climate, and climate (by the same mathematics) is equal to culture, that one can conclude that race is equal to culture (or at least each is dependant on the other).
It is impossible - the word is <i>impossible</i> - to link specific behavioural characteristics to genealogy. An Asian child adopted into a white family will grow up with that familys standards and <i>nothing</i> else in mind.
The Nature vs. Nurture debate has left the idea of race-specific higher characteristics some fifty years ago - while it is definetely true that genetics influence our behaviour, they're just not differing widely enough between each 'race' to create truly 'typical' behavioural characteristics.
First- no racistness. PERIOD. I mean, no calling of the n-word, no kkk comments, basically, no racial insulting.
Second- Many views shown here will seem like the bashing of a type of race, but they aren't. Its just to analyze the differences, and see what you think about them.
Third- We know there are exceptions to every race. Its just how it is. If your offended, your probably an exception, or the person is wrong about his observation.
Fourth- and this is personal to me- Don't think I'm racist at all, please. This whole thread I want to base off of people kindly observing and analyzing the average personality types of each race. Don't get away from the subject either, if you want to, then start your own.
And now, on to my little observations.
----
Is it me, or is it that every race is drastically different from one another? They all seem to have VERY different priorities, mind sets, and temper levels. I don't think any one race has any advantage, I just think that its a bit odd, how were all different. This is how I see things:
Caucasion(whites): We(because I'm white, myself) tend to put many of our words higher than our actions. Honor is very important to us, and our pride tends to be WAY too high, but at the same time, we also seem to be more prone to cowardice than any of the other races.
African American/African(blacks): They tend to be above many of the other races in both mind and body, but at the same time, seem to be very close-minded towards a lot of things, and take offense to many things they shouldn't, by jumping to conclusions. Its also been noticed that while the younger generation tend to be loud and stupid, once they get older, they tend to be some of the wisest in the world.
Hispanics(mexicans, spanish, and the such): They tend to hold pride above everything else, with honor pretty low. Whenever threatened, they are very willing to fight, but if they lose the fight, they almost always come back later with a lot more friends. Family also tends to be VERY important to them, most of them willing to do anything for them. They also tend to have a much higher tolerance for work, and almost never complain, and if they do, they usually have a good reason.
Middle-Eastern(arabs): Tend to hold honor and religion very highly, and tend to go by the rules a lot. While their bodies may not be as in shape as many other races(usually), they also tend to be much smarter, and willing to study for a long time, as well as being naturally intelligent.
Asian(chinese, japanese, korean, the such): Tend to hold honor the highest, and will train more dilligently in anything physical than many of the other races. Also, they tend to be naturally more handsome/beautiful, as well very fast. Family and Honor are high on the podium for them, and they tend to be very good with tools.
Side note: Is it me, or is the human race here balanced like in a freakin RTS? oi...well, discuss, please. And don't flame me, none of this was meant to be racist at all. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
All stereotypes.
Certain cultures support certain Ideals, weve allways known this, but it has nothing to do with their race. a caucasian child growing up in africa would not only have a sunburn most of the time, but live just like africans do. Cultures are impacted by necessities. The agressive viking subculture was necessitated by the need for material wealth, and the corresponding lack therof. The other things you talked about seem to be rubbish to me. I mean, do you really belive that a white male holds honor at any level? Who was in charge of Enron? Worldcom? Arthur Andersen?...please...
They insist that stereotypes are wrong.
They also don't read every word someone puts out.
First off, you'll see I never said "ALWAYS" pertaining to much of anything. I said "tend to" a lot. I said "usually" a lot. I myself have seen people that aren't with the stereotypes plenty of times.
But that brings me something else- HOW the hell do stereotypes happen? Oh, oh yeah! Its because they "TEND TO" be that way, and they "USUALLY" are that way. That doesn't mean always, that doesn't mean for sure, that means "USUALLY and TEND TO!!!". SO PLEASE, READ what people put on here. If you don't, I honestly don't believe you belong in the discussion forums.
Now, on to the subject- I know plenty of exceptions to each race. I really do. But at the same time, I know 10x if not more, that go exactly to the stereotypes. If you guys noticed, I put down my race along with all the others. While I do agree I should have said "Cultural" and not "Racial" differences, you must remember that your culture really does depend on your race.
I have to admit- while I love every race on the planet, and have friends in all of them, I tend to have a bit of a prejudice against some people. Why? Because we ALL have prejudices. Its impossible not to. One of mine is against rich black girls. Why? Because many of the ones I've met are loud and obnoxious, and also tend to not think too much. I also have my best friend, Briggeone, who is a rich black girl, and she is very quiet and respectful. You always end up with a few unique ones out of the big group- thats how it is.((note- NONE of these comments were racial, and frankly, my prejudices are proved wrong very often. Do understand that I try to not have them exhist as much as possible, but alas, I am not that strong in my socialism to have them not be there at least once in a while, as ALL OF US ARE. If you say you have no prejudices- your pretty ignorant of yourself. Look deep down and you'll see.))
If anyone was offended by this, I yet again am sorry, I don't mean to offend, and I'll never hold anything against you whatsoever, no matter who you are, as long as you treat me nicely.
Heck, I should rightfully be astounded and disgusted by this topic. I am, after all, still disgusted at the things written in the <a href='http://www.tardblog.com' target='_blank'>Tard Blog</a>. However, I'm willing to leave my inhibitions at the door and safely, amorally pimp my postcount. isn't that everyone's dream, after all?
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They insist that stereotypes are wrong.
They also don't read every word someone puts out.
First off, you'll see I never said "ALWAYS" pertaining to much of anything. I said "tend to" a lot. I said "usually" a lot. I myself have seen people that aren't with the stereotypes plenty of times.
But that brings me something else- HOW the hell do stereotypes happen? Oh, oh yeah! Its because they "TEND TO" be that way, and they "USUALLY" are that way. That doesn't mean always, that doesn't mean for sure, that means "USUALLY and TEND TO!!!". SO PLEASE, READ what people put on here. If you don't, I honestly don't believe you belong in the discussion forums.
Now, on to the subject- I know plenty of exceptions to each race. I really do. But at the same time, I know 10x if not more, that go exactly to the stereotypes. If you guys noticed, I put down my race along with all the others. While I do agree I should have said "Cultural" and not "Racial" differences, you must remember that your culture really does depend on your race.
I have to admit- while I love every race on the planet, and have friends in all of them, I tend to have a bit of a prejudice against some people. Why? Because we ALL have prejudices. Its impossible not to. One of mine is against rich black girls. Why? Because many of the ones I've met are loud and obnoxious, and also tend to not think too much. I also have my best friend, Briggeone, who is a rich black girl, and she is very quiet and respectful. You always end up with a few unique ones out of the big group- thats how it is.((note- NONE of these comments were racial, and frankly, my prejudices are proved wrong very often. Do understand that I try to not have them exhist as much as possible, but alas, I am not that strong in my socialism to have them not be there at least once in a while, as ALL OF US ARE. If you say you have no prejudices- your pretty ignorant of yourself. Look deep down and you'll see.))
If anyone was offended by this, I yet again am sorry, I don't mean to offend, and I'll never hold anything against you whatsoever, no matter who you are, as long as you treat me nicely. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
He has a point. Stereotypes wouldn't excist if there wasn't a grain of truth in them
Dude you don't know anything man, we asians drink like hell, but the handling part, maybe so. My great uncle died from a black liver and my other uncle was so drunk he fell in a empty sewer hole (man hole) head first. I don't know about my other uncles, but yeah, alchohol runs through my family from my grandad, dad, and maybe mua.
Stereotyping
Steretyping means a fixed set of ideas, often exaggereated and distorted. It is a mental picture <b>which regards all members of</b> a group as being the same, allowing for little or no individuality or critical judment.
Example: "All Scots are stingy with money." "All pakis are cocky, stealers, and cheapass backstabbers."
And I agree with what you guys say, stereotypes must have a grain of truth to them. Like I know a lot of pakistanians or middle eastern people, who fit that description above, but I also knew some who were totally different.
I just think our past history has hurt us a lot in many ways, if we could only forgive and forget, our society would be so much better off.
Also, the media is an evil tool of cultural seperation. If you switch it to the news, would you see a black person and an asian person? Most likely not, but maybe here and there. Honestly, until the world understand each other better and communication and travel is easily accessible to everyone in the world, there will and probably be a lot of cultural and racial division. Even then there will still be a lot of that happenning. Scientifically and truthfully we are one race, but because some people can't get past the little differences, we are still "fighting." I just wish every country had equal amounts of every human country in the world in it.
Dude you don't know anything man, we asians drink like hell, but the handling part, maybe so. My great uncle died from a black liver and my other uncle was so drunk he fell in a empty sewer hole (man hole) head first. I don't know about my other uncles, but yeah, alchohol runs through my family from my grandad, dad, and maybe mua. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually, he's right. At least 50% of asians have trouble processing alchohol.
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Q. Why do so many Japanese people turn red when they drink alcohol?
A. More than 50% of Asians have a strong sensitivity to alcohol. What it all comes down to is an enzyme called acetaldehyde dehydrogenase, which is crucial for the breaking down of alcohol. Some people will tell you that many Asians lack the enzyme, but that’s not entirely true. The real problem is that they have a ‘defective’ copy of the gene that produces it, so their enzymes act extremely slowly.
Before it is acted upon by acetaldehyde dehydrogenase, alcohol is turned into a substance known as acetaldehyde. It is this substance (and not alcohol) that turns many Asians’ faces red. In people with the slow-acting enzyme, acetaldehyde is broken down at only about half the regular rate. Acetaldehyde also causes nausea, malaise, and headaches in many people. People with the slow-acting enzyme do not however, get drunk more quickly, because the alcohol itself not broken down any more slowly.
Acetaldehyde is also a probable reason for the relatively low alcoholism rates in Asia. Their strong reactions to it cause many people to stop drinking before they get too drunk.
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<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Taken from the <a href='http://www3.tky.3web.ne.jp/~edjacob/intro.htm' target='_blank'>Quirky Japan</a> page's Seldom Asked Questions (SAQ).</span>
African types run faster than european or asian types , as both the preys and predators run faster in Africa (evolutionary pressure is higher , and speed is a key element) , no wonder the Olympics 100m race podium usually has 3 people of the same continent on it...
Native Americans also have a better endurance and physical fitness (that's why they grow obese in the present american society , they're forming fat layers way too fast and don't spend them)
I agree that mental/psychological differences are stereotypes. Integrated black people have the same western mindset as white people. White people can adapt to foreign cultures as well.
Though few people accept being branded as racists , many of us are subconsciously racist. Children are usually racist and intolerant before they are placed in a multicultural environment (I was no exception)
People who hate the concept of "affirmative action" , tend to call it a discrimination and even accuse its supporters of being racist. This helps them compensate the damage of being called a racist.
Start discussing specific ethnicies if you wish, but give it a scope at which a differentiated discussion is possible.