Ns 2.0 Player Status Check

lazygamer

<div class="IPBDescription">3.5 weeks have passed, how are we doing?</div> So 3 and a half weeks have passed since 2.0's release. How is everyone doing?

Have the aliens and marines adapted to the new version yet, or are they still playing like they did 3 weeks ago? Perhaps they are playing different from 1.04, but not proper 2.0 style? Are the marines the only ones not playing 2.0 good enough yet, or do the aliens still have too much untapped tactical capability?

Monkeybonk

Marines are slowly adapting, LITERALLY one player at a time, because the reliance on a good comm is crippling for marines.

Asraniel

Well, on 2.01b servers everything seems fine and im happy and love NS

paranoid1

Alot more players are joining alien now, no-one seems to want to be a marine these days <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

The lack of a good comm the main reason.

I still find people playing with the 1.04 mindset which can be irritating

The game is much better now, faster paced and better games

give it another 2 months and the tide will turn and the games will get more even

RaVe

Marines are learning,nobody learned JP HMG rush in a day you know <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

As for me....Im starting to play marines a bit more now....but when I play an LAN I'm surely going aliens,just to show them who's boss <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

But then again there's 2.1 closing release <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Please let it release before the end of this month god <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

ViolenceJack

i think it was established along time ago that marines getting beat all the time didnt really have much to do with 2.0 been abit different. it is just simply unbalanced and thats a fact. we all know or should know that flayra himself has said its unbalanced due to last minute adjustments i beleive.

really, u must be pretty bored or somin to do a topic bringing this stuff up again.

if anything like JP HMG came up again in 2.0, basicly a way marines can win very easy and keep doing it. again it shows 2.0 would be very messed up.

although 2.1 is gonner come out and ppl are gonner have to change, its gonner hopefully be easier for marines but not too easy to the point the game flips and we start seeing them winning all the time.

MrKNifey

Marines cannot win so easily in 2.0, and that is the main reason why all the 'good' people join aliens, because they're afraid to lose. I join marines because it's just that much more satisfying when you win.

Can't wait for 2.1........

Scorpion571

I've noticed more players trying to join the alien team, and less joining the marine team. I've also noticed that the alien team wins around 70% of the games played, but with a good marine team/teamwork, the marines can destroy the aliens.

Asraniel

i for me join the marines now. I played nearly only aliens in 1.0. Why? it was much more fun to play as the looser team and win, AND to show the marines that the aliens were still good(i won nearly every game in 1.0x as alien). Now i play marines to show those aliens that the marines can beat them, if i can i take the command chair, because i think i know what im doing(im not the best but i understand NS good enough i think...) and its fun to win as a marine :-)

lazygamer

Definitly there is imbalance, but imbalance due to players can't be ignored. Remember all that stuff about "wait a few weeks and everything will be fine?" Well this is checking what has really happened. I seriously don't believe that there is tons of great comms around, and that marines are merely crippled by the aliens. I think there is imbalance AND I think there is trouble with the players.

MrKNifey

<!--QuoteBegin--lazygamer+Aug 24 2003, 12:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lazygamer @ Aug 24 2003, 12:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Definitly there is imbalance, but imbalance due to players can't be ignored. Remember all that stuff about "wait a few weeks and everything will be fine?" Well this is checking what has really happened. I seriously don't believe that there is tons of great comms around, and that marines are merely crippled by the aliens. I think there is imbalance AND I think there is trouble with the players. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
True. There is an imbalance in the players as well as with everything else. But, the root problem itself is the imbalance within 2.0, since even if both teams are even on terms of skill and intelligence, aliens still win regardless.

2.1.......mmmm....sexy.

PseudoKnight

Ironically, I'm seeing a steady increase in the percentage of alien wins with each week.

SoBe_Dragon

one thing I am still adapting to is no matter how good of a comm I am, if I dont have the perfect god-given marine team, we lose...

Catpoker

and skulk rushes really hurt now

n4s7y

2.0 is still unbalanced. However, I play solely on 2.01b servers, where gameplay is fairly balanced nowdays.

DieHard

eh there,

I think the res income is way to fast and stalemates are way too common. Commanding, you need to be johny on the spot with everything. This doesn't help the newbie commander trying to learn. I used to be able to help the commander as I played, but now with new maps and redesigns, it isn't easy. The game is almost too fast paced.

It seems upgraded armories are the thing for the in-experienced commander. Totally skipping the basic lvl1 upgrades. Once they drop 3-4 hmg/gl's the res pool is shot. I also think devour is a cool idea, but it is gimicky and doesn't belong. The whole stomp/devour thing is just rediculous. It kind of reminds me of the teleporters/grappling hook in TF/c. There was a reason why they were phased out. I believe devour either needs to be heavily modified, or give us maps were we can fly higher with jps.

Just my thoughts. I'm not complaining, I'm just frustrated with my teammates.

dh

ViolenceJack

one thing i dont like is fully upgraded aliens > fully upgraded Marines and u can get fully upgraded aliens alot quicker.

I just had a decent game on 2.0 there, marines were doing well apart from they were abit slow and teams werent exaclty fair (+2 ppl to aliens) although when the marines did go around in grp with there variety of equipment they could kill oni and stuff easy. we killed hive and stuff but then the oni thought it be nice and go redem instead of regen, that was probably the main thing that messed it all up for us cos they didnt fear of dieing so they hit more and didnt run out to the point where they would die. this is 2.0 so any marine devoured would be gone and no possible way of saving. due to the **** redem oni they just kept smashing and smashing us, when we tried to take a hive they would be constantly attacking when they redem they heal up for abit and use MC and shoot to the hive that was been assaulted there was no way of stoping them. they got all there hives and it was over, all alien crap went flying and marines just couldnt move. well they could move but no doupt they would have died.

redem should go, it is very very **** and very very sad. ppl say u get rid of redem oni quicker than regen but u dont really. with regen when he dies, he dies. he doesnt come back unless he has 100 res and if he dont have 100 res he is out of the game for abit, redem he just keeps comin and comin none stop.