Funkiest Looking Chopper Ever.

MoquiaoMoquiao Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16168Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">it really is.</div> hey well once again my life is **** up.. so i was just bouncing round the web trying to release stress and i came cross this

<a href='http://www.army-technology.com/projects/ka50/index.html' target='_blank'>Sexy chopper!</a>

and it made me smile.. it is so FUGLY but so cool at the same time..

<img src='http://www.army-technology.com/projects/ka50/images/Ka50_10.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

anyone else seen this?

crazy russians of course..

<img src='http://www.army-technology.com/projects/ka50/images/ka50_8.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
you can see why it is called the shark.. i mean it does look shark like...
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  • AngelusAngelus Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10810Members, Constellation
    wow,

    KA-50/52 Hokum, nice find...

    to me, thats the Russian equivalent of an AH-64 Apache.......

    Loving the amount of missiles/rockets its got mounted tho....

    (And no, i didnt have to look that up..... i like the Enemy Engaged games, says it all really)
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  • DreadDread Join Date: 2002-07-24 Member: 993Members
    I don't know anything about choppers really but I guess it has two rotors rotating in opposite directions so it doesn't need a back rotor to keep it steady. Coo' <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • AngelusAngelus Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10810Members, Constellation
    Yea, thats the basic way it works..... Makes it look real wierd tho,

    Also, it has ejector seats.. blows the top rotor off, then the bottom, then bang, up go the pilot and co-pilot..

    pretty cool if you ask me
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  • 343_guilty_spark343_guilty_spark Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17462Members
    edited August 2003
    Yes very Shark like.....it reminds me of that shark spieces that fly round with minguns, rockets and two propellers, oh wait no such thing, doesn't look like a shark, looks more like a hellycopter <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • MedHeadMedHead Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11115Members, Constellation
    I'd like to know why there was a problem with using the rear propeller instead of having two lumped together on the top. I mean, if it's not broken, don't fix it...
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  • KungFuSquirrelKungFuSquirrel Basher of Muttons Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Yeah, there's a bunch of dual-rotor russian designs, if I recall correctly. Pretty spiffy stuff, especially the eject mechanism.
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  • 343_guilty_spark343_guilty_spark Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17462Members
    If you ejected out of that surely you would get sliced to pieces.
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  • Dirty_Harry_PotterDirty_Harry_Potter Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9500Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Angelus+Aug 23 2003, 12:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Angelus @ Aug 23 2003, 12:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also, it has ejector seats.. blows the top rotor off, then the bottom, then bang, up go the pilot and co-pilot..

    pretty cool if you ask me <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Spark the Blades are Blowed off first nubcaek <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • WindelkronWindelkron Join Date: 2002-04-11 Member: 419Members
    I think the second rotor spins the other way, not sure why, I THINK it's to reduce noise, or make a smaller radar signature... uhh I dunno. Something.
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  • Dirty_Harry_PotterDirty_Harry_Potter Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9500Members
    its to ensure the chopper dont rotate "with" the rotorblade - thats why normal 1 rotored choppers got the Small Vertical Rotor

    if it has some extra advantages over 1 Rotored Choppers i do not know.
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  • RPG_JssmfulhudRPG_Jssmfulhud Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4006Members
    Yeah. Stupid people taht wander around a landed chopper don't get sliced by the rear propeller... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Anyway, that is correct. The rear rotor is used to maintain heading and eventually, to stop the chopper from starting to circle around its axis. The main rotor produces a force which pushes the chopper in the direction of the turning propeller. The pilots mainly use the rear propeller to change heading by pushing the left or right pedal with their legs, which in turn changes the back rotor's speed. And you can imagine the horror of the back rotor falling off (yes, it happened here...) but luckily, no one got hurt... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • 343_guilty_spark343_guilty_spark Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17462Members
    What if the propellers don't come off?
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  • RPG_JssmfulhudRPG_Jssmfulhud Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4006Members
    You mean the double rotors by the russian chopper, by catapulting?
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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited August 2003
    That's an interesting philosophical difference between Soviet (now Russian) and American helicopter designers. There are a number of Soviet-era designs that used counter-rotating rotors to do away with the rear rotor. Especially on naval helos where space is a premium. Also, the rear rotor is where most noise comes from in a helicopter - removing it lowers the sound signature, which gives you a bit of an advantage in surprise (key for an attack helo).

    Other approaches have been to use vectored exhaust. And in upcoming US designs like the 'stealthy' Commanche, they keep the rear rotor but redesigned it for low noise and high performance with composite materials, which theoretically gets rid of the complexity and lower manueverability of the counter-rotating blades and the high noise output of a regular rear rotor.

    That concludes MonsE's boring helicopter lecture for the day...
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  • Sir_RobinSir_Robin Join Date: 2003-05-26 Member: 16724Members
    Ive got a 1:72 scale model of a similar type, the kamov-ka 50 <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> (I think that <b>IS</b> the k50')

    Double propellars give more lift, wich means -> m0R3 W34p0n5!!!!!

    I love helicopters!! The way they move is so cool, makes me 1 wid the universe. The russians made some very strange and HUGE helicopters + some rather insane seaplanes.
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  • RPG_JssmfulhudRPG_Jssmfulhud Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4006Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Sir Robin+Aug 23 2003, 10:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sir Robin @ Aug 23 2003, 10:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Double propellars give more lift, wich means -> m0R3 W34p0n5!!!!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And gulp a hell of a lot of more gas... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    It looks cool.
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  • Sir_RobinSir_Robin Join Date: 2003-05-26 Member: 16724Members
    edited August 2003
    <a href='http://www.geocities.com/ipmsco/Kamov.htm' target='_blank'>1:72 scale model</a>

    Go to the <a href='http://www.vor.ru/science/madeinrus1_eng.html' target='_blank'>bottom</a> of this document, there's some info there
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  • kidakida Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
    That, the commanche, and apache, are the coolest helicopters I've seen. neato.
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  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    Whats wrong with them?
    The rather look sexay then funny.
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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited August 2003
    Heh heh - the usual feelings of Russian overcompensation due to feelings of inadequacy ("completely outclasses in accuracy ... the one being developed for the reconnaissance and ground-attack gunship COMANCHE "). They are like the original fanboys - impossible for them to like anything they didn't make. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    If you would like some less rabid and more factual info on the Hokum, here is a link. It's interesting that they decided to go with a single pilot rather than the typically more effective tandem pilot and gunner combination favored since the 1960's, especially considering that Russian avionics are often not as advanced (although this one uses French-made avionics in several variants).

    <a href='http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/ka-50.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/ka-50.htm</a>
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  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Angelus+Aug 23 2003, 05:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Angelus @ Aug 23 2003, 05:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yea, thats the basic way it works..... Makes it look real wierd tho,

    Also, it has ejector seats.. blows the top rotor off, then the bottom, then bang, up go the pilot and co-pilot..

    pretty cool if you ask me <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    up go the pilot and....

    "gary? GARY!!"

    "it didn't WORK!!!"

    "..."

    "..."

    "crap..!!"



    on a side note, yes, that is a fuggleness helicopter.
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  • AngelusAngelus Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10810Members, Constellation
    Atleast they've put ejection systems in, so they dont lose the pilots if the heli's go down, unlike the rest of the world, who would just as soon lose a pilot aswell as the helicopter....
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