Are Aliens The N00b Team?

lazygamerlazygamer Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 126Members
I was playing NS a couple days ago, and this guy who was playing marines was saying how aliens were a n00b team, simply because they relied on melee attacks, whereas the marines actually had to shoot and aim.

That logic sounded a little fuzzy to me. Although it's funny that he called me a n00b. Later on I asked how I could be a n00b, if I'm not asking questions like: "how do I evolve" and such. No response. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

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  • MrKNifeyMrKNifey Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17668Members
    Wow, what a strange person. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Seriously, though. Aliens require little to no thinking to win, because all you really need is one really good, smart person on there and it's in the bag. Marines need more stratigical thinking.
  • Frogg2Frogg2 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4867Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Mr.KNifey+Aug 12 2003, 10:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr.KNifey @ Aug 12 2003, 10:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Wow, what a strange person. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Seriously, though. Aliens require little to no thinking to win, because all you really need is one really good, smart person on there and it's in the bag. Marines need more stratigical thinking. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    marines can win with one really good, smart person.

    It just needs to be the comm ;o
  • SpazmaticSpazmatic Join Date: 2003-05-10 Member: 16184Members
    Aliens are the newbie team, imho, because I actually found aliens easier to learn. I still think it's probably easier to learn (pressures on 'rines is insane, whereas aliens have an easier time if one guy is messing up), and when I itnroduced people to NS, I introduce them to 'liens.

    However, is it a "nub" team because it's too easy? Nah. First, it requires a lot of self-discipline, since there's no comm to make you behave... If no one wants to waste their res on res towers, you lose. Second, melee attacks are difficult to execute, especially if the marines get hmgs or shotties. There are more reasons, but, no, it's not really any more "newbish" than 'rines.
  • kingmobkingmob Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3650Members, Constellation
    um...
    can't there be more than one smart person

    /me ponders if standards are to high
  • The_FinchThe_Finch Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8498Members
    Marines need a commander that knows his stuff and troops that work together. Aliens can do well with loose teamwork and one mistake isn't likely to cost them the game, where marine mistakes can be crippling.

    For actual combat, I'd say the aliens are harder. They might have melee attacks, but you need to close the range first. Aliens are also more dependent on ability combos like leap/bite, blink/slash and stomp/devour. With the longer weapon switch, it can be tough. Anyone who's ever played a FPS has played the marine grunt. The "you have to aim" arguement is a stupid one. Aliens have to aim too. And they have to get close to you. Every Skulk knows how hard it is to try to chompeh a bunny-hopping marine while trying not to get shot by his friends.
  • SpazmaticSpazmatic Join Date: 2003-05-10 Member: 16184Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->/me ponders if standards are to high <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No, they're not "to" high.
  • TaiDaisharTaiDaishar Join Date: 2003-08-11 Member: 19417Members
    Marines can't win with only one smart person that is comm... remember there are the Rambo'ing marines, those who will stop to do whatever they want EXCEPT of what the comm told them to.

    Aliens even without 1 smart person can win, average teamwork is usually less to no teamwork at all at both sides problem is that aliens can win without teamwork while marines without teamworks are like fish in a barrel.
  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    melee = noob
    is nonsense.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    dont you think there was a remote chance of him being sarcastic?
  • Minstrel_KnightMinstrel_Knight The truth and nothing but the truth... Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9562Banned
  • jabsjabs Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10773Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Mr.KNifey+Aug 12 2003, 10:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr.KNifey @ Aug 12 2003, 10:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Wow, what a strange person. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Seriously, though. Aliens require little to no thinking to win, because all you really need is one really good, smart person on there and it's in the bag. Marines need more stratigical thinking. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thats not true at all. NS depends solely on teamwork. UNless you are refering to a small server, one person cannot win the game for an entire team.
  • bongfarmerbongfarmer Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13119Members
    If you were fighting someone, what would you rather have, armour and a gun, or a sharp sword?

    yeah turret farming and being a ha/gl or hmgare a lot harder then trying to break the turret farm
  • MrKNifeyMrKNifey Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17668Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--bongfarmer+Aug 12 2003, 11:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (bongfarmer @ Aug 12 2003, 11:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you were fighting someone, what would you rather have, armour and a gun, or a sharp sword?

    yeah turret farming and being a ha/gl or hmgare a lot harder then trying to break the turret farm <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Are you CRAZY? I'd go for the sword any day. I'd be going around The Specialists style cutting people that have guns with a katana. I need no guns. My armory of fine blades will do.
  • bongfarmerbongfarmer Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13119Members
    I bet you'd rather to have a pistol than to be in the gunner position of a helicopter with a skilled pilot in it just because it b really cool if you'd brought it down
  • lazygamerlazygamer Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 126Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Are you CRAZY? I'd go for the sword any day. I'd be going around The Specialists style cutting people that have guns with a katana. I need no guns. My armory of fine blades will do.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Not if their 10 metres away from you. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->


    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> dont you think there was a remote chance of him being sarcastic?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nope, definitly not. He said a few more things too.
  • Big_Chief_Brown_BottomBig_Chief_Brown_Bottom Join Date: 2003-01-22 Member: 12584Members
    melee = noob? ever try to fight someone who had a gun and you with a knife? if the gunman wins is he leet and you're a noob? NO. if you win you're leet and he's a noob
  • KatsuroKatsuro Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4809Members
    Alien is the n00b team in one way because its the team that doesnt need teamwork (or at least not much). Therefore people who also play other mods *coughCounterSh*tcough* are probably more at home there where they can do whatever they want. With rines you have to have teamwork in the team, and youre depend on the comm (usually an idiot) to win.

    And melee is easier to use if you like to camp.
  • Mythr1lMythr1l Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12772Members
    in publics i suppose you could call aliens the 'n00b' team.... only because on aliens u just need 1 good player to go onos and the games won, on marines you need several people to work well together to win.
  • Cheez1Cheez1 Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12900Members
    So anyone who uses a knife in DoD, CS, or TS (katana <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->) is a n00b? Right...
  • ANeMANeM Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16267Members, Constellation
    I once ran into one of those types of people. Except he wasn't calling aliens n00b. Just people with skills <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
    No, really. The guy stood around in marine base asking for an hmg/jp for 10 minutes while I was out killing stuff with my basic equipment. Eventually I tell say "Shut up, stop whining and try killing something you damn n00b" Then he gets angry, and replies "WTH?! I'm not a n00b you damn n00b, shut the hell up you n00b.. now comm, gimmie an HMG/JP" The game ended 5 minutes later after I took down the hive with a couple other people.. Mr. JP/HMG never got his equipment (Which in funny because the server had an equipstore plugin that allows comms to drop jps/ha in the prototype lab and guns in the arms lab for Marines to +use and get as they please) and never got any kills.
    He left the next round saying he "wouldn't play on a server with a n00b like anem"
  • lazygamerlazygamer Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 126Members
    I actually said that in HLDM using the crowbar will get you a lower score. He said that this is different since alien melee and HLDM crowbar are totally different power levels. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • mojojojomojojojo Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2017Members
    I will say one thing, on the pubs I play on, Aliens have been getting really sloppy lately. No one going gorge and setting up res towers, not responding to alerts etc. I think Aliens are going to get totally owned when their teching speed is slowed down a bit to marine levels.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    Aliens the n00b team... Right.

    To be honest, this is total BS. Melee attacks being easier? Not requiring aim? Ok, while you need not aim quite so well, it still counts to be able to hit every bite. The real hardship of the Aliens is getting close enough to your enemy to do the balance. What good is having a weapon that needs little aim if you can't get near enough to use it? Being an alien needs stealth, speed and self-control. You need to know when is the good time to make your strike and if you do strike, your chances of winning and whether you need support.
  • sejsej Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12488Members
    There are many who have good aims and considering lack of recoil in ns in comparison to games like cs and dod, id consider marines easier to get good at. Beinga marine and killing skulks is easy very easy.

    However being a good skulk takes practice, there are very few skulks who can bhop down a corridor as a skulk at 170% speed in such a manner that not even the best aims can track them.

    Cough wltrs- cough. (There are many others)
  • Corporal_Hicks1Corporal_Hicks1 Join Date: 2003-05-27 Member: 16762Members
    edited August 2003
    Nah, the aliens are not a noob team. It all really depends on who's playing who. I've seen aliens pull off SWAT team tactics to crush the marines effortlessly and vice versa. If most of the Noobs wound up on your team, well then I guess you are screwed. lol
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