Dod Retail Problem

bMaN_oNe

<div class="IPBDescription">Any News on the fixing of it?</div> Hey, i have DoD retail, and i was wondering how the development of the fix for the bug that DoD retail has with NS 2.0 was going, as im desperate to play it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Cheers.

Thansal

there is no bug with NS and DoD retail that I know of

the onyl one that I know of is the one with DoD and servers not ussing the LATEST server side patch of HL

bMaN_oNe

Yes there is...This one is the one I'm Talking about:
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=26&t=40558&st=' target='_blank'>DoD Retail Bug Post</a>

Jabba_The_Hunt

thoses bugs certainly weren't around when i tested it with 1.0, give me a day and I might be able to test it for you, I'm kinda busy right now, PM if you don't get a response within a few days <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

bMaN_oNe

Ahh k...I think its a bug with NS 2.0, not entirely retail. Thanks.

Jabba_The_Hunt

Ok I've got it installed and it appears to work, but like you said not very well, the graphics "mirroring" seems to be when the graphics card/drivers stops reciving information to render, so it just renders what was there last. The console message I dont understand, but it seems to be something happening very often so probably fairly critical, I wouldn't advise playing NS on DoD retail.

bMaN_oNe

Hrmmm, well DoD Retail is the only way I can play it. I'll Just wait and see if a patch will come out, and Hopefully the next DoD patch will fix it also.

Thansal

hunt software stores for a 5-10 $ jewlcase of HL <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> (note only that but it will also fix the problem with connecting to most servers)

bMaN_oNe

Ok, but i shouldnt have to...I bought DoD Retail with the knowledge that all HL Mods were compatable with it. It's a DoD Retail Problem. And im not the only one. I can wait for it to be fixed. I aint gonna buy a copy of HL just to play NS...

bMaN_oNe

Please? Anything? It's just annoying thinking that I'm like one of 1 or 2 People in the world who has DoD retail and is experiencing this problem, as I wanna play it, but only have DoD Retail.

ch33z3d00dl3

<!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> - - - 'DoD' Gaah ! I wan't to play NS..

bMaN_oNe

What's wrong with DoD?

tw13ve

i get the crap problem too, on dod retail.

i hate it soo much.

ive talked to monsiuer evil (SP?) about this.

ive found the best way to fix it is just typing 'retry' in the console.

do that until it works, usually two retries does it.

bMaN_oNe

Hmmm that doesn't work, I retry twice and more but i still get a reliable channel overflow, and that ex_max error still floods the console. How you get it too work?

tw13ve

every now and then i get the reliable channel error, and ex_max error still comes up hundreds of times,
but you can still play fine.

that stuff doesnt bother me, only the mirroring stuff and really slow chat and really slow crosshairs etc.

i just retry until i can play.

bMaN_oNe

Man you lucky, i cant, it repeadetly crashes. I'll just wait i think. There has to be a fix for it.

ch33z3d00dl3

Mostly when i play.... everything gets mirrored and that console message repeating it selfs all the time..But when the mirror thing goes off.. everything works as normal , EXCEPT that i can't change weapon and i have no crosshair <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

tw13ve

yeah the mirroring eventually goes off.

try retrying!

Thansal

again, I will point out that CSR and DoDR seem to have some serious issues in their coding that cause some VERY wierd bugs.

These are PROBABLY b/c you are simply missing all of the SP stuff. In ripping this out I am willing to bet that they borked up something else.

Again, I suggest buying a jewl case of HL for playing Mods on, most of these problems are Valve problems that modders have a hard time actualy fixxing (specialy when they don't have a copy of DoDR or CSR (though CSR seems to be mostly fixed now))

so, yah for now try the work arounds and hope that in the next patch theyt adress these issues

Flayra

I don't think there's any way we can fix this ourselves, as it is likely a problem having to do with the fact that DOD retail uses a different version of the HL engine then the SDK does. I'm guessing you'll have to use HL or CS-retail instead.

bMaN_oNe

<!--QuoteBegin--Flayra+Aug 18 2003, 03:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flayra @ Aug 18 2003, 03:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't think there's any way we can fix this ourselves, as it is likely a problem having to do with the fact that DOD retail uses a different version of the HL engine then the SDK does. I'm guessing you'll have to use HL or CS-retail instead. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Noo Don't Say that. There has to be a way to make DoD Retail work with NS. Let's just wait and see what happens with the next DoD Retail Patch.

Thansal

thats the idea

there is nothing they (read NS team) can do about it. It is now in valve/DoD's hands.

Frizzled

if you can, just return DOD retail and pick-up basic HL ... the just download DOD and NS (both will then run perfectly).

of-course, you are going to have to negotiate with your software store (they love returned software), but if you tell them what you bought is "bugged" and that you simply want an exchange and not a refund, you should be able to pull it off.

good luck,
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