Jpeg pwnage

MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
<div class="IPBDescription">Err, ownage, i mean</div><a href="http://www.theregus.com/content/4/25658.html" target="_blank">You owe us a zillion dollars for those pr0n pics!</a>

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  • PlaguebearerPlaguebearer Join Date: 2002-03-21 Member: 338Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Didn't Cserve try something similar with .GIF files some time back?
  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin--Plaguebearer+July 18 2002,13:47--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Plaguebearer @ July 18 2002,13:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Didn't Cserve try something similar with .GIF files some time back?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah I rememember that.  But it was a complete faliure anyway, as I know this will turn into.  It's just idiotic.
  • Terawatt_99Terawatt_99 Join Date: 2002-02-09 Member: 188Members
    roflol <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo--> idiots...
  • FamFam Diaper-Wearing Dog On A Ball Join Date: 2002-02-17 Member: 222Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Good thing I save everything in PCX format! Ahahah!

    Dang.
  • Sgt_XSgt_X Join Date: 2002-03-01 Member: 261Members
    How do the expect to charger royalties for one of the most common picture formats on the net. every one uses jpegs. I end up saving most of my pics as jpg before uploading them, insanity. Well that's what you get when corparate ppl try to do anything high tech.
  • DruBoDruBo Back In Beige Join Date: 2002-02-06 Member: 172Members, NS1 Playtester
    Jpegs are a thing of the past. I use pngs anywhere I can, and if I can't, I use indexed gifs.
  • GobyWanGobyWan Join Date: 2002-02-22 Member: 234Members
    Jpegs are easy and fast, if not the best quality. There's no way these guys are going to track the use of the couple billion JPEG images floating around on the internet.
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    They can get royalties the same way the inventors of the MP3 format get royalties: charge companies that make software which allows the creation or rendering of a file. So, all the Internet browsers, Graphics apps like Photoshop, etc.



    <!--EDIT|MonsieurEvil|July 18 2002,16:38-->
  • XHydraliskXHydralisk Join Date: 2002-07-14 Member: 945Members
    there was a group claiming they invented the "8-(" smiley and wanted to charge people for using it.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    yeah monse, not many people realize that mp3 encoders aren't free, all those cd ripper proggies little hax0rs got to rip the latest britney spears albulm had to liscense the mp3 coded from that company with the F and the wierd spelling. Freuntenheimer or something like that :P Also all games using mp3's, such as Quake3 and GTA3.. hell almost everything...

    and yes i remember back when CompuServe was going to take all our GIF's away. heh. this will most likely end up the same thing I think. But then again the GIF thing was really before e-commerse and all the money making crap on the net, that's back when it was just to exchange pr0n errm i mean information... yeah.. yeah that's it...

    p.s. don't use jpeg for pr0n use mpeg! no lawsuits for you (cept from the pr0n company who's copyrights you are infringing)
  • TzarconTzarcon Join Date: 2002-02-28 Member: 259Members
    bah, who needs pr0n anyway?  <!--emo&;)--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'><!--endemo-->

    anyone trying to prevent usage of jpegs are useless idiots
  • Bacon_BitsBacon_Bits Join Date: 2002-02-05 Member: 167Members
    the charging for use of the frownie face was a joke done by www.despair.com  they made the joke since the frownie is thier oficial logo  it's a very silly company, just look at what they sell
  • DruBoDruBo Back In Beige Join Date: 2002-02-06 Member: 172Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+July 18 2002,23:02--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (DOOManiac @ July 18 2002,23:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->that company with the F and the wierd spelling. Freuntenheimer or something like that <!--emo&:p--><img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Fraunhofer.
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Oh ye of little faith:

    <a href="http://www.theregus.com/content/4/25713.html" target="_blank">ISO Withdraws Support for JPEG format</a>

    Be sure to read the whole thing, as there are points on both sides, and it's still up in the air. But it could easily amount to the death of open-source and freeware apps that create or render JPEGS until 2004. They will need to pay to play. So why a company like Adobe will just fork over the millions to use the JPEG standard, the guys making Opera or Mozilla will be up a creek.



    <!--EDIT|MonsieurEvil|July 23 2002,17:39-->
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Well, I guess this means people didn't read the article, or perhaps just didn't get it. So I will make it simple:

    ISO is the International Office of Standards. They decide what's what in the world of business practices - basically, they set the standards. They have said there is enough evidence in this case by Forgent Networks to declare JPEG something which is somebody's patented property, and can't be covered as a royalty-free standard anymore.

    So what does this mean?

    This gives the Forgent company (who wants to get money for licensing the ability to created JPEG files) a lot of credibility. If this happens and they win their patent suit, it means Forgent will charge each company that wants to make software which creates or displays JPEG files. Each one.

    Big deal, you say. Who cares if someone sticks it to Microsoft to get Internet Explorer legal, or Adobe to be able to legally create JPEG's in photoshop?

    Well, big companies like Adobe or Microsoft can easily afford to pay. Groups like the makers of Mozilla or Opera browsers, or most of the graphics apps in Linux, or anybody else working on a low budget (like the 4000 different multimedia projects at SourceForge) will no longer be able to make software that display JPEG's. That means, they will be useless to anyone, and will all go away forever.

    On the flipside, the patent (even if legal) is only until 2004. Which means that it may be tied up in court until it's too late and JPEG's become royalty free again. Still, if they win an injunction, a big company like Adobe settles, etc. then it won't matter, as 2 years will be too long for the likes of PaintShop Pro to be missing an entire massive aspect of multimedia.

    Now do you see?
  • humbabahumbaba That Exciting Tales From the Frontline Guy Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 86Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    One exclamation:

    Eeeeep!
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