Someone Stole My Gun!

Waremonger · August 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">An overlooked exploit....</div> This is the first time this has ever happened to me, but I'm sure it was possible in 1.04 as well... It's late in the game, I'm on marines, and we're getting owned. The map is ns_veil and me and another dude are standing on the platform at Marine Start. I have a LMG and he has a GL. We're both firing maniacally at the aliens rushing our base. Well, he runs out of ammo, turns to me and drops his weapon and welder on me and takes my LMG and pistol. I'm left with a empty GL and no way to defend myself, while he goes on shooting with my LMG and pistol.

I imagine this is going to have to be addressed somehow at some point.

And on a related note (that will probably end up in the bug forums), picking up a welder or mines (accidentally or on purpose) still automatically selects them. Makes for bad news in a firefight where a buddy goes down and drops a welder and you mistakenly pick it up and you're standing there holding a welder with 3 skulks chewing on your leg. The changelog says it was fixed, but it definitely wasn't. I've had it happen quite a few times over the last 3 days.

Cheez1 · August 2003

Weld the skulks mouths shut! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'>

Lt_Hendrickson · August 2003

I personly don't like auto pick up either. The 5000 billion times ive died picking up an hmg. then you die and your fried picks up the empty hmg then he dies ect all over and over with in seconds and a whole squads die cause the one hmger ran out of ammo.

Marik_Steele · August 2003

"Stealing" another person's weapon like this is not so much an exploit as it is being an absolute jerk. I can see why it's a problem, but if it ever happens again...

1. Use the fact that you're not the one firing to your advantage. Run. Let the fool get eaten first (they WILL go for the meatsack who's a threat first) and do what you can to get to the nearest base/outpost. Even if both of you get wiped out, that good (but empty) weapon is a few steps closer to base, so hopefully someone can pick it up.
2. If the jerk repeats it, try to (politely) point it out to an admin. They should take care of it however they see fit with their server's rules.

<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>[edit]Spelling. "Problum" was pretty 2nd-gradeish of me <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> [/edit]</span>

Kissamies · August 2003

The old suggestion that has been repeated many, many times: Make it so that you only pick up stuff if you are holding +use. Autoswitch is also evil and must die.

Clint · August 2003

I wouldn't call this an exploit.

If I recall correctly, this has something to do with a picking up a weapon automatically. As stated earlier.

Check for the command somewhere in your Config, and you should be fine from here on in.

I beleive, it is; hud_fastswitch 0/1... Although I could be wrong.

Sniper_Chance · August 2003

hud_fastswitch is for quickly switching to a weapon, rather than opening up the weapon category dropdown menu to select it.

ZiGGY · August 2003

why dont you just give him the items back?

Clint · August 2003

Oh, my bad then.

Thanks for the correction, $niper_Chance.

Rion · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZiGGY^ @ Aug 3 2003, 05:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> why dont you just give him the items back?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
that what I'd do <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

TheOne · August 2003

<span style='color:white'>Watch it.</span>

Spazmatic · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>its not an exploit its called stealing a n00bs gun. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

It's called being an arse.

Ollj · August 2003

i like gunstealing.

Trojan2 · August 2003

I have only had that happen once, unfortently for the theft it was my clans server.
About the only thing in most cases you can do is throw his gear back to him and cuss to yourself..

Zek · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheOne. @ Aug 3 2003, 06:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> rofl at the use of the word exploit ... its not an exploit its called stealing a n00bs gun.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Yeah, because only a n00b would be standing next to someone with a welder and an empty gun.

Um...

Waremonger · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZiGGY^ @ Aug 3 2003, 05:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> why dont you just give him the items back?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Well, now I feel stupid. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'>

Honestly, at the time I didn't think of it. We had two oni coming at us - one up each ladder, and for the first second I was a little perplexed until I figured out what he had done (I wasn't looking at him, but I was standing next to him). Next time I'll be sure to do that, heh. At the time I was just trying to time jumping over the edge of the platform when the onos came near me to prolong my death.

Next time I hear the click-click of empty heavy weapons, I'll make sure to move away from the person.

Jabba_The_Hunt · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZiGGY^ @ Aug 3 2003, 11:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> why dont you just give him the items back?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Oh I would love to see this happen, I can just imagine the marines passing the gren launcher back and forth.

Marine 1: "You have it"
Marine 2: "No way, you can have it!"
Marine 1: "nope, I insist you have it!"
Marine 2: "I dont want it, you have it!"
Marine 1: "No I really think you should have it."

meanwhile...

Onos walks up, eats one of them, and procedes to gore the other.

Clint · August 2003

Jabba The Hunt:

Yes sir, that would be quite the little peice of action now, wouldn't it?

Spazmatic · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I hear the click-click of empty heavy weapons</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Real men use knives.

tanathos · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spazmatic @ Aug 4 2003, 02:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I hear the click-click of empty heavy weapons</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Real men use knives.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Or fools <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/fade.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='fade.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'>

sTrYkEr · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> "Stealing" another person's weapon like this is not so much an exploit as it is being an absolute jerk. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

haha 2 funy <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'>

if your at the point where a mans that desperate for ammo that he steals your gun u might as well recycle ip <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

RaVe · August 2003

:/ you drop it back at him,you aren't the only one with autoswitch correct?

TheOne · August 2003

<span style='color:white'>That's strike two. If you have nothing nice to say, shut your pie hole.</span>

sk84zer0 · August 2003

I dont like the auto gun pick up neither. When on the marine side and we are about to rush a hive with HA i would prefer a pistol over a welder when i have a GL. And when i go out there with my pistol in hand shooting at the pesty skulks i pick up a welder and die. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Ollj · August 2003

Way better than hearing "how do i pick up weapons" all the time.

Tonzak · August 2003

A cl_autopickup (default 1) wouldn't lead to "how do i pick up weapons" and would let people who know what they're doing disable this if they choose. Not that I'm suggesting it or anything, because that's ** FORBIDDEN **. I need to play 2.0 more before I can realize if this idea is valid or not.

Zel · August 2003

the only problem with that tonzak is that it would be another client download patch, and i doubt that will happen before the next huge release.

MilkyP · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jabba The Hunt @ Aug 3 2003, 08:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Marine 1: "You have it"
Marine 2: "No way, you can have it!"
Marine 1: "nope, I insist you have it!"
Marine 2: "I dont want it, you have it!"
Marine 1: "No I really think you should have it."

meanwhile...

Onos walks up, eats one of them, and procedes to gore the other.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
somebody makes this into a flash movie now!

Iced_Eagle · August 2003

lol we invented a new version of medicine ball <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> hmm i actually never had that happen to me.. only when I walked over empty stuff and got mad <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'> but if you are near the armory quickly hit +use and it will go directly into the clip... otherwise throw it back in his face <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

MrKNifey · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Real men use knives</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Or fools <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

I'm both <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

SuB · August 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Waremonger @ Aug 3 2003, 05:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I have a LMG and he has a GL. We're both firing maniacally at the aliens rushing our base. Well, he runs out of ammo, turns to me and drops his weapon and welder on me and takes my LMG and pistol. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Hahahahah <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

For some reason I found this incredibly funny... shows quick thinking on his behalf.

I don't think it's too much of an issue... I'd kinda laugh if someone did this to me and commend them on thinking quickly... but then again it <i>would</i> probably be different if it did actually happen to me and I'd probably be **** off too.

Perhaps auto pickup could be an option, but I don't think it should be turned off by default... all the newbies have enough trouble figuring out they can't <i>buy</i> guns without having to explain how to pick them up as well.

Someone Stole My Gun!

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