Reloading

elmoelmo Join Date: 2003-07-25 Member: 18415Members
I just wanted to know wat evryone does when they run out of ammo. I find that if theres a good skulk on my heels and ive wasted a clip, the skullk just jumpbites me. Recently ive treid to combat this by switching to the pistol to jump the reload time but that runs out 5 times as fast and the knife being the next option doesnt help me.

On a side note, when defending the base is it better to use a pistol or an lmg?

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  • FCCFCC Join Date: 2003-07-16 Member: 18218Members
    When I am out of ammo for my primary weapon, I will switch to my secondary weapon (usually the pistol). If both weapons are out of ammo, then I will proceed to reloading my primary. A lot of people pull out their knife and start knifing, but that is because they are confident in their ability, unlike me. I would rather take the two to three seconds to reload (on my light machine gun) than swing widely trying to score a hit.

    When defending a base, the distance the enemy is attacking from has to be taken in to consideration. For example on the Eclipse Map, if a skulk decides to attack the marine start; they have to run down a long hallway to reach where I hope most commanders place their buildings. At such a distance, the pistol is the best choice; however, if the skulks are able to attack the marine start without having to enclose a large distance, than the light machine gun is the best choice. Generally, for long distance defending use the pistol, and for short distance defending use the light machine gun.
  • FlatlineUTDFlatlineUTD Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7695Members
    I usually use the Pistol as my primary weapon so I can get a few accurate shots in before they get in range to attack me. By the time they get close, I can spray with a full LMG clip or a shotgun.
  • Lt_HendricksonLt_Hendrickson Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14761Members
    When im out of ammo, i pull out my duke foot of doom and kick those skulks right smack in the face.
  • P-KhanP-Khan Join Date: 2003-05-27 Member: 16776Members
    Normally I use my LMG first until I waste my clip. Then I change to pistol. If the thing is still not dead, I relode my pistol (cause I think it reloads faster) and kill the beast. By then, if it's still alive, I <b>hope</b> it has low health.
    Or if I'm close to the base, I run away back to it, cause normally there's someone there, guarding it.
  • BizZy_9mm_MessiahBizZy_9mm_Messiah Old School Member Join Date: 2003-07-25 Member: 18411Members, Constellation
    edited July 2003
    Like my I use my LMG up first. Usually there is no pistol for me because I have pretty good aim. But if theres a pistol it usually finishes them off. The only times I find my self screwed is when I'm at a hive holdin off skulks with lvl 3 cara. When I run outta ammo I dont knife cuz I'm confident, I knife cuz I know they'll kill me anyways. 3 lvl 3 cara skulks chasing 1 marine lvl 1 weaps=gg <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DroopyDaDogDroopyDaDog Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17479Members
    Heh I try to reload at every oportunity, even if the skulks just popped out and jumped into a vent or something to hide for abit, if he jumps out in the reload a quick swap around cancles the reload (knife and old weapon in quick 2 key press with auto select on)

    Anyways, I almost always switch to my next weapon if i run out in the middle of close combat (ranged combat with lerks and fades, is situation dependant, if it's a lerk I tend to try and blow all 10 pistol bullets into him and reload for another rather than use the lmg, fades are just a mix of all) heh even a knife and timed ducking and jumping can work well... though you may want to try and turn and run like a girl in a department store sale for a reload of either gun if you're down to your knife, if you're running forward and dodging enough you may avoid the bite long enough to reload, and spin on him... but frankly i get more knife kills than i get that happening, and I dun get many knife kills <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Roger_DodgerRoger_Dodger Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14392Members
    Hahaha ur all a bunch of knife nubs, i use one clip of lmg, then 1 of pistol, then depending on the distance of the sucker to me, depends on whether i reload. Usually the skulk is pretty close so u go a single jump just before they bite and knife em. The skulk is usually on low health so one or two swipes usually has the maggots balls on the ground.

    I do the same thing if im against a fade if im in kamikaze mode otherwise i sidestep the bugger till i can reload lmg.

    The knife is fun, the idea of the game is to have fun so why not use it. U dont have to be stupid with using it all the time, but a nice knife every now and then usually gets em pretty peed off with u.

    - RD
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    Switch to pistol when your clip runs dry. Duh. That's standard operating procedure for ANY game which allows you to switch weapons during reload. I laugh every time I eat some poor newbie who didn't pull his pistol out and instead tried to wait for his gun to finish reloading...
  • Iced_EagleIced_Eagle Borg Engineer Join Date: 2003-03-02 Member: 14218Members
    1. LMG which sometimes scares em off anyways (more so than a pistol at times)
    2. When he charges only take shots you know you can hit him (don't be widly spraying.. waste ammo)
    3. If he is still alive don't bother to reload and break out the pistol
    4. try to shoot his **** down
    5. Knifeage (should get him in 1-2 hits anyways)
  • Trojan2Trojan2 Join Date: 2003-01-14 Member: 12290Members
    I use my pistol as a stand off weapon. At 20 damage a hit and with its perfact accuracy its good for either killing or softing up groups. I then switch to my LMG, With its high rate of fire and mid grade accuracy its a great mid to short range gun. I use it in turning fights and in short bursts (bursts dont make you more accurat but, when you shoot you get that flame ball and bursting allows you to reaquire your target).
    If there are skulks left I do one of two things, If there not too good and cant keep up with my jumping and strafing I reload. If they are skilled and I know I am dead I knife and go for a luck kill. (you luagh at it but i got 2 fade kills like that the other night <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
    I use the same tactics with the shoty. Only difference beiging you almost never run outa ammo with shoty. (if you find your self not being able to killanything short of an onos with 10 shoty rounds please, do your team a favor and dont pick up shoties)
    With Gernade launcher I cruse with my pistol out, for some reason I find it impossible for me to hit things dead on with GL (that or a vollenteer to be the squad welding biotch and the run like a little girl if i get attacked)
    With HMG its kinda a "duh" thing. With 150 rounds and magnum damage hellther is really no reason to USE anything else. My only sugestion is to reload smartly. The "beast" takes quite awhile to reload. If im with friends I all insist that we stager our reloading and call it out when we do.
  • blimpblimp Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14438Members, Constellation
    I use pistol as my primary weapon, at any distance I usually manage to fill one alien with the rounds I've got, or I manage to stop when he's dead and I put the rest in any remaining skulks. If they get to close I take out my LMG and spray that into them. Now, if they are still alive they are low on health, in any case really, so I take out my knife and jump sideways or whatever(Its in my fingers, can't really tell what it is), but it works like a charm and I get heaps of knifekills this way.
  • SpazmaticSpazmatic Join Date: 2003-05-10 Member: 16184Members
    The knife is actually a fairly versatile fall back weapon, especially if you already hit your target and can thus hope to take them down in one or two slashes. To become confident in your abilities with it, I suggest spending some time using just the knife (preferably on a pub where the hate is minimal) until you can rely on it in a real situation.

    That said, lmg or pistol is really dependent on the location... Long hallways are dominated by the pistol, whereas close quarters frag fests are better served with an lmg on the side (though shotties make everything sweeter!)
  • Ethan_McPhersonEthan_McPherson Join Date: 2003-07-28 Member: 18489Members
    One time, and this never worked again, when I ran out of ammo, I pressed foward+jump while pulling out my dagger and twisting, completely to the aliens surprise, and slashed it in the tail end. I should note the fact I was on stairs helped. I am trying to find a way to get this technique to work currently.
  • SpazmaticSpazmatic Join Date: 2003-05-10 Member: 16184Members
    When you do, we'll call you Neo.

    Seriously, twisting to do that while dodging them would be very hard. Far easier to jump over a land lubber skulk and knife them as you pass by, or crouch under a jumper... Sadly, you can only trick them so many times before they second guess you, but you do get a few slashes in, especially if you know their style.

    That said, knife fighting lerks is where the fun's at (in 1.04, anyways... I doubt lerks will stay in knife range in 2.0).
  • MastodonMastodon Old Fogie Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12052Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Spazmatic+Jul 28 2003, 01:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spazmatic @ Jul 28 2003, 01:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That said, knife fighting lerks is where the fun's at (in 1.04, anyways... I doubt lerks will stay in knife range in 2.0). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Aye...bloomin' parasites.
  • SpazmaticSpazmatic Join Date: 2003-05-10 Member: 16184Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Aye...bloomin' parasites. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Them aliens, they just don't play fair.
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    i use pistol as my primary weapon and LMG as secondary
  • briDgebriDge Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17583Members
    The order is pretty simple when fighting a skulk

    If at close range, fire all LMG rounds, then pistol, then knife.

    If at far range, first pistol, taking your time with accurate shots while the skulk closes distance, then whip out the lmg and if the skulk is still alive pull out the knife.


    I see lots of people reload one of their weapons if a clip from both doesn't kill the skulk. I personally have found this to be ineffective and 9 times out of 10 the marine gets killed before he finishes the reload. This is why I always go for the knife. Typically, if all my ammo is gone, the skulk is at least severely wounded. The knife has a higher ROF than skulk teeth and many claim it even has a longer range. In those aspects it is superior to the skulk bite.

    I have found that I win at least one third of the knife fights I get in with a wounded skulk. I prefer those odds to the 10% chance i get enough time to reload my LMG.
  • CaimanCaiman Join Date: 2003-06-01 Member: 16900Members
    I would always use my pistol first, but now it doesnt work if im lagging. Then i switch to lmg, and if he's still alive by then i'll be like "wow ur still alive" and then he'll eat me. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> j/k - i would jump around and reload my lmg.
  • SpazmaticSpazmatic Join Date: 2003-05-10 Member: 16184Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I prefer those odds to the 10% chance i get enough time to reload my LMG. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Reload if you have backup. If not, up to you, depending on your perceived chances of doding (obstacles like marine structures help).
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