Better Proc Or Graphics Card?

CrisqoCrisqo Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11625Members
Ok, I have money to upgrade something on my computer, it can be a geforce fx 5600 (256 mb version) or a better proc (by about 500 mhz). I don't know which one will give me the highest fps on higher detail settings. For refrence I have a 1 gig amd athlon proc and a geforce 4 mx 440.

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  • Night_ShadeNight_Shade Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14985Members, Constellation
    Unless you're doing uber physics calculations (hl2 anyone?) the better card will in theory boost performance more than the processor will.

    Having said that, its fairly dependent on your current config.
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    I'd recommend a graphics card for gaming. It can make a much larger difference than a CPU unless the CPU is a lot faster.
  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    yep, graphics card, although as night shade said you will probably have great graphics in hl2 but physics settings on low.
  • pielemuispielemuis Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 72Members, NS1 Playtester
    The graphics card will give you a nice performance boost (eventhough HL is rather CPU limited). The cheapest way to upgrade would be getting more RAM. More RAM can give you a huge performance boost.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    what pie said

    what is your RAM? is it ddr? how much you got?

    you already have a 1+gig cpu and a GeForce4, so whats your RAM?
  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    The only real difference I find with extra ram is in loading times, there again I've never played half life with less than 256 <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->.
  • CrisqoCrisqo Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11625Members
    edited July 2003
    I have 384 mb of sdr ram, but I don't think ram will help me too much?

    And what does proc speed have to do with physics? Isn't that just the game where it says "Ok, you shot a plank of wood, now I just have to play wood1.wav and have it fall over the in the direction it got shot."
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    that will do it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    however If he wants all around increase in comp usage I really would sugest going with an upgrade around 512 DDR (this will really perk up any system <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->, well not those already running this or better <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)
  • ConfusedConfused Wait. What? Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12904Members, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester
    bang for your buck you can buya nice, not great, ati vcard and a cheap athlon chip. for no $$$

    using prices from at current time (includes shipping to us adresses)
    www.pricewatch.com
    $88 - Pentium 4 1.5GHz
    $51 - Athlon XP 1500 or $73 - Athlon XP 2400
    $64 - RADEON 8500
    vs
    $148 GeForce FX 5600 256MB or

    for this kind money cou could even go teh route of a new mother board as well for teh same ammount of money.

    im running ns at a constant 99* my 8500 ( any frame loss is dsl realted instead of video card)

    excepting 32 person severs but that.. yeah
  • littlewildlittlewild Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9467Members
  • fat_alfat_al Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11759Members
    Go with the 5600. I have that exact card, I run NS at almost 99fps ALWAYS.
    Good luck. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • CrisqoCrisqo Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11625Members
    Is that a vanilla 5600 or the 5600 ultra?
  • DrackaDracka Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9906Members
    If you want good fps etc in NS, imho buy a better cpu.
  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited July 2003
    contrary to what seems to be popular belief a geforce 4 mx 440 is really a geforce 2 über ultra, it's not really much like the ti's, it doesn't even support direct x8. If you don't need dx9 a ti4200 is a very nice buy..

    As far as I know a new CPU should give you better performance because even my mx440 could run NS in 100 fps at 800*600 únless there where huge turret spam or something, when the processor was no longer a limitation. My p3-600 MHz and mx440 could hardly run the game(it could but well, it was really choppy).

    A new graphics card mightgive you the biggest overall boost in most games but I suspect it won't help much in NS.

    If you turn off vsync, record a demo and run it as a timedemo at different resolutions you can see when the graphics card becomes the limitation because the CPU usage isn't much affected by resolution but the graphics card is. If the frame rate is constant at different resolutions you will know it's the CPU(at that resolution and framerate) that is your biggest bottle neck.
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