9-11 Survivor

CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
edited July 2003 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">A 9-11 Unreal MOD.</div> I just saw this mod. <a href='http://www.kinematic.org/911.html' target='_blank'>9-11 Survivor</a>. It looks rather interesting.
<b>EDIT:</b> Correction, it's an Unreal Tournament 2003 MOD. Sorry.

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I got to work especially early that day. I did the usual routine of buying my coffee, going outside by West Street for my cigarette, and heading upstairs to the 87th floor to my office. I sat at my desk and responded to my e-mails when Amy, John, and Mike came in. Amy and I chatted, and it was about half past 8. Shortly after that I heard a noise, it sounded like I was on the platform of a subway station and the train was coming full speed ahead. I remember thinking "what the hell is that." It was then that I heard a crash, the ceiling came down, and fire consumed parts of the office and the entire hallway.


I was terrified. My boss said, "get under the desk" to avoid the ceiling coming down on me. The fire was unreal and the smoke was getting thick. I could hardly breathe. I crawled over to my boss's cubicle to grab onto her and reached for my cell phone so I could call my sister. We could hear the sirens of the fire engine instantly after the crash. I looked out the window and saw debris and streams of what I thought was water coming down. I later found out it was jet fuel.


I was scared. I was confused. Mike was calling out, "who is here?" John came for us, grabbing paper towels to cover our faces. It was getting hot and we could smell the smoke. I grabed some of the air packs we had. After the 1993 bombing we got air packs, the same kind that the coal miners use when they need air while they wait to be rescued. Mike led us out the side door to the stairs, and we ran around the hallways looking for the stairwell. Some were brave enough to stay behind and fight the fire.


We made it to the stairs and proceeded down as fast as we could. The stairwells were pitch black and we could barley see. We used the lights from our cell phones and cigerette lighters so we could see where we were going. We reached the 78th floor stairwell and it was locked. A man tried to break it down with a fire extinguisher and failed. People yelled "open the door," unaware that it was locked.


As we went in search of another stairwell entrance we looked out the windows to see if we could see what was going on. Smoke was pouring out of the top of our building, and as we looked acoross to the other tower we saw a huge hole in the side of it with fire and smoke billowing out. We saw several bodies go flying past our window. One was a couple, holding hands as they fell.
We eventually found an open stairwell and got down about 40 flights of stairs. As we approached the plaza level of One World Trade Center the firemen said "just keep walking" and advised us not to look out the windows, and continue down the escalator.


But of course we did. It was completely gray. Glass was broken and debris was scattered through the plaza, and looked like it had been deserted. The firemen insisted that we keep walking. The sprinklers sprayed us from above. "We made it," I remember Amy saying. It was then that I heard that same terrible rumble. What a horrifying sound. Amy and I ran, but the lights went out and you could not see a thing. We hit the floor. We held on to each other in a fetal position as a tidal wave of concrete dust, debris, and shattered glass came flying all at once from behind, rolling over our backs for what seem like forever. Two World Trade Center had collapsed.
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Comments

  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    edited July 2003
    Is it a little late to be cashing in on other people's tragedy?

    Oh well good luck with the exploitation of human life Unreal peoples : )
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Jul 24 2003, 06:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jul 24 2003, 06:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is it a little late to be cashing in on other people's tragedy?

    Oh well good luck with the exploitation of human life Unreal peoples : ) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not TOO late. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> There are tons of WWII games and MODs still cashing in big.
  • BadKarmaBadKarma The Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7 Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8260Members
    Well, they arnt standing to make money, but I agree, they are ****.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    No worse than a MOD about WWII, or any other war. They're trying to let you "relive" it, though. To know what people went through, and hopefully let you REALIZE just how much panic and stress these people were under. I know I'll be playing it.
  • PanzerOxPanzerOx Join Date: 2003-04-22 Member: 15754Members
    edited July 2003
    I just have 2 questions.

    What on god's green earth made you think this would be a good FPS? (Yarr!!! fight the terrorists that didn't die in the crash with common office equipment! YARRR!!!!!)

    and

    Why?
  • BeastBeast Armonkyi Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15731Members, Constellation
    Evil, evil subject for a mod.
    I hope the mod falls flat on its face (aka it dies) Imho.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--PanzerOx+--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (PanzerOx)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    What on god's green earth made you think this would be a good FPS? (Yarr!!! fight the terrorists that didn't die in the crash with common office equipment! YARRR!!!!!)
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    It's not about fighting. It's about surviving.

    <!--QuoteBegin--Beast+--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Beast)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    Evil, evil subject for a mod.
    I hope the mod falls flat on its face (aka it dies) Imho.
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    Why is it an evil subject?
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    edited July 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--CForrester+Jul 24 2003, 05:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Jul 24 2003, 05:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No worse than a MOD about WWII, or any other war. They're trying to let you "relive" it, though. To know what people went through, and hopefully let you REALIZE just how much panic and stress these people were under. I know I'll be playing it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    WWII actually had merit to be made into a movie, book, game, etc. because it was such a large scale event and effected so many people, not to mention there was actual COMBAT involved, and that people involved in war were SOLDIERS and not unsuspecting civilians at their WORK.

    Ok?

    This would be like making a game about vietnam except instead of focusing on the combat you make it about village girls who have to avoid getting sexually violated by soldiers by hiding under dead bodies.


    And if you want to re-live it go rent one of the many many documentaries that were made about it with interviews with REAL people on the subject who can give their personal opinions on what happened to them, not the opinions of some Modder.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    It's not about fighting or anything. The MOD is about understanding what these people went through. I hope it succeeds. You don't have to flame it. If anyone doesn't agree with their MOD theme, don't post. It'll only get the post locked, then it'll drift off the page, where anyone who MIGHT have some interest won't see it. :| Please.
  • BOZOBOZO Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3973Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Shadow
    This is disgusting...how dare they take advantage of such a tragady. What next! Are they going to dedicate it to those that didn't make it out! This is just so sick.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--CForrester+Jul 24 2003, 05:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Jul 24 2003, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's not about fighting or anything. The MOD is about understanding what these people went through. I hope it succeeds. You don't have to flame it. If anyone doesn't agree with their MOD theme, don't post. It'll only get the post locked, then it'll drift off the page, where anyone who MIGHT have some interest won't see it. :| Please. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Like I said rent a documentary, this is just blatent attempt to cash in on publicity of something.

    There are people still in mourning for god's sake, it's just not necessary.
  • EmseeEmsee Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16644Members, Constellation
    Hmmmm...So tempting to send link to Major National Tabloid "Newspaper".....Whether or not they'd run a story condeming all games as evil child murdering tutorials is debatable though. Maybe it'll be a slow newsday.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    edited July 2003
    Arrg. Please, don't post if you're going to flame it. I'd rather play this than watch a documentary, because you get the full blast with this, and documentaries bore me. It's just another medium of telling a story.

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    This is disgusting...how dare they take advantage of such a tragady. What next! Are they going to dedicate it to those that didn't make it out! This is just so sick.
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    You've got it wrong. They're not taking advantage of it. They're telling the story, and letting people "experience" it.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    edited July 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--CForrester+Jul 24 2003, 05:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Jul 24 2003, 05:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Arrg. Please, don't post if you're going to flame it. I'd rather play this than watch a documentary, because you get the full blast with this, and documentaries bore me. It's just another medium of telling a story. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You'd rather play a video game to get the feel of a real life event then watch a documentary with real footage of the events and interviews with the people and families of those involved and coverage of the rescues and repair efforts.


    Yah I SO see your point.


    If you want the feel of it next time someone is going to demolish an apartment building near where you live, ask the crew if you can go into one of the rooms as they set of the explosions then see if you can make it out alive.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    edited July 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Jul 24 2003, 06:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jul 24 2003, 06:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--CForrester+Jul 24 2003, 05:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CForrester @ Jul 24 2003, 05:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Arrg. Please, don't post if you're going to flame it. I'd rather play this than watch a documentary, because you get the full blast with this, and documentaries bore me. It's just another medium of telling a story. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You'd rather play a video game to get the feel of a real life event then watch a documentary with real footage of the events and interviews with the people and families of those involved and coverage of the rescues and repair efforts.


    Yah I SO see your point. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    They only have video of the outside. :/ This lets you experience what it's like to be INSIDE. I'm not going to argue with you guys anymore. I just beg of you guys not to make flamebait of this post. The post is probably going to get locked now, anyway, just don't make it any worse. <b><u>PLEASE.</b></u>

    <b>EDIT</b>: Fixed a minor grammatical error.
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    How does it let you feel like it is to be inside since there is no footage as you said. It's completely fabricated and rendered in a video game engine no less what exactly are you experiencing?

    Like I said earlier if you have some urge to experience what the people in the WTC went through next time someone is going to demolish a building in your neighborhood ask the crew if you can be inside when they set off the explosives.
  • UZiUZi Eight inches of C4 between the legs. Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13767Members
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    im sure there was footage from before hand to recreate the architecture.
    the rest, down to guesswork i guess.
    judge is still out on this one.
    this will, as someone mentioned, be picked up by the media, and will no doubt enrage the moral majority, probably just the work of some small time coder who knows that all publicity is good publicity.
  • Error404Error404 Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9353Members
    OMG, this mod is so sick that I had to go into my back yard to throw up...
  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
    Theres no real point to the mod, but the fact you can commit suicide by jumping out of a hole in the building is disturbing to say the least.

    <img src='http://www.kinematic.org/Shot35small.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
  • Brave_UlyssesBrave_Ulysses Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15922Members
    Imagine that! "Oh **** - I just missed my plane."

    "Don't worry - here comes another one!"

    "Wow - I survived! Now should I just jump out of this building or wait until it collapses?"

    ****.

    Why not try and make a mod about the firemen having to battle their way through streets of gawking idiots (watching & videotaping folks jump to their deaths) in order to help people?

    I suppose it could work in a survival horror type of game like <b>SOS ESCAPE</b> but in a building which collapsed almost immediately? Nah.
  • RellixRellix Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13572Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Wow someone made a game about survivng my birthday.

    It wasent that bad.

    End of sico joke.

    How could you make a game out of it. Its started a bad chain of events.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I looked all over their site.

    It seems their obsessed with death. LIke 9-11 was a good thing. They have screenshots jumping to their death. They said that sometime you just can't live. Thats terribly stupid, not even a game. I could understand just trying to survive, but when sometimes there is no chance, thats BS.
  • kidakida Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
    edited July 2003
    Ok you know what? First of all, i am so hot mother loving dam|\| tired of hearing or seeing things pertaining to 9/11. It's driving me crazy....I know it was very very sad, but talking about it, then making a game 2 years later is not very cool...
    I forgot, where I read this, but acording to this news site I was at, there are some very bad things that happen, like the deaths of thousands of people in a natural disaster, tribal war massacre, or whatever, that barely touches the front pages of the news...But you know what is more important? The death of some celebrity or whatever...I think the the event of 9/11 has been touched enough, should be forgotten, and only remembered on the aniversery. Then as people and nation we should move on...Except for the actual people, who went through this disaster and find it hard to move on, I am talking about us.....


    Let these people do what they want to do, good for them if they want to use this game in a positive way (which I could hardly see) and bad for them if they just want to do this for "fun."

    It's a game, which touches on human issues: death and tragedy, but like most other games, it is no better or worse....For example: Grand theft auto, what makes that better than this "or" worse than this?? The point is, it involves killing and bloodshed...So what if 9/11 was a real life situation, not trying to offend anyone, but at least this game has somewhat of a point in that you are trying to escape....Not like your mission is to kill people in a deathmatch matter.

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinions...Whether it is expressing it through ways by making a game, touching on the very human issues that have effected us all or for example: Like me saying that going to Iraq bombing and killing Sadamm at the costs of thousands of civilians is mad.... <-----I am entitled to that opinion...


    -peace, lets not flame...

    EDIT: when I say freely, I don't mean killing people on the streets in real life...I think you understand what Iam saying
  • PerfectionsFlawPerfectionsFlaw Join Date: 2003-02-14 Member: 13555Members
    Ehhh, this is a for real mod isn't it? Ohhh that's sad. The idea of staining thousands of people's memories doesn't cross my mind, but the idea of a game is to be fun. If it's not fun, I highly doubt it would be considering the way most people view the incident, then it's not worthy of going to production. Top that off with the fact that it's sooo unoriginal and you have a worthless piece of code flip-flopping around on the internet, powered by hate mail to the creator.

    Personally, I'd rather someone made a Chernobyl mod where you were like an engineer, and you had to patch up the leak, and cool down the reactors before they blew up. And when it blew up, because face it it would blow up, it would create a rip in the dimensional barriers, and aliens would spawn all over the powerplant, and even though you were wearing your hazard suit the nuclear sludge is soo powerful it would sear through it in a second if you touched it. And the aliens would zap you with lightening and the smaller ones would latch onto your head and- wait a second... I just came up with an original idea! Someone put it to game format!!


    YAY!! They made a game called Half-Life after my idea!!!
  • MoquiaoMoquiao Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16168Members
    i have to say i love forresters views about things on these forums... he always hits things froma different angle to everyone..

    it is a experience.. if i had unreal i would play it.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--[WoLF]+Jul 24 2003, 08:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([WoLF] @ Jul 24 2003, 08:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i have to say i love forresters views about things on these forums... he always hits things froma different angle to everyone..

    it is a experience.. if i had unreal i would play it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thanks. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> I'm just a different person, to be honest....

    And you can get UT2k3 for about $15 at EBGames used, now. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> I picked it up for $24.99 CDN. (I used to say $22. I had the price wrong. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->)
  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    lmao, this mod is awesome. the people who start at the top dont stand a chance

    (Grade A flamebait as well)
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <span style='color:red'>***Locked***</span> due to general flamery.

    As for the mod - wrong approach. While I see the merit of trying to make a historical moment 'experiencable', 11-9 is just too recent. The big difference between it and WW2 is first and foremost that enough time has passed to make people learn how to cope with the memories.
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