Bad Aim

Cowswin · July 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">The gamers point of view</div> Check out this cartoon, got sent it at work, hilarious stuff...in a strange sort of way <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'> Do not read if you get offended easily or disagree with pointing fun at school shootings!

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BOZO · July 2003

It was funny at first, but now I feal guilty <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Rellix · July 2003

I always thought about that before 100 rounds and 15 hits or so I hear.

Jammer · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> It was funny at first, but now I feal guilty </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Its gas, don't worry about it.

And that was pretty funny, actually.

Wither · July 2003

That's sick.

Awesome.

Haze · July 2003

Hmm...thats...unusual.

OttoDestruct · July 2003

Thats just.. wrong

Beast · July 2003

Part of me goes:
NOE ITS WRONG

Part of me goes:
ROFL

Another part of me goes:
PIE

Vyvn · July 2003

Why does the reporter look like Santa Claus?

dr_d · July 2003

I've always agreed with this in a sick way. I remember a story about a guy walking into his office building three weeks after being fired with an AK and a duffel bag full of ammo, he injured 14 people and killed 2 before being arrested. Now even with a semi-auto AK you could easily kill a person with 1-2 bullets if you place center mass. Typically an AK clip holds 25 bullets, 35 if the clip is extended. Now this guy had a duffel bag FULL of ammo, and from the reports he reloaded more than 5 times. Even factoring in that he would probably be slightly panicked and people would be running (although if you should shoot someone in the upper back with an AK they would most likely die) 2 fatalities is on the lowish side. Needless to say if I knew I was either going to get the death penalty or spend the rest of my life in jail I'd go out of my way to take as many people down with me as possible, maybe that's just me.

(No offense to anyone who was personally affected by this crime)

Forlorn · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vyvn @ Jul 23 2003, 04:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Why does the reporter look like Santa Claus?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Why do the gamers look like circles and blobs?

Other than that... kinda funny, but sick also.

Bogglesteinsky · July 2003

funny, if a little twisted

OttoDestruct · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I've always agreed with this in a sick way. I remember a story about a guy walking into his office building three weeks after being fired with an AK and a duffel bag full of ammo, he injured 14 people and killed 2 before being arrested. Now even with a semi-auto AK you could easily kill a person with 1-2 bullets if you place center mass. Typically an AK clip holds 25 bullets, 35 if the clip is extended. Now this guy had a duffel bag FULL of ammo, and from the reports he reloaded more than 5 times. Even factoring in that he would probably be slightly panicked and people would be running (although if you should shoot someone in the upper back with an AK they would most likely die) 2 fatalities is on the lowish side. Needless to say if I knew I was either going to get the death penalty or spend the rest of my life in jail I'd go out of my way to take as many people down with me as possible, maybe that's just me.

(No offense to anyone who was personally affected by this crime)
</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

You see dr. d theres this thing called real life. In real life, unlike in games, you cant just move a mouse around and aim like a god. It actually takes some skill to aim a gun, and keep control over it when youre spraying it around.

Diablus · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vyvn @ Jul 23 2003, 04:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Why does the reporter look like Santa Claus?  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
don't ask just be like the rest of us and laugh, or do you really want to know the horrible, spooky, evil truth? be a good kiddie and go along with us <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

NumbersNotFound · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Jul 23 2003, 04:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I've always agreed with this in a sick way. I remember a story about a guy walking into his office building three weeks after being fired with an AK and a duffel bag full of ammo, he injured 14 people and killed 2 before being arrested. Now even with a semi-auto AK you could easily kill a person with 1-2 bullets if you place center mass. Typically an AK clip holds 25 bullets, 35 if the clip is extended. Now this guy had a duffel bag FULL of ammo, and from the reports he reloaded more than 5 times. Even factoring in that he would probably be slightly panicked and people would be running (although if you should shoot someone in the upper back with an AK they would most likely die) 2 fatalities is on the lowish side. Needless to say if I knew I was either going to get the death penalty or spend the rest of my life in jail I'd go out of my way to take as many people down with me as possible, maybe that's just me.

(No offense to anyone who was personally affected by this crime)
</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

You see dr. d theres this thing called real life. In real life, unlike in games, you cant just move a mouse around and aim like a god. It actually takes some skill to aim a gun, and keep control over it when youre spraying it around.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
In real life you don't spray guns around, you use controlled bursts which are very controlable.

While an AK47 is a pretty high powered round, it is accurate enough for close quarters.

I've fired many guns in my life, from shotguns to rifles to handguns, and of all of them i'd take a shotgun for home defense as they can throw the most lead downrange in the shortest amount of time.

The only real controlable full-auto guns are small calibur like a 9mm MP5 or somesuch..

GreyPaws · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Jul 23 2003, 04:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I've always agreed with this in a sick way. I remember a story about a guy walking into his office building three weeks after being fired with an AK and a duffel bag full of ammo, he injured 14 people and killed 2 before being arrested. Now even with a semi-auto AK you could easily kill a person with 1-2 bullets if you place center mass. Typically an AK clip holds 25 bullets, 35 if the clip is extended. Now this guy had a duffel bag FULL of ammo, and from the reports he reloaded more than 5 times. Even factoring in that he would probably be slightly panicked and people would be running (although if you should shoot someone in the upper back with an AK they would most likely die) 2 fatalities is on the lowish side. Needless to say if I knew I was either going to get the death penalty or spend the rest of my life in jail I'd go out of my way to take as many people down with me as possible, maybe that's just me.

(No offense to anyone who was personally affected by this crime)
</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

You see dr. d theres this thing called real life. In real life, unlike in games, you cant just move a mouse around and aim like a god. It actually takes some skill to aim a gun, and keep control over it when youre spraying it around.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
have you even ever fired an AK?

I fired the most basic model (semi-auto, wooden butstock, no flash suppressor, or pistol grip) and I was able to get 10 inch groups at 300 yards with no scope.

When I fired my friends AK with a folding stock, pistol grip, flash suppressor and scope I was able to get 5 inch groups at 500 yards

That was with a 30 round magazine and it took no more than 3 minutes each time.

So dr.d has a great point, youd have to be a total dipwad or simply high on something to fire 150 rounds (30 round mag x 5 reloads) and only kill 2 people inside a fargen office building. In my opinion the people who do these shootings dont actually want to kill anyone, they are just messed up, and in a terrible life situation.

lolfighter · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Beast @ Jul 23 2003, 08:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Another part of me goes:
PIE </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
mmmm pie
Couldn't resist. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>
Find the comic funny though. Nice to be a little cynic.

dr_d · July 2003

Don't fret it Grey, Otto obviously lives in a world where AK's shoot streams of bullets like a firehouse in a children's cartoon that send you flapping around in a hilarious manner. Yes I must have forgot in real life people have life and armor too so it would take a lot of aim and effort to bring one of those suckers down, and here I thought a bullet from an AK would kill in a matter of minutes if it hit anything vital and induce shock almost anywhere near center mass.

Silly me.

NumbersNotFound · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GreyPaws @ Jul 23 2003, 05:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Jul 23 2003, 04:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I've always agreed with this in a sick way. I remember a story about a guy walking into his office building three weeks after being fired with an AK and a duffel bag full of ammo, he injured 14 people and killed 2 before being arrested. Now even with a semi-auto AK you could easily kill a person with 1-2 bullets if you place center mass. Typically an AK clip holds 25 bullets, 35 if the clip is extended. Now this guy had a duffel bag FULL of ammo, and from the reports he reloaded more than 5 times. Even factoring in that he would probably be slightly panicked and people would be running (although if you should shoot someone in the upper back with an AK they would most likely die) 2 fatalities is on the lowish side. Needless to say if I knew I was either going to get the death penalty or spend the rest of my life in jail I'd go out of my way to take as many people down with me as possible, maybe that's just me.

(No offense to anyone who was personally affected by this crime)
</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

You see dr. d theres this thing called real life. In real life, unlike in games, you cant just move a mouse around and aim like a god. It actually takes some skill to aim a gun, and keep control over it when youre spraying it around. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
have you even ever fired an AK?

I fired the most basic model (semi-auto, wooden butstock, no flash suppressor, or pistol grip) and I was able to get 10 inch groups at 300 yards with no scope.

When I fired my friends AK with a folding stock, pistol grip, flash suppressor and scope I was able to get 5 inch groups at 500 yards

That was with a 30 round magazine and it took no more than 3 minutes each time.

So dr.d has a great point, youd have to be a total dipwad or simply high on something to fire 150 rounds (30 round mag x 5 reloads) and only kill 2 people inside a fargen office building. In my opinion the people who do these shootings dont actually want to kill anyone, they are just messed up, and in a terrible life situation.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Ummm... with a peep-sighted prone shooting .22 target rifle i can hardly get 5inch groups at 100 yards...

If you're THAT good you should beat most of the olympic team <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

dr_d · July 2003

I actually witnessed that, he is pretty damned good.....it was probably mostly the gun......plus he had a scope....h4xor.

Anything over 150 yards is pushing it for a .22 so I'm not surprised

(Grey now that I think about it I think it was 400 yards no?)

marksman_not_newbie · July 2003

i dont reply often, and this is completely off topic. But......

404NotFound:- OMG LOL ROFL LMAO. sorry, but i only just noticed ur sig. Man does that sig pwn all other sigs.

On topic though. Someone i know trains armed police here in britain and he can hit targets with his pistols at ranges that most people cant have a hope of hitting with a rifle. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'> . I cant remember the exact range. But this guy is like uber ellite. I think he was in the SAS or some ****. Oh and btw. SAS Pwns U

NumbersNotFound · July 2003

Yes, i couldn't resist after I saw the nuke sig in that "forum grenades" topic.

marksman_not_newbie · July 2003

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>, i will have to look at that. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Moquiao · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Beast @ Jul 23 2003, 07:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Part of me goes:
NOE ITS WRONG

Part of me goes:
ROFL

Another part of me goes:
PIE  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
mines the same only replace the Pie with CAEK

TenSix · July 2003

Somone posts a comic about school shootings and it stays. I post an image saying "Welcome to Last Week" and get my post edited and threatened with a ban.

dr_d · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TenSix @ Jul 23 2003, 06:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Somone posts a comic about school shootings and it stays. I post an image saying "Welcome to Last Week" and get my post edited and threatened with a ban.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
All whining about previous locks and/or nukes may be handled via PM. Thank you.

1.) He posted a link
2.) It is remotely funny
3.) It has been stated many many (many) times that stupid pics in threads will be nuked.

GreyPaws · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (404NotFound @ Jul 23 2003, 05:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Ummm... with a peep-sighted prone shooting .22 target rifle i can hardly get 5inch groups at 100 yards...

If you're THAT good you should beat most of the olympic team <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

 </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Well the olympic team doesnt fire a 7.62 by 39 round. I'm willing to give an inch or two but my entire group(scoped) was within the first 4 rings of a 300m target so I figured it was around 5 inches or so. I didnt place a disc over the group at the end or anything so I didnt have exact measurements.

and dr.d I think it was 300. the metal square thing was at 100 and I placed the first target at the next line (300) I think and then on the last one before the hill which is 500??? Ask Krafters Dad he knows for sure <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Liku · July 2003

LOL Funny.

TenSix · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>All whining about previous locks and/or nukes may be handled via PM. Thank you.

1.) He posted a link
2.) It is remotely funny
3.) It has been stated many many (many) times that stupid pics in threads will be nuked. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

I was commenting on the hypocracy of it all, pfft. And whether something is funny or not isnt up to you, what if somone donsent find that comic funny? Does that mean it should be edited?

X_Stickman · July 2003

I find it funny because i disagree with the whole idea that playing a game with some violence in can induce random shootings. I played Sonic The Hedgehog a lot when i was younger, yet i do not go round rolling, jumping, spinning and generally harming robots and/or insects. The same as i do not go around killing counter terrorists/terrorists, Kharra or TSA Marines.

But i have to adree with teh Dr. I mean, random spray in a room full of people would kill more than two. He was teh nubcaek

CplDavis · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jammer @ Jul 23 2003, 12:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> It was funny at first, but now I feal guilty </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Its gas, don't worry about it.

And that was pretty funny, actually.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I didnt feel any more guilty then after watching that Mentos commerical with the kid and the sniper rifle. <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

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