Swg Pay For Patches?

GreyPawsGreyPaws Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8659Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Clarify those of u who play it</div> I just heard a rumor that Star Wars Galaxies (a pay for Play MMoRPG) will be charging players for patches/expansions. The example I heard was that the space aspect of the game (piloting your own ships) that was supposed to be released with the game when it came out, will be an add on in 2004 that they willc harge for? Any truth to this?

PS

Is it worth it?

I'm considdering buying the game

Comments

  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    It would <b>appear</b> to be true. Looking at <a href='http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/expansions.jsp?page=Expansions' target='_blank'>this page</a>, they're calling it an expansion, not a patch. And as we all know, expansion packs are usually retail products.

    One thing i'm wondering, if it needs to be purchased seperately, how do you figure the compatability will be between the original copy and the expanded copy.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    They said from the getgo that the space flight would be a seperate expansion pack...
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Jul 15 2003, 05:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jul 15 2003, 05:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They said from the getgo that the space flight would be a seperate expansion pack... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This makes me want to crush them into small piles of beefs.

    Here's me holding out from subscribing until the initial proposed features are implemented (space travel, self-pilotable vehicles, et cetera) and lo and behold we have to PAY for them.

    Sorry, but they just lost themselves a customer.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--::esuna::+Jul 15 2003, 08:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (::esuna:: @ Jul 15 2003, 08:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Jul 15 2003, 05:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jul 15 2003, 05:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They said from the getgo that the space flight would be a seperate expansion pack... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This makes me want to crush them into small piles of beefs.

    Here's me holding out from subscribing until the initial proposed features are implemented (space travel, self-pilotable vehicles, et cetera) and lo and behold we have to PAY for them.

    Sorry, but they just lost themselves a customer. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Self pilotable vehicles and stuff are planned for patches, I think. Space travel was never in from the getgo, it was always in the expansion.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--::esuna::+Jul 15 2003, 05:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (::esuna:: @ Jul 15 2003, 05:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Jul 15 2003, 05:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jul 15 2003, 05:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They said from the getgo that the space flight would be a seperate expansion pack... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This makes me want to crush them into small piles of beefs.

    Here's me holding out from subscribing until the initial proposed features are implemented (space travel, self-pilotable vehicles, et cetera) and lo and behold we have to PAY for them.

    Sorry, but they just lost themselves a customer. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    How is it Sony's fault that you got confused and thought the expansion pack was part of the game? I mean you don't see me crying cause Frozen Throne wasn't bundled with Warcraft III :P
  • SpceM0nkeySpceM0nkey Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12480Members
    slight difference because:

    Warcraft 3 is an excellant game in its own right - SWG is not

    not to mention frozen throne is worth paying for - SWG is not.
  • MrPinkMrPink Join Date: 2002-05-28 Member: 678Members
    SWG is freaking ridiculous how expensive it is, someone calculated it and it was around $240 to play it for one year, and now we have to pay for patches? Excuse me, but <b>danm.</b>
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Scarface apparently didn't read the post, just the title:

    GreyPaws is mistaken, you do not have to pay for patches.
  • JammerJammer Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 728Members, Constellation
    The SWG/War3 analogy is more like this:

    Warcraft III/SWG was announced. "Clan Features!/Pilotable Vehicles!"
    Warcraft III/SWG had the feature pulled do to time constraints. "We'll put them in the expansion!"

    Frozen Throne/SWG Exp announced. "Clan Features!/Pilotable Vehicles"
    Frozen Throne/SWG Exp released with Clan Features/Pilotable Vehicles.

    The big difference is that Blizzard isn't run by freaking accoutants and decided to retrofit Warcraft III with the same features because they love games, not money.

    And yes, I agree that SWG is a waste of money at this point. Wait 2-3 years. But them WoW will be out! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Scarface121+Jul 15 2003, 10:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Scarface121 @ Jul 15 2003, 10:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ...someone calculated it and it was around $240 to play it for one year... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Someone learned math at the nice wood building where the teachers use apples to explain addition, and don't even TRY to make it to subtraction.
  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
    The SWG space expansion is already done, it was done during beta testing. Funny thing is, the ammount of time they spent on the expansion could have gone into actually making the game playable. Oh wait, that would cost more money and take longer, not profitable!
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    I really wonder... I read what people who were in the beta say about SWG, and I think "Holy CRAP Batman!" Then I read what GameSpy writes about this game, and the amount of coverage they give a supposedly forgettable game (along with a score of 75, despite aknowledging that it's a bug-fest). Either someone's badmouthing SOE, or GameSpy's been bribed.
  • PseudoKnightPseudoKnight Join Date: 2002-06-18 Member: 791Members
    GameSpy gave a fair review.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--lolfighter+Jul 16 2003, 11:03 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Jul 16 2003, 11:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I really wonder... I read what people who were in the beta say about SWG, and I think "Holy CRAP Batman!" Then I read what GameSpy writes about this game, and the amount of coverage they give a supposedly forgettable game (along with a score of 75, despite aknowledging that it's a bug-fest). Either someone's badmouthing SOE, or GameSpy's been bribed. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've been comparing quite a number of reviews, and in the end, it seems to boil down to how tolerant you are to bugs and whether you decided for a crafting or a fighting class. The extensive SWG coverage of GSI has in my eyes a simple reason: Whether good or bad, it's still <i>the</i> summer title 2003 (until July 31st, that is <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->).
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Scarface121+Jul 15 2003, 08:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Scarface121 @ Jul 15 2003, 08:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> SWG is freaking ridiculous how expensive it is, someone calculated it and it was around $240 to play it for one year, and now we have to pay for patches? Excuse me, but <b>danm.</b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Er, it's on the official site that they offer 1 year's subscription for around $140.

    The difference between Frozen Throne and the SWG Expansion is that for WC3 you're not paying $15 per month only to find out that you have to pay an extra $40 (or whatever) for an expansion pack which they didn't manage to get in the initial release.
  • VenmochVenmoch Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1093Members
    I saw this and thought of SWG

    <img src='http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/images/comics/_0_20030628.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Venmoch+Jul 16 2003, 09:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Venmoch @ Jul 16 2003, 09:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I saw this and thought of SWG

    *above comic* <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well it'd be interesting if you saw that picture and thought of Super Mario Bros.....
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    Hehe, thats a good one.

    I have experienced p2p MMORPGs in the form of Ultima Online, a great game. Maybe not graphically superb (i still prefer 2D mode) but still... great!

    Until it gets repetetive and you've killed every monster in the game and you get sick of mages called "G@nd@1f" saying "OMG i kill3d a Balr0n, I r teh l33tz0r!".

    The roleplaying guild kept my interest for another 3 months, I joined the guardsmen millitia and had a lot of fun with consensual PVP against the other Roleplaying guilds (and got Owned repeatedly by the undeads), but then I got bored again. And I realised they were releasing ANOTHER expansion.... so I quit.

    In the history of UO there has been:

    Ultima Online (original)

    Renaisance (spelled wrong)

    The 2nd age (first one I bought, it was on sale for £2 since third dawn was out)

    Third Dawn (commonly called "Turd Yawn", since it SUCKED) I payed £30 for it

    Lord Blackthorne's Revenge (Now THIS was actually worth buying, it came with quest features, LOTS of new monsters, and an actual STORYLINE OMG OMG OMG, no more aimless killing, i get to aimlessly kill the scenario monsters instead!!!111one!!)

    And then they released the latest one, the name of which I forget. I didn't want to pay another £30, so i didn't. Bye bye UO.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nil_IQ+Jul 16 2003, 07:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Jul 16 2003, 07:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hehe, thats a good one.

    I have experienced p2p MMORPGs in the form of Ultima Online, a great game. Maybe not graphically superb (i still prefer 2D mode) but still... great!

    Until it gets repetetive and you've killed every monster in the game and you get sick of mages called "G@nd@1f" saying "OMG i kill3d a Balr0n, I r teh l33tz0r!".

    The roleplaying guild kept my interest for another 3 months, I joined the guardsmen millitia and had a lot of fun with consensual PVP against the other Roleplaying guilds (and got Owned repeatedly by the undeads), but then I got bored again. And I realised they were releasing ANOTHER expansion.... so I quit.

    In the history of UO there has been:

    Ultima Online (original)

    Renaisance (spelled wrong)

    The 2nd age (first one I bought, it was on sale for £2 since third dawn was out)

    Third Dawn (commonly called "Turd Yawn", since it SUCKED) I payed £30 for it

    Lord Blackthorne's Revenge (Now THIS was actually worth buying, it came with quest features, LOTS of new monsters, and an actual STORYLINE OMG OMG OMG, no more aimless killing, i get to aimlessly kill the scenario monsters instead!!!111one!!)

    And then they released the latest one, the name of which I forget. I didn't want to pay another £30, so i didn't. Bye bye UO. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    One thing i liked from my experience of UO was the cost. I picked up Renaissance (i think) for something like £10-15 and then got online on a free server. No subscription costs, yay!
  • UZiUZi Eight inches of C4 between the legs. Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13767Members
    let me tell you something.

    SWG was release rather crapping why should one spend money MONTHLY then have to pay 50 dollers more a month later

    I don't see when character storage for 15 bucks is legal. like I said all MMORPG have 1 fatal flaw their godamn expencive.


    Tho I still shelled out cash for 10six.
  • XzilenXzilen Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11642Members, Constellation
    Eh, the game just flat out sucks, no way around it.
  • GreyPawsGreyPaws Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8659Members
    Ok so patches are free, but that space flight is an expansion so they will charge for it. Got it. I guess I'm gunna skip buying it, its $50 retail and then $15 per month kinda steep.

    I think that is pay for play games were fare I would buy into them

    IE if I pay $15 for one month of gaming I should get 30 full days (720hrs)

    but people like me who are busy and get to play for 4 days a month (sundays) it comes out to $15 for 40 hrs (if I play 10 hours per day on sundays) and not a month like they claim.

    So as soon as the money making jugernauts who put these games out deside they want to be fair I'll buy in.
  • criticaIcriticaI Join Date: 2003-04-07 Member: 15269Banned, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Scarface121+Jul 15 2003, 09:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Scarface121 @ Jul 15 2003, 09:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> SWG is freaking ridiculous how expensive it is, someone calculated it and it was around $240 to play it for one year, and now we have to pay for patches? Excuse me, but <b>danm.</b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You don't have to pay for patches

    All of you anti SWG are just IGNORANT IDIOTS.

    Thx.

    Every other company in the gaming industry makes extra money from expansion packs... Sony is entitled to use a business practice that clearly works.

    Apparently, alot of gamers have some sort of anti-establishment problem which means they all hate Microsoft, Sony, or any other big company. Windows XP pro is the best OS I've ever had the pleasure of using. Sony has put out one of the best products they've ever made with SWG.

    When I first started playing SWG I disliked it, but it has gradually grown on me to the point where I really enjoy it now.
  • 343_guilty_spark343_guilty_spark Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17462Members
    Sony sucks at online games, they lost so much money by making people pay to play online, all my friends would have gotten planetside if it didn't cost to pay online, the reason UT 2003, RTCW, C-S, N-S are popular as it cost <i>nothing</i> to play them online, hence people will pay for the game while if it costed £50 to pay online, you would screw that and walk off. Lol people think Microsoft are evil, Sony is not much better <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Well no way in hell i am paying £94 to play a game online, sorry Sony but you lost a customer.

    BTW cri.tical have you played the beta?
  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You don't have to pay for patches

    All of you anti SWG are just IGNORANT IDIOTS.

    Thx.

    Every other company in the gaming industry makes extra money from expansion packs... Sony is entitled to use a business practice that clearly works.

    Apparently, alot of gamers have some sort of anti-establishment problem which means they all hate Microsoft, Sony, or any other big company. Windows XP pro is the best OS I've ever had the pleasure of using. Sony has put out one of the best products they've ever made with SWG.

    When I first started playing SWG I disliked it, but it has gradually grown on me to the point where I really enjoy it now. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I use Windows XP too, that dosen't mean im going to shell out a few $100 for the honor of playing a POS game. The following comic sums it up wonderfully (Sorry for the explenative in it).

    <img src='http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2003/20030716l.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
  • GreyPawsGreyPaws Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8659Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--cri.tical+Jul 16 2003, 03:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cri.tical @ Jul 16 2003, 03:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Scarface121+Jul 15 2003, 09:48 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Scarface121 @ Jul 15 2003, 09:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> SWG is freaking ridiculous how expensive it is, someone calculated it and it was around $240 to play it for one year, and now we have to pay for patches?  Excuse me, but <b>danm.</b> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You don't have to pay for patches

    All of you anti SWG are just IGNORANT IDIOTS.

    Thx.

    Every other company in the gaming industry makes extra money from expansion packs... Sony is entitled to use a business practice that clearly works.

    Apparently, alot of gamers have some sort of anti-establishment problem which means they all hate Microsoft, Sony, or any other big company. Windows XP pro is the best OS I've ever had the pleasure of using. Sony has put out one of the best products they've ever made with SWG.

    When I first started playing SWG I disliked it, but it has gradually grown on me to the point where I really enjoy it now. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wow what constructive opinions.

    Please, don’t stop teaching us about business practices ohh great shaman.


    And like I said, if you were billed for the time you ACTUALLY spent playing, it would be ok. I dont like the Idea of paying $15 to get 4 days worth of gaming out of my supposed "month"
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <span style='color:red'>***Locked.***</span> This topic is too mean and sarcastic for <i>me</i>, which means that you're nearing toxic levels here.
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