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Iced_EagleIced_Eagle Borg Engineer Join Date: 2003-03-02 Member: 14218Members
edited July 2003 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">What's coming in years from now</div> Well, this thread will be talking about technology that is coming in a few years.... The thing the average person doesn't understand is that we have EXTREMELY advanced technology.... just no hardware to run it.. for example I include this pic which will show what players will look like in years to come... Some things such as A.I., computer-generated Ecosystems that create own live, etc... Go here for graphics which will soon be in some advanced FPS... <a href='http://www.3dtotal.com/home2/gallery/getgalleryitem.asp?id=749' target='_blank'>Realistic Graphics</a> that is photo realistic if you ask me... and with the Source engine's eyes it would rules... Also this site shows A.I. that learns to walk using artificial evolution A.I. technique... creepy stuff <a href='http://www.naturalmotion.com/index.htm' target='_blank'>NaturalMotion</a>

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  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    That head is pretty creepy, so realistic.

    Heres my input. You all know about the 'downloadable hardware' joke? A technique is being developed that allows you to do just that!

    The idea is that you download a image of the board, probably a blueprint of somesort except much more complex. Then you print it off on special paper. I don't know if the printer has to change too. The main problem with this is that the board is much slower than traditional silicone based boards.
  • Iced_EagleIced_Eagle Borg Engineer Join Date: 2003-03-02 Member: 14218Members
    edited July 2003
    download hardware?? wierd <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> and btw try to provide links to the stuff your showing off guys
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    i love how at the end of <a href='http://www.naturalmotion-mirror1.com/NaturalMotion_GDC2003_ShowReel.avi' target='_blank'>this</a> video they show all the "sports" which involve him falling over.... every time.. lol

    "tennis" man falls over "baseball" man falls over

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Iced_EagleIced_Eagle Borg Engineer Join Date: 2003-03-02 Member: 14218Members
    the football ones are cool too <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> and what is cool is that the A.I. learns how to balance itself....all in real time and its funny when he gets hit in the nuts and he keels over holding them <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--briguy992+Jul 9 2003, 02:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (briguy992 @ Jul 9 2003, 02:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the football ones are cool too <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> and what is cool is that the A.I. learns how to balance itself....all in real time and its funny when he gets hit in the nuts and he keels over holding them <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah but still.. every sport is just him falling over.. i love it <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • GreeGree Join Date: 2003-05-18 Member: 16454Members
    The future of computers is rather bleak if you think about it. The only thing that is driving the computer industry right now is computer games. So yes in a few years you can get 10 tera byte hard disks for your 10 gig game, but thats it. The only OS will be Windows Crash, wich crashes every five minutes without a valid internet connection. The ram will be just huge and processor speed will be in at around its peak provided no room temperature super conductors are invented. The games themsevles will be huge and indistinguishable from live actors. No man will have gone futher than the moon even though the United States had the technology to get a man to Saturn by 1970, called project ORION. All other branches of life will just about the same though.
  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Gree+Jul 9 2003, 03:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gree @ Jul 9 2003, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The future of computers is rather bleak if you think about it. The only thing that is driving the computer industry right now is computer games. So yes in a few years you can get 10 tera byte hard disks for your 10 gig game, but thats it. The only OS will be Windows Crash, wich crashes every five minutes without a valid internet connection. The ram will be just huge and processor speed will be in at around its peak provided no room temperature super conductors are invented. The games themsevles will be huge and indistinguishable from live actors. No man will have gone futher than the moon even though the United States had the technology to get a man to Saturn by 1970, called project ORION. All other branches of life will just about the same though. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    gree, I'm so glad you're well-informed about the current Computing Industry. /sarcasm

    were you quoting something, or spouting some form of luddite propoganda?
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Speaking of propoganda, happy fourth everyone.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    Yeah, I mean seriously, when was the last time anyone except a hard-core gamer ever used a computer?
  • GnatsumGnatsum Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10566Members
    I don't believe that they could make such a photorealistic model (im talking about brigguys post)
    they must have taken a picture of a real boy and then compared it to some 3d model of a a boy.
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    Oh it is possible. Just have one look at the HL2 E3 video. The glint on the eyes is almost identical and the facial expressions are incredibly accurate. Surely there are more realistic and accurate models, after all it would be a heavy load on a processor to run a game with that detail. That photo is computer generated right enough.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    The head of a boy thing was pretty cool, to bad the chin and hair give it away it's fake.
  • SaltySalty Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6970Members
    edited July 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Gree+Jul 9 2003, 03:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gree @ Jul 9 2003, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The future of computers is rather bleak if you think about it.  The only thing that is driving the computer industry right now is computer games.  So yes in a few years you can get 10 tera byte hard disks for your 10 gig game, but thats it. The only OS will be Windows Crash, wich crashes every five minutes without a valid internet connection. The ram will be just huge and processor speed will be in at around its peak provided no room temperature super conductors are invented.  The games themsevles will be huge and indistinguishable from live actors.  No man will have gone futher than the moon even though the United States had the technology to get a man to Saturn by 1970, called project ORION.  All other branches of life will just about the same though. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah thats why my school bought a new super computer, ooh wait I mean for meterology and genetics.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    right, personal computers are essentially for playing, but you have to understand some people actually work. Else the CRAY would still be around and the Earth Simulator wouldn't have seen the day.

    The power supplied in your house isn't made by a guy biking in a dynamo. Your computer won't be built or designed by a craftman with a pen and a pencil and a box of tools.
    Weather broadcast isn't predicted with a frog going up and down a ladder. Those are only 3 examples, but I would link you to that post on the Mars race to show that space programs are still around. And guess what, they involve computers as well.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Darkbolt101+Jul 9 2003, 07:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darkbolt101 @ Jul 9 2003, 07:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't believe that they could make such a photorealistic model (im talking about brigguys post)
    they must have taken a picture of a real boy and then compared it to some 3d model of a a boy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Pssh, come on, that's not SO amazing. Half the crap you saw in Episode 2 was digital. Ewan McGregor wasn't there 1/4th the time. You don't realize it, but if ILM had done as much work on making a realistic looking human as they did on Yoda or The Hulk, we wouldn't need actors for their faces anymore.
  • FantasmoFantasmo Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7369Members
    edited July 2003
    This is the future of computers?

    <b>Quantum Computer</b>
    <a href='http://www.cs.caltech.edu/~westside/quantum-intro.html' target='_blank'>http://www.cs.caltech.edu/~westside/quantum-intro.html</a>

    The future of manufacturing?

    <b>Nanotechnology</b>
    <a href='http://www.foresight.org/NanoRev/FIFAQ1.html#FAQ1' target='_blank'>http://www.foresight.org/NanoRev/FIFAQ1.html#FAQ1</a>

    The future energy source?

    <b>Nuclear Fusion</b>
    <a href='http://library.thinkquest.org/17940/texts/fusion_controlled/fusion_controlled.html?tqskip1=1&tqtime=0709' target='_blank'>http://library.thinkquest.org/17940/texts/...1=1&tqtime=0709</a>
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    I believe that nano-tubes are the future of computers... The technology is maturing fast, they can be used in processors, ram, and hard drives.

    One CC of nano tubes processed the right way will give one terabit of data storage O_o
  • Iced_EagleIced_Eagle Borg Engineer Join Date: 2003-03-02 Member: 14218Members
    edited July 2003
    i cant remember what the record internet speed record is... its like 2 gigs in 10 secs from texas to illinois.... fiarly amazing and once the tech becomes widely used it will become cheaper and sooner or later T1 will become the 14k of the internet <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> and about that boy model its amazing that when you look at a movie you cant really tell... but once people show you, you are like... WOW! like a magic trick.... and actually i just read that scientists have learned to stop time for something uber uber uber uber small.... and are learning new stages of atomic development... it was in a Discovery magazine i saw... what i cant wait for is when you are actually in the game... as in star trex when you go into that holo room place... and nanites and robotics are actually all coming in the next 20 years... for example in the year ~2015 the US wishes to have all gasoline stations replaced with hydrogen refueling stations... yes hydrogen powered cars exist... if i remember right hydrogen powered cars will be for sale in 2005... then bye bye gasoline and hello 5c fuel ups <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> and i mean pure hydrogen powered cars... they said the only problem they have is ensuring that the hydrogen stays in its solid state (? im pretty sure its not liquid) and then instantly turns into fuel before it can go boom... but i cant wait for my hydro powered ferrari <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Edit: BTW some thing i just remembered... did you know John Carmack was a rocket scientist and is making a space rocket that can be used for tourism... its for a contest and can be found in popular science... anyways i want true A.I. such as artificial bio-ecosystems... i saw one on the internet but i dont feel like buying it... also AI could be so advanced that if you possibly knocked it on the ground or tripped on a pipe and sat there and begged for it's life... that would be scary since AI never begs for it's life if not programmed too directly...
  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    The Orion project involved propelling craft through the use of nuclear explosions correct?
    ... link digging.
  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    Links and pics of project Orion.

    <a href='http://www.islandone.org/Propulsion/ProjectOrion.html' target='_blank'>Project Orion History</a>

    <a href='http://www.angelfire.com/on2/daviddarling/OrionProj.htm' target='_blank'>Orion, Project</a>

    <img src='http://www.angelfire.com/on2/daviddarling/Orionspacecraft.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
  • GnatsumGnatsum Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10566Members
    Ok look that 3d boy IS faek. Real 3d objects and people can be easily distinguished from normal objects. Anyone can tell if something is really CG or not. That picture i believe is a fake.
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Darkbolt101+Jul 10 2003, 07:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darkbolt101 @ Jul 10 2003, 07:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ok look that 3d boy IS faek. Real 3d objects and people can be easily distinguished from normal objects. Anyone can tell if something is really CG or not. That picture i believe is a fake. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Right then. Tell me which shots Ewan McGregor is digital in in Episode 2. Go on, tell me. Watch it 4 times. You'd be amazed at all the times you thought he was real.
  • GnatsumGnatsum Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10566Members
    If i could i'd buy the movie go to your house get a seat on the couch and show you right then and there which scenes were real and which were real.

    But this is the internet and i only really remember the fight scene in the stadium and thats the scene that everyone knows right and its very obvious he was in freakin 3d so hmpf!
  • yoda_143yoda_143 Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18074Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--wizard@psu+Jul 10 2003, 02:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wizard@psu @ Jul 10 2003, 02:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Links and pics of project Orion.

    <a href='http://www.islandone.org/Propulsion/ProjectOrion.html' target='_blank'>Project Orion History</a>

    <a href='http://www.angelfire.com/on2/daviddarling/OrionProj.htm' target='_blank'>Orion, Project</a>
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    and they covered the story up by telling it was a search for planets <a href='http://history.nasa.gov/SP-436/sp436.htm' target='_blank'>http://history.nasa.gov/SP-436/sp436.htm</a> oh yes they do !
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--TychoCelchuuu+Jul 11 2003, 01:29 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Jul 11 2003, 01:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Darkbolt101+Jul 10 2003, 07:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darkbolt101 @ Jul 10 2003, 07:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ok look that 3d boy IS faek.  Real 3d objects and people can be easily distinguished from normal objects.  Anyone can tell if something is really CG or not.  That picture i believe is a fake. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Right then. Tell me which shots Ewan McGregor is digital in in Episode 2. Go on, tell me. Watch it 4 times. You'd be amazed at all the times you thought he was real. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    a picture is different than a fast-paced action passage from a movie.

    It can be distinguished, but if it's well done then it would be very hard. You can still see on this picture that it is a CG. But isn't that done by a single person? Imagine possible qualities when it's done with much better equipment, time and professional handling.
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