Lerkers Represent!
briDge
Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17583Members
Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17583Members
<div class="IPBDescription">2.0 changes...</div> of all the Kharaa lifeforms, lerking is definitely my favorite. So many people think the lerk is just a support lifeform good for just one thing - umbra. Spikes however pack quite a punch, and most marines just aren't used to them and are often confused when getting hit from a distance with no trace of a sound.
Anyways, I'm wondering what the lerksters here think about the changes to the lerk that will be coming in 2.0. I'll post my thoughts later.
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Anyways, I'm wondering what the lerksters here think about the changes to the lerk that will be coming in 2.0. I'll post my thoughts later.
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Comments
Although primal scream spikes....that is scary.
Wow! It suddenly just clicked! I got all 4 of them just flying around spiking, and 1 from bite as he ran out of ammo entirely I think, and pulled out a knife to try and finish the hive (it was down to below 500). I got him too :-0
Lerked more after that, quite succesful quite fun. I'm sad to see bite go, but I think ranged umbra makes up for it. And as long as I get my new friends the spikes...
Sure you shouldn't care about kills but you shouldn't forget and you cannot deny that killing makes you happy. If you say: yah but clans yadayada for your team yadayada. Maybe that's true, but I'm very sure it will affect clan-play too, as like atm no one in a clan wants to guard the base. Well we'll see how it turns out...
I didn't think the l'il guy had it in him...
Primal Screech doesn't have that same ring to it, though...
Yeah-I was thinking along the lines of the crazy 'Swooping bird of death harpy-like scream,' instead of the beastly please-don't-hurt-me Primal scream that we at the present (sorta) use.
Sure you shouldn't care about kills but you shouldn't forget and you cannot deny that killing makes you happy. If you say: yah but clans yadayada for your team yadayada. Maybe that's true, but I'm very sure it will affect clan-play too, as like atm no one in a clan wants to guard the base. Well we'll see how it turns out... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nobody likes playing a support unit. Why would you "help" and watch others kill stuff when you could be doing it yourself? Kinda like being in base when commander drops HA/HMGs and then staying behind to guard undefended base "just in case nearby skulks rush" when the squad goes to a hive and kicks ***... RT cappers (who do it voluntarily) and base bit**es are a rarity. Let's hope lerk won't become one.
rid the spores, i hate spores, i refuse to use them, so cheap and lame.
"we need a HML over here!"
"HML? WTH?"
"Heavy Machine Lerk"
what about substituting bite with a "rake" attack similar to bite, only that it does less dmg and you can use it only when flying and it does more dmg the more speed you have? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> (ok ok quit joking.)
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I'm sure HOPING that they got a new PS sound
Yeah-I was thinking along the lines of the crazy 'Swooping bird of death harpy-like scream,' instead of the beastly please-don't-hurt-me Primal scream that we at the present (sorta) use. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Its funny how you mention the Onos PS sound because I've completely forgotten what the original sounded like. I got a NS sound replacement pack from planethalflife, and I've replaced nearly all the marine weapon sounds as well as numerous skulk sounds.
Back to the Lerk thing, although bite has brought in kills for the Lerks, I've never been in a game where a Lerk got more kills from bite than spikes. And being a support unit shouldn't be looked down upon, especially when Lerk will have Primal Scream. Primal Scream is an extremely helpful (attack?) that will give yoyr team a great advantage.
I've never been in a game where a Lerk got more kills from bite than spikes. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
then you have never seen a game with a biting lerk player in, when I lerk i usually get something like 30-4 at the end of the round, with 24+ kills with bite, a pair with spikes and the rest skulk bites from before
I'm not praising my own skills, sorry if it seems... :/
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I'm sure HOPING that they got a new PS sound
Yeah-I was thinking along the lines of the crazy 'Swooping bird of death harpy-like scream,' instead of the beastly please-don't-hurt-me Primal scream that we at the present (sorta) use. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Its funny how you mention the Onos PS sound because I've completely forgotten what the original sounded like. I got a NS sound replacement pack from planethalflife, and I've replaced nearly all the marine weapon sounds as well as numerous skulk sounds.
Back to the Lerk thing, although bite has brought in kills for the Lerks, I've never been in a game where a Lerk got more kills from bite than spikes. And being a support unit shouldn't be looked down upon, especially when Lerk will have Primal Scream. Primal Scream is an extremely helpful (attack?) that will give yoyr team a great advantage. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Youve never seen a lerk get more kills with bite. Open your eyeys man, theres some lerks out there that can rack up millions of kills with bite and never have to spit a spike.
And i got nothing against primal scream. I want gas to go. I hate spores. I really really do hate them.
Me too. I find them dishonorable.
Spikes are great for large areas (refinery hive, viaduct, etc), but they're just not as fun to use.
And spores, well, they're just boring.
I think Flayra should do another poll on this - there are a lot of great lerk biters out there (Frost? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->), and it would be a shame to see such a great ability be removed.
And now for the clickable smiley... <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif'><!--endemo-->
Regardless, the more I think about it the more I think lerk bite should not go away. Primal scream seems like a great new ability for the lerk, but bite should stay.
What makes you think that?
I know - I was saying he should do another poll to make sure <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
I only learned how to use a lerk properly in the last few weeks. Needless to say I voted against bite in that poll, because I had no idea of how powerful it was.
Maybe a new poll, and possibly a demo of a lerk taking out a 5 man JP rush, will convince Flayra otherwise.
a civilian:
Spores are cheap and lame because they require so little skill to use - you just point in the general direction of some marines, and fire. They can be fun for getting huge number of kills at once, but generally they're a really boring weapon for both sides.
Spores are cheap and lame because they require so little skill to use - you just point in the general direction of some marines, and fire. They can be fun for getting huge number of kills at once, but generally they're a really boring weapon for both sides.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Perhaps that is the case for 1.04 spores, but with the weakened 2.0 spores I doubt you will be able to get many kills with that method.
Flayra wants Lerks to be a support unit, thats why it has Umbra and Primal Scream. You're gonna find it VERY difficult to fly around the map with the sole purpose of racking up kills.