The Pistol

MrKNifeyMrKNifey Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17668Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Not everyone uses a script</div> Hi, I'm new to these forums, but don't mistake me for a n00b. I've been playing this mod ever since it came out, and I've constantly noticed that EVERYONE always calls me a hacker/scripter whenever I kill them with my pistol. It's not THAT hard to click 10 times in 2 seconds. I have noticed though, that the ROF is a bit FPS dependant, because I have a nice computer and a gimp computer in this room, and I can fire the pistol on the gimp comp about......once every 3 seconds, while on my nice comp I can go and empty my clip in about 2 seconds. Sorry if this has already been discussed or if I'm posting in the wrong forum, but I don't know how to use the search function.....because I'm a n00b here.

The pistol is probably one of the best weapons in the game. Good damage, perfectly accurate and almost no limit to it's ROF, which unfortunately makes it very prone to scripting and such. I like running around with my pistol out first, and pull out my LMG when I run out on the pistol. However, I think the pistol IS maybe a bit too good for being....well...a pistol...and I am glad they are limiting the ROF in 1.1.

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  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    Actually, I've noticed the same thing.

    I use a script sometimes, and when I'm running at low FPS because of my junky computer, the script barely even seems to help. I have it set to a 6 round burst, and sometimes it will only register three or so, and do them very slowly at that.
  • XCanXCan Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5904Members, Constellation
    The pistol is rediculessly overpowered at long range. I've been a lerk just looking out of a vent at 1 marine on the other side of Waste and been what it seems instakilled by some kind of railgun. I also have done it, it's just silly, the pistol fires as fast as a SMG but with full accuracy....
  • V_MANV_MAN V-MAN Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6217Members, Constellation
    I use my mouse wheel for my pistol but it's pointless trying to use it on moving targets cos it's so much harder to aim all it's good for is a camping lerk or a stationary skulk
  • DroopyDaDogDroopyDaDog Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17479Members
    Hehe, I can fire just as fast as any script on a fast computer when I'm prepared, when I sit down to wait and aim I use both hands, one to aim and one to click rather fast (lol I played too many console games that involved fast fast clicking in my formative years)
  • MrKNifeyMrKNifey Join Date: 2003-06-25 Member: 17668Members
    Yeah, some people can just click fast, and if they also have a fast computer that pumps out at least 40 FPS constant no matter what, the pistol is the ultimate pwnage weapon at pretty much any range. I've gotten to the point where I can track my targets as well as shoot them with my pistol. I don't know how, just....practice.....lots and lots.
  • XzilenXzilen Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11642Members, Constellation
    Screw scripts, just use your fingers duff man :-p
  • Misfit1Misfit1 Join Date: 2003-06-26 Member: 17708Members
    I'm on 56k, I've got a mediocre FPS, and I can still drop skulks just fine without a script. 'Nuff said.
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    Meh, I don't really like using a script anyway.

    Just single firing is more effective because you tend to land all your shots rather than blasting off 10 in a rapid movement without being able to compensate for a skulk moving around. The only thing scripts are good for is to pick off a skulk protruding from a doorway or something like that.
  • elchinesetouristelchinesetourist Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17775Members
    edited July 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--XCan+Jun 25 2003, 06:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (XCan @ Jun 25 2003, 06:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The pistol is rediculessly overpowered at long range. I've been a lerk just looking out of a vent at 1 marine on the other side of Waste and been what it seems instakilled by some kind of railgun. I also have done it, it's just silly, the pistol fires as fast as a SMG but with full accuracy.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's lag that is the killer.

    Other than that it's your own inexperience or slow reflexes. Your fault then, too bad <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Unless he actually scripted, but trust me, *NOBODY* scripts. Of *COURSE* people try it for fun, but, as it's so easy to catch and NS is heavily adminned, and as it doesn't really give an advantage, no one dares.

    To clarify: **** players might want to script, but then they will be kicked/banned. Good players won't get much advantage from a script anyway, and then they will still be kicked/banned.

    So trust me, NOBODY scripts, and read and believe these reasons and understand why not.

    -====/>
    Now as for mousewheel, it doesn't give much advantage to good players either. The thing is tho, the better you are, the greater advantage it gives you, so it is worthless to a newbie (even if he learns fast and is good, but hey, he was still a newbie and then he became good and as soon as he's good he's no longer a newbie so who cares). So mousewheel is pretty ****.

    I have mentioned some things which I have not explicitly explained. Well, if you need such explanation, consider these statements:

    Pistol script = railgun

    You could slow it down probably, I have not tried it, but then it'd be worthless.
    NOTE #1: There *IS* a delay between the bullets but effectively there is no difference between all bullets at once and all bullets scripted, it is beyond human reaction time even if you can feel the space between the bullets.
    NOTE #2: You could slow it down to be un pistol scriptish but then it'd be mousewheelish, which as you'll see is a big NO NO. You could slow it down a little bit more but then it'd be fast clickish, and you might not be detected, and this is probably the best way to go if you are scripting, but I still think it's **** since it's very easy to click the mouse fast enough anyway, the legit way, not hard for any good player, and you are just a poser if you script. You might as well just learn to click fast.
    NOTE #3: If you barely slowed it, so that it's still faster than mousewheel, you are dumb, cuz you'll still be kicked and now it's not even a good railgun.

    Now, NOBODY ever railguns. Therefore no script, unless mousewheel wannabe / fastclick wannabe.

    Mousewheel = ****
    It is slightly faster than fast clicking, and takes less skill. It will still be wasted if you are newbie tho, since you will just miss. That is why it takes a good player to utilize it.

    It gives an unfair advantage in good player vs good player tho, assuming the player who mousewheels is used to it and good with it. That is the main thing wrong with mousewheel, it's not very accepted cuz it's poser and because it's not very accepted not everyone uses it, and if not everyone uses it the person who does use it has an unfair advantage.
  • GeronimoGeronimo Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11056Members
    how do one sit and aim, using both hands on mouse?

    anyway; I dont think the pistol is that good, since you cant aim at a moving target, which the aliens are very good at doing...however, it should have a shorter range...say 50 metres or something...pinpointing something across refinery that a HMG wouldnt even hit is just silly...
  • p4lp4l Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17461Members
    I don't know... in general I've been having nice luck spraying LMG and finished the skulk/s off with my pistol as they close in. Pistol is QUITE powerful. I also get alot of "WTH..."s. But my lack of skill in other places shows I'm no cheater ;-)
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