Beautiful And Ugly

kidakida Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13778Members
edited June 2003 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">ya, you heard it</div> As me and my buds are preparing to play street hockey, a young gal walks by on the sidewalk in front of my garage, so my friend, who we will call friend 1, says to us, "she is ugly, man, look at her waist, she is to big.." Then friend 2 says, "what are you talking about! she is fine" and friend 3 finally says, "uh, yeah, ok". We all start to argue and kabamm, what da ya know? We are all argueing over the most stupidest thing..

The media has drastically effected the way we think about what is beautiful and what isn't. All I have to do is grab a girl mag like cosmo and say to myself, "WOWZERS, I want to have sex with that girl on the cover,"
(not literaly). But the reality is I won't and so what do I do? Fantisize..heh..

So what is beauty? Is it truly in the eye of the beholder? Are looks more important than personality? How shallow can you get? Would you dump your girlfriend if her face got burned in a fire? All of these questions are hinting towards something and I am pretty sure you can guess it.

I wish we could learn to treat every human with equal respect and view things that are ugly as beautiful. I have seen people been hurt and I know everyone of us has been effected one way or another by this issue of beauty or ugly.

I am really confused on this topic as for I see that in this world beautiful people are more sucessful than ugly people. It just traveled to my mind recently and I guess the truth is reality.

Plz post your thoughts...
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  • SkinnYSkinnY Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7500Members
    It's only human to judge by looks, everybody does it, and most ppl like pretty things so it's only natural that ppl help pretty ppl rather then ugly ppl....
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  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    As stated before... I like a girl's personality most. Then they must be Cute, not Hot, Gorgeous, Model type. Someone Cute suites me. And I think I have a different taste then most guys... maybe that's why I've never had a Girl Friend?
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  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    Everyone knows that the media has controlled what the public views as "attractive" and "beautiful" for a very long time. However, in each generation there is a group that decides to reject that standard. Beatnicks, hippies, punks, etc. Although most people will tell you that what's outside is not important, they are just fooling themselves and when pressed they will rebeal how shallow they are. Personally I consider myself to be the opposite of this, and believe me, I've caught hell for it. My first girlfriend (I believe I've shown her picture up here at some point) was a big girl, I won't lie to you, and I never denied that when people would point it out me as if I had never noticed it myself. Many people seemed to think that by pointing this out to me I would realize the error of my ways and immediately go out and get a more classically attractive girl. That struck me as odd, these people weren't purposefully trying to make fun of me or her (although there were some peple who insisted on cracking fat jokes at me which ticked me off to no end until I realized that most of the people making fun of me had no girlfriend themselves), they genuinely could not understand why I would go out with someone THEY did not find attractive to the eye. This just goes to show you exactly how ingrained in the common psyche this image is.

    Sorry about all that text, I'm in kind of a philosophical mood today.
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  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    i say jsut go with personal taste, so what if your friend thinks shes ugly? he isnt the one dating her.

    personally i like small girls. i was drooling over this 5' girl with spiky blue hair and my friends thought i had gone crazy!
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  • BlaqWolfBlaqWolf Join Date: 2002-10-28 Member: 1667Members
    yeah, i don't think there's a way you can really help it. guys instinctively are drawn to more attractive girls. there are a lot of guys tho that have learned to fight that instinct and be the better man, seperating beauty from personality, but there are a lot more who are just led by their body's ways.

    i myself, try to seperate it. but i can't help being attracted to... um... attractive... girls. i like a girl myself that has a great personality (no, i have not given up on her <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> ), but she is also pretty dog gone cute if i say so myself.

    but then again, not everyone thinks so... that's funny isn't it? how a girl can be cute in one guy's eyes, and then can be a complete horror to behold in the line of sight to another. weird.

    okay i'm rambling. time to stop.

    oh yeah, Zel, you're crazy.
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  • Dr_ShaggyDr_Shaggy Join Date: 2002-09-26 Member: 1340Members, Constellation
    /me skips to end of thread to show off new avatar

    Okay gents, lemme tell you a secret: Find yourself a girl thats just hot enough to turn you on. Much more than that and they're trouble. Also another tip, when you feel like purchasing a bunch of roses, only buy one. She'll be just as happy as if you bought a dozen.

    This info can never be released to the female population.
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  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    edited June 2003
    Well I'll go a little more general here and talk about society's view on this matter. It's quite obvious that popular culture is obsessed with look and is shallow, but not only is this a shallow view it's also one that's detremental to our culture. I'll focus on two popular mediums of entertainment to illustrate my point. In the music industry any band that makes it to the "big time" usually has a look that can be marketed to the general public and the music (especially in the pop genre) sometimes takes a backseat, so there can be a great sounding band with original lyrics and a wonderful sound but they will never get picked up because their lead singer doesn't look good without his shirt on and they wouldn't make a good music video. The movie industry is of course notorious for its focus on looks and the talent of the actor or actress is usually overlooked if they don't have an attractive apperance so someone may be able to give an amazing performance but will never get a leading role because he's overweight or because she has an A cup and a bad complexion.


    Sad but true.
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  • ka0ska0s Join Date: 2003-04-19 Member: 15657Members
    Basiclly it is all sterotypical things that the media has placed on the listeners and veiwers. Once it is their in your mind it is really hard to get it ou, only after seeing some sort of break down will you finally break that habbit of the evil media corporation. Like lets say you thought the Hulk was hot. Many would definatly detest to that opinion, some would even fight physically over this facter pertaining to looks. YOu know what I forgot what I was blabing about so I am gunna go see the Hulk now <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
    Every woman I think is attractive everyone else thinks is too plain <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> Kirsten Dunst and that girl who played Amelie are possibly the only actresses I have ever found really attractive... oh yes, and redheads! w00t 4 r3dh34dz!!!! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    On the non-actress front, Petra Verkaik is sexy in a 'Are those real?!!' kind of way <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • Chopper_Dave1Chopper_Dave1 Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2353Members
    I'll be interested in any girl I find attractive. Attractiveness doesn't have to derive from beauty - it's just the most readily apparent thing you see in a girl you don't know =). I can just as easily become as attracted to the not-so-pretty girl, as long as she has an incredible personality. So, in other words, I don't look for girls purely for personality's sake, because that's really just naive. You can enjoy a girl for her personality all you want, but if you don't want to have sex with her, than it's just not going to work out in the end. I learned that from a failed relationship of my own, and by watching the relationships of my friends areound me.

    So, basically, to each their own. If you can be attracted to someone society hasn't brainwashed you too, kudos to that. If you aren't, then someone else probably is - don't worry about it to much. Having preferences isn't shallow, it's human.

    BTW, I suspect the music industry will be collapsing upon itself soon. MP3's havent done the final blow, yet, but the music industry is losing more and more money due to their own incompetence and because more people are using share clients like Kazaa. Sue all they want, but for every company they bring down, another 5 will spring up. It's just a matter of time before CD's just din't turn a profot anymore. Don't think the same thing wil happen to movies though, even with the advent of Bittorent. There's a certain allure to going to the theater (especially the IMAX) when it comes to seeing movies. I'll bet they'll start having trouble selling DVD's in the near future, though.
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