Rk95

Darkkiz

Oke, so i made another model. It's a Sako Rk95. I have all the animations and such ready (no proper skin yet). But there's one annoying problem: It has too many polygons. I have no idea how to drop the polycount, and the model is kinda simple.

HKK

Delete the back faces ?

Jezpuh

Yep, and some parts you'll never see in FPS mode, like the other side.

Darkkiz

I've almost deleted the whole gun <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> only left barrel and handle. It still complains that there are too many normals. Is normal a same thing as a polygon? I'm not very pro in modeling =)

Darkkiz

I figured what the problem was. It was my overdetailed sight <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> . Now, can someone tell me how to skinmesh. Everything else works, it has working anims and works ingame too. I'm using a placeholder skin assigned in 3dsmax, so it's out of place and it's an ak47 skin. Only thing missing is a proper skin.

HKK

abit off topic, but can you model arms and hands?

Darkkiz

No, but i can change 'em =) Those are default cs arms.

HKK

Ahh ok, ive been wating to get into modeling for a while and i final got g-max so i want to 'try' and make some uber high poly hands with some nice gloves, like the cz hands.

Darkkiz

So, anyone knows how to skinmesh? <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

Darkkiz

So, the model was filled with bugs. Especially noticeable ingame, so i've started to make a new one.

Darkkiz

Here's the pic. I've redone the receiver, foregrip and the back sight.

I'll propably make the buttstock folded to give it more gangsta style =)(really because u can't see it ingame.)

CaptainPanaka

polycount? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

Darkkiz

Little over 1000, so it's kinda lowpoly <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

Darkkiz

Here it goes, yes those textures are final <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> (joke).

PFCNublar

! modeler/skinner legend in progress here. That is really nice. but can you animate?

Darkkiz

No, i'm using defaults.

Chem

You can try making the stock solid then carving out the detail with the transparency that valve has so kindly provided. You can probably do this with the sights also

cr3am

The little aiming thing at the back of the gun... i'd move that closer to the front if i were you

Azrael2709

No! Don't make it low detail just because your polycount is too high if you're using milkshape! Heres what you do that I learned from -X-.
1. in a side view of the weapon, select > face and select half of the faces of the gun.
2. Delete selection.
3. Export .smd as something like "base.smd".
4. Undo delete selection and select inverse.
5. Delete selection.
6. Export .smd as something like "rest.smd"
7. Edit QC file so that the garbage that looks like :
{
%something something "base.smd"
}
{
%something something "rest.smd"
}

I don't know exactly the text, but it's where it usually has those squiggly brackets and the title of your reference.smd.
8. Compile QC file and you have a super-high poly model =)

Then again, if you don't use milkshape, this is 100% worthless.
Hope this helps.

Darkkiz

It already has all necessary polygons to make it realistic(Foregrip is being redone =)).


And i'm using 3dsmax <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

Darkkiz

I've been trying to skinmesh this for few hours. Now i know how to do this. I'll post the skinmeshes here tomorrow, so if you'll wanna skin this, it's ok(This includes you, Spawn). I'll prolly make my own skin too, if i'm not too lazy.

Darkkiz

Skinmesh testing. The skin is just a low resolution placeholder skin i did in five minutes.

cr3am

my suggestion still stands... move the aiming thing forward a bit

Darkkiz

Maybe... But that wouldn't be realistic <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

cr3am

<!--QuoteBegin--Darkkiz+Jun 17 2003, 09:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darkkiz @ Jun 17 2003, 09:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Maybe... But that wouldn't be realistic <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
but the point between the back aimer and the front aimer is boring. That would be the one thing that would keep me from using the model... but that's just me

Darkkiz

I'm adding a scope and folding the stock and putting this to aug.

Darkkiz

Oke, here's the skinmeshes(my first ones, so they suck) and a .3ds file. Import the 3ds file in milkshape and export it to a decompiled model's reference smd file. then compile. Enjoy.

Darkkiz

Skinmap number one.

Darkkiz

The textures look kinda blurry ingame, maybe i should brighten the higlights.

HKK

The gun its self looks kinda big, maybe its the size of the screen shot? got a full pic?

Darkkiz

The gun itself is smaller than default ak (that's small). The origins just suck =D haven't changed them yet.