9 alien upgrades?

Pr0phecy · June 2002

i dont get this,what do u guys mean by 9 alien upgrades,it dosent really seem a lot if u only 1 character type

example: everyone will have this

dog <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/pudgy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pudgy:'>
monster <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bob.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':bob:'>
dinosaur <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tiny.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':tiny:'>
god? <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':asrifle:'>

i thought we would b able to choose to what type of creature we wanted

Slycaster · June 2002

By 9 upgrades, flay means for each upgrade chamber, the choices you have for them, such as, increased speed, silent walk, carpace, claoking, etc. There are 3 upgrade chambers, each with 3 upgrades.

Kidzelda · June 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Pr0phecy @ June 28 2002,17:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">dog <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/pudgy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pudgy:'>
monster <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bob.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':bob:'>
dinosaur <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tiny.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':tiny:'>
god? <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':asrifle:'> </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Actually, it goes like this:
<img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bob.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':bob:'> Bob, class one
<img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/pudgy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pudgy:'> Pudgy, class two
Flyer, class three (no smily)
class four is an alien the size of human (name escapes me right now, no smily)
<img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tiny.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':tiny:'> Tiny, class five.
The nine upgrades are just that:upgrades.Stuff like stealth, cloaking, faster speed, and such.Marines are only one class, but upgrade weapons.

coil · June 2002

Correct! There are 3 upgrade chambers: defensive, sensory, and movement. As an alien, you can choose from three options for each upgrade. For instance, the movement chamber allows you to evolve speed, faster energy regen, or silent movement.

Commando · June 2002

Class four is blinky. Run.

Sleepy · June 2002

Damn, thats a lot of upgrades. Can't wait.

biobrain · June 2002

defence sensory and movement? so no offense?

SmokeMasta · June 2002

the players handle most of the offense

coil · June 2002

"Offensive chambers" are turrets. They do not provide any upgrades. You don't need them. (:

Pr0phecy · July 2002

Damn,thx to the half-life i will have to buy it cuz i only have cs retail version...I'm paying 50$ just to play this game so plz dont screw it up <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>...I couda gotten Warcraft3 but instead im getting old half-life thx to you guys n ur amazing looking mod.Thx

oh n i was just making example with my pic.The following is something i made up cuz i was bored

Son of a ##### wont die MMMM yummy
<img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':asrifle:'> <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tiny.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':tiny:'>

Oh and i have some other question for you guys (hehe im paying for half-life so i deserve to be anserd <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

1.How....BIG will the buildings b,and how can it b destroyed

2.How long does it take to build something?

3.Are you guys familiar with the map bunker,in alien vs predator?Its really good.Do you have a map similar to that?

4.This is the worlds most scariest thing that can happen in the game.Spawn killing....
what are you guys doing to prevent this?

i haev more questions but i'll wait

pielemuis · July 2002

you -can- play mods with CS retail

coil · July 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Pr0phecy @ July 02 2002,15:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1.How....BIG will the buildings b,and how can it b destroyed

2.How long does it take to build something?

3.Are you guys familiar with the map bunker,in alien vs predator?Its really good.Do you have a map similar to that?

4.This is the worlds most scariest thing that can happen in the game.Spawn killing....
what are you guys doing to prevent this?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

1. Buildings are approximately the size of a player. Any attack can hurt a building.

2. Build times are generally fairly fast; this is a first person shooter, not a "look at the building and hold "use" game. (:

3. No clue. NS maps are pretty specific in design... each must have 3 hives and one marine start, as well as other requirements. The general theme is near-future sci-fi, emphasis on harsher, more industrial environments like power plants, mines, refinerys, cargo ships, etc.

4. Spawns are fairly protected areas, deep within each team's base. It's very hard to kill someone when they spawn for this reason; if your spawn point is in danger, it usually means you're about to lose. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

As for owning CS instead of HL... I believe if you copy cs.exe and rename it hl.exe (put in your \Half-life\ directory), you can "fool" the game into thinking you have HL installed. I'm not sure if that's the exact procedure; someone else would be able to explain it. It's the same way you get the NSTR2 to work.

CyonPro · July 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Pr0phecy @ July 02 2002,15:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Damn,thx to the half-life i will have to buy it cuz i only have cs retail version...I'm paying 50$ just to play this game so plz dont screw it up <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>...</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Dude, go to some place like Amazon.com.... they have the Game of the Year edition for $29.00 ($21.00 used, but I wouldn't trust those, cuz the person who returned it might still be using the CD-key). Unless for some reason you have no way of buying stuff online.

What kind of place still charges $50 for Half-Life? Is this the Platinum Edition that comes with TFC, CS and all that other junk? Half-life is about $20 where I live.

Pr0phecy · July 2002

wow u guys already answered my thread <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
hmm coil...i think you right,if it works im gonna b so hyped im gonna try to do it now,thx <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

(10 minutes later)

it dosent work <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>
i tried going into my registry n changing stuff but nothin <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('> i think the prgoram reads the the codes inside then updates.oh n i think it costs 25 bucks (happy face...i cant do anymore)...now sad face

thx for everything im sure this is gonna b #1 mod (happy face) hehe

Pr0phecy · July 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (InterFect0r @ July 02 2002,15:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">you -can- play mods with CS retail</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
i can,but some time ago,half-life updated the everything and all the games had to change because the codes changed so everythign change and i now i have to buy half-life,i swear to god this is just a think so the company will get even richer,theres so many people who just bought cs.man i hate sierra (exept for the part it allows the ns mod to go out <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>)

1 more thing,is there anyone who can actually change stuff in the thing so i can fool my pc ?

Pr0phecy · July 2002

damn so many mistakes <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>

<img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/asrifle.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':asrifle:'> <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tiny.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':tiny:'> <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/pudgy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':pudgy:'>

CyonPro · July 2002

I find playing mods off of regular HL retail is much better, because you don't have that lame mock-up of the HL source files that CS comes with; you've got the real, full game.

BTW Prophecy: If you make mistakes in your posts, there is an "edit" button near the top of any post you make. You can use this to change stuff in a post that you've made, instead of having to create a new post with the "fixes".

Legionnaired · July 2002

Now, if the aliens have one of these chambers, do they only use one/three of the upgrades that chamber allows?

Can they make multiple chambers to get, say, all 3 movement upgrades?

Flayra · July 2002

Pr0phecy, NS WILL work with CS retail. MonsieurEvil had to change the installer awhile back to do this, but we plan on supporting it. It shouldn't require renaming any files either.

Freestyler · July 2002

If you think that there are 3 'levels' to each upgrade, depending on how many upgrade chambers of that type there are, then theres a total of 27 alien upgrades.

Pr0phecy · July 2002

hmmm...but...dude i cant update anything <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>
man this sucks
the cheapest half-life costs 60 <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

plz thank future #### for that

Legionnaired · July 2002

Ok, so basicly, each upgrade chamber upgrades one level, with 9 upgrades and 3 lvls an upgrade?

cool, makes sense.

Oh, and Pr0phecy, listen, you just have to find a Retail CS patch, and then the installer for NS will work on your system.

Don't worry.

Pr0phecy · July 2002

ok im trusting you guys,i wont buy it but if it dosent work i'm gonna have to wait 5 months till i get it <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

Sleepy · July 2002

9 upgrades, 3 levels per upgrade ...
Damn, if your on a winning Alien team your HUD is going to be filled with tons of upgrade icon goodness (I wonder if that is apart of the help system and can be disabled?).
<img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>

Legionnaired · July 2002

Well, actually, you should probably only have to have 9 icons, with a little 1,2, or 3 in the corner.

Sgt_X · July 2002

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td><b>Quote</b> (Sleepy @ July 02 2002,13:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">9 upgrades, 3 levels per upgrade ...
Damn, if your on a winning Alien team your HUD is going to be filled with tons of upgrade icon goodness (I wonder if that is apart of the help system and can be disabled?).
<img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Where's this coming from, coil said three upgrade chambers each with three upgrades. There is a possibility (though i don't know) that u can only get 1 upgrade out of each per spawn.

Legionnaired · July 2002

oh, so that's how it's gonna work maybe, ok then.

Elowind · July 2002

well lets do the math, im good at it so ill put it simple

9 upgrades
3, 3, 3 (3 chambers)
3x3x3= 27 combinations
27(combinations) x 3(levels of hives)= 81 combinations-sub1
81 (combinations-sub1) x 5 (classes)- 405

there are 405 ways to play aliens, not including the 100,000s styles that comes with teh players mind

so.... there ya have it, i dont think im missing any variables... correct me if im incorrect (like i need to tell u to do that)

Legionnaired · July 2002

HOLY ####!!!!!!!!!!!!

NICE WORK DEV TEAM!

/me lubs on dev team.

Pr0phecy · July 2002

Shisa... :O
i never looked it that way <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>

coil · July 2002

/me checks the math...

eh, close enough. <img src="http://www.natural-selection.org/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

9 alien upgrades?

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