Sheeny Pheeny Pho Pheeny

JamilJamil Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4829Members
edited June 2003 in NS Customization
No, this isn't a tribute to Sheena.

Maus is probably going to be a little upset when I post this, but I've been trying to get a sheen like effect on the knife with the new transparency dlls. I personally got the idea from the DoD forums from a guy named Podunkian, but Maus said he had the idea first. Even then there is probably somebody out there who figured it out before both of them, so who gives a crap.

This is far from perfect. It actually looks strange, but I'd be interested to hear some opinions and suggestions for improvements.

<span style='color:red'>WARNING:</span>
The idle animations are set to flourish for show. This isn't functional, so backup your default model before installing this. This is not a release.

<a href='http://www3.sympatico.ca/farouq/v_kn.zip' target='_blank'>Download after you've backed up your currentknife</a>




Okay, so. To be able to get feedback, I have to tell people what I did. Basically, this is similar to how cell shading is done. You create a duplicate of the mesh slightly larger than the original so that it overlaps it completely. In cell shading you would flip all the faces now, but instead we don't do that here. We just set a dark chrome like additive texture onto the duplicate. The thing that makes it cool is, the texture is actually set to chrome. So now you've got a translucent chrome like texture over the blade. Then it's a matter of compiling. Nothing really complicated here.

I think I made the duplicate a little thick, but only because I wanted to cover the whole thing. I was being lazy. I could have done a better job, but that would have taken more time. What I'm trying to say is, don't knock it for that, this is only a test.

<img src='http://www3.sympatico.ca/farouq/ns_eclipse0001.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

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  • HKKHKK Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16489Members
    edited June 2003
    Hey its something new, mind if i chnage the idle ?
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  • JamilJamil Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4829Members
    Uh yeah. But lets make a deal. You present some screenshots. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • HKKHKK Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16489Members
    edited June 2003
    here
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  • HKKHKK Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16489Members
    edited June 2003
    And a 2nd

    ::Picture removed::
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  • JamilJamil Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4829Members
    edited June 2003
    Are you sure you even have the transparency dlls? Mine looked white when I was testing it. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->


    DLLs and instructions here:

    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=31664' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...ST&f=19&t=31664</a>
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  • HKKHKK Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16489Members
    edited June 2003
    Well it does sheen in game when its moving and it is black i thought you made it like that :E
    Well i did a quick re-colour of the chrome texture and it came out like this.....

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  • JamilJamil Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4829Members
    edited June 2003
    The way the additive rendering works is it takes the darker colour and makes it more transparent. White would be opaque. What you should actually see is the second layer, which is the original knife blade, which is white.

    HLMV doesn't do transparent rendering yet.

    The chrome effect has always worked in half-life.

    I'm going to turn in now, so you get those dlls working.


    Edit:

    Okay, download those DLLs from the link I posted above and overwrite the existing files of the same name somewhere in your half-life directory. Backup everything. I don't want you blaming me for anything.
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  • HKKHKK Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16489Members
    edited June 2003
    Here i came up with this..

    ::Picture removed::
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  • JamilJamil Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4829Members
    You're still looking at it in HLMV, it won't work. Here, I'll get a screenshot. Maybe this was your clever plot from the beginning? In that case, you have bested me, Spawn! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
    edited June 2003
    Shmeh. I don't mind. Just a little disappointed someone stole my thunder.

    edit: OMG spawn get som dll skills n00b! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • HKKHKK Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16489Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jamil+Jun 17 2003, 10:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jamil @ Jun 17 2003, 10:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You're still looking at it in HLMV, it won't work. Here, I'll get a screenshot. Maybe this was your clever plot from the beginning? In that case, you have bested me, Spawn! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ?? what do you mean it don't work ? it sheens ingame and in hlmv i was only changing it form the black to see what it would look like, thats all.
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  • JamilJamil Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4829Members
    edited June 2003
    Screenshot uptop, that's what it should look like with properly working transparency code. The screenshot takes a little away from it. Because you don't get to see the way the lighting changes as you move around the map.
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  • HKKHKK Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16489Members
    why didn't mine look like that then ? i have all the dll's :S
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  • JamilJamil Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4829Members
    Beats me. Install DoD if you're having that much trouble. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • HKKHKK Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16489Members
    I know why, i have the retail dod, thanks for the comment Maus..... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • IceWolveIceWolve Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7887Members
    What are you using to animate that with spawn?
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  • HKKHKK Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16489Members
    I didn't do it, its jamil's work, and they are the new transparantcy dll's form dod 1.0
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  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
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  • Unreal_PantherUnreal_Panther Join Date: 2003-06-07 Member: 17083Members
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    omg your kidding right man?
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  • IceWolveIceWolve Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7887Members
    I thought you said you were going to reanimate it or something, i know jamil modeled and skined it.
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  • JamilJamil Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4829Members
    That is the default knife. I hacked it to look cooler using the new transparency effects, that's all. The animation there is from the rarely seen 'flourish' animation. Most people probably don't use the knife long enough to see it. It's in the game. Trust me. I didn't do it, and I'm a little disappointed that I have to post this. It's the default knife, people! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • IceWolveIceWolve Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7887Members
    haha i realy dont use hte knife much, i tend to die befor i switch to it and i dont see much of it anywhere else either <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • WindelkronWindelkron Join Date: 2002-04-11 Member: 419Members
    beh, my milkshape is expired, or whatever, can you rerelease this with the normal anims (ie normal idle anim)
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