Y Im Never Buying A Goldfish Again

CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
edited June 2003 in Off-Topic
Unless I decide to go all out and get an aquarium with lots of fish Im not ever going to get single fish and bowl again.

When you have a dog or a cat you can interact with them and play with them (you can even talk to them too).
But not with a gold fish.

Poor gold fish, no wonder they dont live very long. Its like somone taking you from the your friend populated tank at the store to a life in solitary confinement for the rest of your life. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> Id die of depression. Its like how they say never to just leave your dog tied up in the back yard all day alone while you go to work.

I once had a gold fish live for 5 years. Thats really exeptional for a gold fish. In the last days of his fish life he wouldnt eat any fish food we gave him. I think he wanted to die and end it all.

Imagine living 5 years all by yourself in a little jail cell with no other human contact. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

This post may sound stupid too you but think about it really.

I hope hes making lots of fish friends in the place where ever fish go where they die. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> But then again Idont believe in an after life. Dang. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

Comments

  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    Get two beta fish. Then watch their "people skills" <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
    What an odd thing too say....
  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    Meh, I've never bothered to think about a fish's feelings. To me they're only a small step up from plants. You gotta remember that you goldfish isn't sentient and probably can't perceive the passage of time for more than a few seconds.
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--[WHO]Them+Jun 10 2003, 12:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([WHO]Them @ Jun 10 2003, 12:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Meh, I've never bothered to think about a fish's feelings. To me they're only a small step up from plants. You gotta remember that you goldfish isn't sentient and probably can't perceive the passage of time for more than a few seconds. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That brings up a good question, birds live shorter lives then humans but then again every thing they do best example is movment) is faster thena human. So in theory do they perceive time faster then humans. While to them their life is just as "normal" as a day in ours.
    For an example of time perception... from some guys response post.

    " human body is a time-measuring machine. We compare the passage of events with one another and label them comparatively fast or slow. For a child, a day seems to drag on forever. For an old man, the days pass so quickly he wonders where they went. Since they live on the same planet and deal with the same changes in their environments, why are their perceptions so different?

    For a two-year-old child, a year represents half of its life. So waiting for another birthday is like anticipating an event half a lifetime away. For a 70-year-old old man, a year is only one 70th of a lifetime away. His mind is crowded with 70 years of events perceived and thousands upon thousands of things accomplished. He doesn't have enough hours in the day or enough days left in his life to deal with all that's on his plate. So time seems to fly.

    But in objective terms, the days come and go at the same rate they always did. It's just the machine (body) perceiving them that notices a difference. A mechanical clock gives us a more objective comparison because it isn't as strongly influenced by its environment.

    Our perception is due, in part, to complexity. An old man's memory is crowded with events and perceptions that make the process of comparing them complex. Much more so than the mind of a child, who has relatively fewer events in his life and fewer ways of making comparisons. So for the child, the days drag by and for the old man, they fly.
  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    In my opinion, the perception of time is directly related to how much of what's happening around you can be handled by instinct alone.

    If you catch a ball without thinking about it, it just happens. But if you try to catch a falling vase then time passes more slowly because you're forcing yourself to make extra effort beyond instinct alone.

    I believe small animals such as birds rely mostly on instinct. And as far as hummingbirds flapping their wings, I don't think they have to "think" about that at all. Nature has probably provided them with some sort of muscular setup where the flappage is either "on" or "off" with a very small amount of control for movement and such.
  • CowswinCowswin Join Date: 2003-03-17 Member: 14623Banned, Constellation
    Get some Pirahna. If you have rude or moronic house guests, threaten to stick their hand in the tank. Feed fish bloody meat while telling them this.
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--[WHO]Them+Jun 10 2003, 12:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([WHO]Them @ Jun 10 2003, 12:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the flappage is either "on" or "off" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    lol flappage. Good point though very interesting.
  • FireStormFireStorm Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7390Members
    edited June 2003
    I have an aquarium for many years...

    Don't buy gold fishes, thay give a lot of crap <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Buy many fishes and your aquarium will live.

    But don't buy too much either, because you'll have too much baby fishes <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    i had a big tank, and of course every fish dies in about five months, and you get more. but when the tank was down to two of the bigger silver ones, i got a tiny tiny goldfish style tank, a little larger than a thing o milk, and they happily swam in circles for about two years! now only the smaller one is left, (i assume my mom didnt feed em enough for the bigger one to handle while i was away at college) and he has been happily swimming in circles for another six months.

    soemtims i worry he is lonely, till i realize his brain is smaller than a pencil eraser.

    one last note to think about; imagine you were a creature that only lived one year(butterfly for example), born in springtime, grow all summer, make yourself a casket, then hibernate half of your life, to come out as a new creature, mate in spring and then collapse in death.

    you would have no perception of years at all. "middle age" is when it is cold, and old age is when it gets warm again. a butterfly probably things that the universe revolves around his life.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Try getting a few herrings (or is plural of herring also herring?). They are much more sociable (some kinds of herring even like to be picked up and petted, remember fish can survive much longer without breathing than humans can). And if you've got a few, you don't need to worry about 'em feeling lonely.
  • ConfuzorConfuzor Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2412Awaiting Authorization
    I thought goldfish only had a 2 second memory.

    <i>I'm bored and lonely.

    Wait, was I bored, or just lonely?

    Or maybe I was happy.

    Wait, I don't have feelings.

    What was I feeling? Hungry I think.

    Didn't I just eat? Oh well there's stuff coming down.

    Patooie! Those were pebbles I just ate!

    Wait, what did I just spit out?

    Maybe I should eat them again.</i>
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    Fish are the worst pets EVER, they just swim in a stupid tank, and you can't do anything with them!
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    Everyone in my house has allergies But I always wanted a yellow lab dog. Petting your fish isnt the same as petting your dog for some reason lol.


    Also, there was this thing on the discovery channel about how dogs look up to humans and cats look down on us and that research shows that cats (having lived with humans for 10,000 years) have figured out how to manipulate us and our emotions.
  • SaltySalty Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6970Members
    Thats why I eat cats. God dam snoby cats.
    **shakes fist**

    Maybe you could get like a lizard or umpa lumpa. Also if its a solitary animal like certain fish, i don't think they care if they are lonely.
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    edited June 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Salty+Jun 10 2003, 06:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Salty @ Jun 10 2003, 06:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Maybe you could get like a lizard or umpa lumpa. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Lol just what I would need an umpa lumpa for a pet.



    "Oppma lumpa Gobble dee dee, Hey Cpl.Davis you forgot to feed me.

    Oopa Lumpa dobble dee do I really want to freakin kill you. bla bla bl abla"
  • GnatsumGnatsum Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10566Members
    Omg hey almost the exact same thing happened to me too just this past sunday.
    I had this goldfish that lived for a long time. And yeah I do sorta see things i way you do with goldfish Davis.
    Whenever i feed it i kinda really feel sorry for it being stuck in a tiny tank. And yeah mine was already dying, i knew because whenever i fed it it wouldn't eat nothing.

    But anyways...
    I came home this past sunday from bowling and playing snooker and i turn and look at my fish and its limp and doesn't move. So right then and there i realize that its dead.

    The worst part was flushing it down the toilet. 2nd worst was fishing its body out.

    GUh... i'll let the goldfishes play with each other rather then taking one home and slowly torture it to death.
  • BadKarmaBadKarma The Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7 Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8260Members
    edited June 2003
    One goldfish in England lived for 50 years. And goldfish are more like this.

    <i>hey a castle
    hey a castle
    hey a castle
    hey a castle.</i>
  • SaltySalty Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6970Members
    Reminds me of momento.
  • ConfuzorConfuzor Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2412Awaiting Authorization
    edited June 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Also, there was this thing on the discovery channel about how dogs look up to humans and cats look down on us and that research shows that cats (having lived with humans for 10,000 years) have figured out how to manipulate us and our emotions. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    When I was 7, I visited Malaysia, and there were 2 kittens; I think the one I liked more was given away, and the one I liked less was responsible for giving me a tiny scratch that made me beserk and extremely mean to it. When I saw the kitten with its mom sleeping on the chair, I quickly took the couch cushion, place it on top of the cats, and sit down on it. I was only seven at the time, so I shouldn't of weighed THAT much, and they squirmed out pretty easily.

    <b>MANIPULATE THAT, ****!</b>

    I returned to Malaysia at the age of fourteen thinking I had the animal cruelty tendencies out of me. How wrong I was... I think the mother was just very protective of her kittens and managed to train her kittens to hate me. And for good reason! Hostilities led to hostilities, and I fought back to their aggressiveness; atrocities included "jailing" one in a fruit basket; a much more scarier situation occurred, and I regret, is I somehow drove outside, where it came face to face with what I considered the fattest, and top dog in the hierarchy of canines that also lived around the house. The kitten hissed at the dog, and the dog got extremely **** and proceeded to bark at the kitten. The mother promptly came to hiss the dog away and lead the kitten back indoors.

    <b>MANIPULATE THAT, ****!</b>

    Thinking about it now, I scare myself. They say the way you treat animals shows something about how you treat people. The worst thing I've ever done was shoot a sparrow with a super soaker (the really weak one, original 50) from my plum tree. There's one which I shot, but didn't fly away, so I started to get a little worried. I then either picked it up from the branch, or it jumped down, and when I came down to take it, it didn't really resist and simply perched on to my thumb. At this point, I'm kind of freaked, because this is obviously a very young bird, and I remember reading if adults detect human scent on their kids, they'll abandon them (which is odd, since taking biology right now, I learned birds have a pretty poor sense of smell). Well I brought the bird in, thinking I might end up being the new parent, but my dad said to just put it back (not because he cared, he just didn't want to deal with animals in the house because I and my sister have always been considered hell enough for him), so I went back to the tree and thrust my thumb up a bit to get it to fly up a bit and perch back on the plum tree. My dad later said another bird (presumeably the parent) came and that bird and the one I drenched flew away.

    The worst thing I ever do nowadays is chase crows, which is ironic, because recently I've been interested in taming a crow. Not to keep, but tame enough that if I stepped outside, I could call and it would perch on my shoulder. They're smart birds, their vocal range can actually let them imitate speech to a certain degree, and to my surprise, if you give food to birds, they actually don't bully smaller birds away.
    Oh yeah, when they attack, they go for the eyes., muhuhahahaha!

    - Probably not going to happen, but I like to imagine...
  • AgentOrangeAgentOrange Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9244Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--[WHO]Them+Jun 10 2003, 12:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([WHO]Them @ Jun 10 2003, 12:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Meh, I've never bothered to think about a fish's feelings. To me they're only a small step up from plants. You gotta remember that you goldfish isn't sentient and probably can't perceive the passage of time for more than a few seconds. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Holy **** dude! I'd NEVER make a plant spend it's days alone. One, is the lonliest number. Having lots of fish is really cool though, I could watch them swim around for hours. Ever hear of a cowfish? Sooooo coooool.
  • BadKarmaBadKarma The Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7 Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8260Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--@gentOrange+Jun 10 2003, 07:10 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (@gentOrange @ Jun 10 2003, 07:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> One, is the lonliest number. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Two, can be as bad as one it's the loneliest number since the number one.
  • BadKarmaBadKarma The Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7 Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8260Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Confuzor+Jun 10 2003, 07:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Confuzor @ Jun 10 2003, 07:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->

    Thinking about it now, I scare myself. They say the way you treat animals shows something about how you treat people. The worst thing I've ever done was shoot a sparrow with a super soaker. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I hunt, should I commence shooting people now or later?
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