<!--QuoteBegin--::esuna::+Jun 9 2003, 05:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (::esuna:: @ Jun 9 2003, 05:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Jun 9 2003, 05:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jun 9 2003, 05:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And Stabby resorted to making new accounts, a deadly manuver indeed, how will Esuna recover? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes, i've already reported the topic. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ok, that is not my account, some1 who just agrees with me
the mods can check my ip and see that it is not my account!
<!--QuoteBegin--Mr-Stabby+Jun 9 2003, 05:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr-Stabby @ Jun 9 2003, 05:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--::esuna::+Jun 9 2003, 05:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (::esuna:: @ Jun 9 2003, 05:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Jun 9 2003, 05:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jun 9 2003, 05:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And Stabby resorted to making new accounts, a deadly manuver indeed, how will Esuna recover? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes, i've already reported the topic. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> ok, that is not my account, some1 who just agrees with me
the mods can check my ip and see that it is not my account! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm just doing play by play, leave me out of this.
oh yes my mistake not like you can clone IP's or hop proxies or anything.
<!--QuoteBegin--its me :D+Jun 9 2003, 06:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (its me :D @ Jun 9 2003, 06:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its me you pr1ck not stabby as he said someone who agree's ... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> yup, infact that is my friend mike off MSN, who registered after i told him about it
he odviously felt like you needed telling ur place
<!--QuoteBegin--Mr-Stabby+Jun 9 2003, 05:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr-Stabby @ Jun 9 2003, 05:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> listen m8, u think i was insulting you, well you sorta started it saying that my animation was poor! I spent 2 days making that, and i'm sure you have no idea how to make a flash animation and therefore do not realise the work that goes into it
and don't say well im sure the original took time to make too, because I know, and thats why I HAVE CREDITED THEM FOR THEIR WORK, TWICE ON THE SAME PAGE!
So why should I take your comments seriously if you start by insulting me and just being uptight about the whole thing. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'll ask you now. Have you ever had your work stolen by other people? I doubt it.
I can guarentee you both weebl and joel spent more time on the original animations and more time on concepts than you spent on your entire animation.
And finally, i +am+ a professional and freelance web designer, yes, i know how to use flash. Yes i know the work that goes into +real+ animation. You didn't actually do any animation, so to speak. The only bit of animation that looks as clean as the "Mr Stabby" character was stolen straight from the original (the rocking one for the loading animation). Do not attempt to beat me down with your "superior" knowledge, take into account you are not the be all and end all of flash animation.
Well I in my opinion I thought it was pretty good. Considering all the factors involved it was a good effort. I also don't really see how it is stealing and like stabby said he knows about copywrite laws so he wouldnt have done it otherwise.
<!--QuoteBegin--Mr-Stabby+Jun 9 2003, 06:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr-Stabby @ Jun 9 2003, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--its me <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->+Jun 9 2003, 06:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (its me <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> @ Jun 9 2003, 06:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its me you pr1ck not stabby as he said someone who agree's ... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> yup, infact that is my friend mike off MSN, who registered after i told him about it
he odviously felt like you needed telling ur place <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Dr.d, scratch me up another point. At least i don't need to get my friends involved with my own battles. I'm at least mature enough to handle myself.
<!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Jun 9 2003, 06:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jun 9 2003, 06:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And stabby is using the double up posts by the same person tactic, desperate but it could just work.
Esuna is going in for the kill using logic and reasoning....let's see what happens. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> what the hell are you talking about
<!--QuoteBegin--::esuna::+Jun 9 2003, 06:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (::esuna:: @ Jun 9 2003, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Mr-Stabby+Jun 9 2003, 05:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr-Stabby @ Jun 9 2003, 05:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> listen m8, u think i was insulting you, well you sorta started it saying that my animation was poor! I spent 2 days making that, and i'm sure you have no idea how to make a flash animation and therefore do not realise the work that goes into it
and don't say well im sure the original took time to make too, because I know, and thats why I HAVE CREDITED THEM FOR THEIR WORK, TWICE ON THE SAME PAGE!
So why should I take your comments seriously if you start by insulting me and just being uptight about the whole thing. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'll ask you now. Have you ever had your work stolen by other people? I doubt it.
I can guarentee you both weebl and joel spent more time on the original animations and more time on concepts than you spent on your entire animation.
And finally, i +am+ a professional and freelance web designer, yes, i know how to use flash. Yes i know the work that goes into +real+ animation. You didn't actually do any animation, so to speak. The only bit of animation that looks as clean as the "Mr Stabby" character was stolen straight from the original (the rocking one for the loading animation). Do not attempt to beat me down with your "superior" knowledge, take into account you are not the be all and end all of flash animation. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> yeah mate whatever! your superior knowledge is bollox why are ya starting on someone who is just tring to have a laugh is he selling it? no are you selling it? no is your mum selling it ? yes
<!--QuoteBegin--::esuna::+Jun 9 2003, 06:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (::esuna:: @ Jun 9 2003, 06:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Mr-Stabby+Jun 9 2003, 06:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr-Stabby @ Jun 9 2003, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--its me <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->+Jun 9 2003, 06:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (its me <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> @ Jun 9 2003, 06:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> its me you pr1ck not stabby as he said someone who agree's ... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> yup, infact that is my friend mike off MSN, who registered after i told him about it
he odviously felt like you needed telling ur place <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dr.d, scratch me up another point. At least i don't need to get my friends involved with my own battles. I'm at least mature enough to handle myself.
So that's what, 2 - 1 to me? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> lol, a battle
you sound like a kid m8....lol fookin battle, now who is the immature one
you sound like a spoilt child m8, im sorry but you have some serious issues
<i>Diplomat butts into hot disputes, presuming that the combatants will welcome and appreciate his even-handed and eminently reasonable mediation. Frankly, he gets what he deserves.. </i>
Just trying to extract the information out of the spam in this topic;
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Mr.Stabby Character and Animation Originally by Weebl<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Okay Stabby, you acknowledge that they were originally done by Weebl, but I'm confused; what exactly did you do yourself in that animation?
<!--QuoteBegin--DuBERS+Jun 9 2003, 06:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DuBERS @ Jun 9 2003, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well I in my opinion I thought it was pretty good. Considering all the factors involved it was a good effort. I also don't really see how it is stealing and like stabby said he knows about copywrite laws so he wouldnt have done it otherwise. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I would have +absolutely+ no grudge if he had emailed the original creators before and got clearance to do this. Having spoke to them both before i know about 99% sure they'd allow him to use the character, and probably send some original flash documents over to make sure the quality was up to scratch. They are great guys. But i'm willing to bet he's not even told them he's used their characters. Linking is one thing, yeah, that's all well and good if you're just leeching text or whatever, but stealing someones artistic creations is something else entirely. It's not a case of law, or who can sue who, it's a case of morality and giving credit where it's due.
I'll put it simply, if you took a priceless painting, stuck your name all over it, but gave a quick credit to the original artist, is that theft or justified?
the stabby picture himself was used, but EVERYTHING else in there is my own work
i did all the screenshots of the game, including barney which i took a screenshot of and took out the background, the logo i did, EVERYTHING I DID except the actual stabby drawing
you sound like a kid m8....lol fookin battle, now who is the immature one
you sound like a spoilt child m8, im sorry but you have some serious issues <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm only 20, yes.
And both you and your "friend" might be advised to stop avoiding the swear filter.
And yes i was a spoilt child, i'm glad of it, being spoilt means i got more than any of you poor unfortunate brats.
the stabby picture himself was used, but EVERYTHING else in there is my own work
i did all the screenshots of the game, including barney which i took a screenshot of and took out the background, the logo i did, EVERYTHING I DID except the actual stabby drawing
so whats ur point <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> And you spent 2 days drawing one mediocre background and taking screen shots. Oh, and putting in an image transition.
Are you on a different planet, or are we actually talking about 2 whole earth rotations, as in 48 hours to do 30mins work?
you sound like a kid m8....lol fookin battle, now who is the immature one
you sound like a spoilt child m8, im sorry but you have some serious issues <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm only 20, yes.
And both you and your "friend" might be advised to stop avoiding the swear filter.
And yes i was a spoilt child, i'm glad of it, being spoilt means i got more than any of you poor unfortunate brats. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> with your frankly freakish hair cuts and metal thru your head, i don't think your parents did their job properly m8
the stabby picture himself was used, but EVERYTHING else in there is my own work
i did all the screenshots of the game, including barney which i took a screenshot of and took out the background, the logo i did, EVERYTHING I DID except the actual stabby drawing
so whats ur point <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> And you spent 2 days drawing one mediocre background and taking screen shots. Oh, and putting in an image transition.
Are you on a different planet, or are we actually talking about 2 whole earth rotations, as in 48 hours to do 30mins work? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> you have odviously never done flash animation mate, if you actually bothered to LOOK at the animation, theres a lot more than you think
you sound like a kid m8....lol fookin battle, now who is the immature one
you sound like a spoilt child m8, im sorry but you have some serious issues <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm only 20, yes.
And both you and your "friend" might be advised to stop avoiding the swear filter.
And yes i was a spoilt child, i'm glad of it, being spoilt means i got more than any of you poor unfortunate brats. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> with your frankly freakish hair cuts and metal thru your head, i don't think your parents did their job properly m8 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> My parents brought me up to express myself, not let others hold me down, stand up for what i believe in, and most of all not give a **** for what other people say.
They support my every decision knowing i am an adult and can make my own decisions.
I'm glad i was brought up open-minded.
And as an afterthought, you get many facial piercings and dye your hair red, if you survive one freaking day without having things thrown at you, verbal abuse wherever you go and get looked down upon. After going years like that myself, i'm a stronger person, i'd +love+ to see someone like you survive a day without cracking.
Much blows being exchanged, Stabby working with self justification Esuna doing a good job foiling him, Esuna is working well within the limits of concise arguments working with one issue to drive his points, how long will Stabby hold out?
Ideas of self-expresion hopping from simple flash animation to body modification, this is a broad duel indeed.
the stabby picture himself was used, but EVERYTHING else in there is my own work
i did all the screenshots of the game, including barney which i took a screenshot of and took out the background, the logo i did, EVERYTHING I DID except the actual stabby drawing
so whats ur point <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> And you spent 2 days drawing one mediocre background and taking screen shots. Oh, and putting in an image transition.
Are you on a different planet, or are we actually talking about 2 whole earth rotations, as in 48 hours to do 30mins work? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> you have odviously never done flash animation mate, if you actually bothered to LOOK at the animation, theres a lot more than you think
don't talk about things you have NO IDEA about <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Really, lol.
You should possibly admit that you have been found out on this one. I've been doing flash animation for several years now. Maybe you're not good enough to do something like that under an hour, but i know i am, as are a great number of other people. Infact anyone who's just installed the trial version after 5 minutes probably knows more than you do.
I mean, damn, come on, where was the basic loading information and so on. The first thing you should know is +never+ use excessive amounts of animation or sounds during the loading process (which you did) since that slows the loading of the overall piece. Nub caek.
<!--QuoteBegin--dr.d+Jun 9 2003, 06:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (dr.d @ Jun 9 2003, 06:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Much blows being exchanged, Stabby working with self justification Esuna doing a good job foiling him, Esuna is working well within the limits of concise arguments working with one issue to drive his points, how long will Stabby hold out? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> this is nothing to do with you!!
hmm you say you don't give a damn about what any1 else says, well i'll follow your advice m8, i dont care what you say sorry, but your general uptightness have given me no respect of what you think at all!
And as for all this sob story you are givin me about what you've had to deal with. If you didn't look like that you wouldn't get all this rubbish. Some people can't control how they look, you can!
Now im ending this conversation, because frankly you are boring me now
and also, who needs a loading page when it takes half a second to load, and i don't care about 56k users
Right conversation over, don't make me get a magnet
you sound like a kid m8....lol fookin battle, now who is the immature one
you sound like a spoilt child m8, im sorry but you have some serious issues <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm only 20, yes.
And both you and your "friend" might be advised to stop avoiding the swear filter.
And yes i was a spoilt child, i'm glad of it, being spoilt means i got more than any of you poor unfortunate brats. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> with your frankly freakish hair cuts and metal thru your head, i don't think your parents did their job properly m8 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> My parents brought me up to express myself, not let others hold me down, stand up for what i believe in, and most of all not give a **** for what other people say.
They support my every decision knowing i am an adult and can make my own decisions.
I'm glad i was brought up open-minded.
And as an afterthought, you get many facial piercings and dye your hair red, if you survive one freaking day without having things thrown at you, verbal abuse wherever you go and get looked down upon. After going years like that myself, i'm a stronger person, i'd +love+ to see someone like you survive a day without cracking. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> oh this is great, i do have to say tho dude, you do seem to be going over your station a wee be, DEUS.org your calling your website GOD.org! come on!!! and dude, you say you trying doing that with hair and shite. i have a oragne wave down my head, and dress like a cyber kid!!!! all i seem to get is praise!! your jus freak that seems to be taking things wee bit to far, come on, he gave credit where it was due, he state that weeb made it.
yes i know what i'm on about!!! i also am a member of b3ta, but i dont see what that has todo with anythign oh yeah, im on the same IP range as stabbers, but i'm not him,
<!--QuoteBegin--Mr-Stabby+Jun 9 2003, 06:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr-Stabby @ Jun 9 2003, 06:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And as for all this sob story you are givin me about what you've had to deal with. If you didn't look like that you wouldn't get all this rubbish. Some people can't control how they look, you can! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If i didn't look like this i wouldn't be who i am today. And i love who i am today, i'm happy, i'm +very+ happy. And content with my surroundings and situations.
The "abuse" i've recieved throughout the entirity of my childhood has done nothing but made me a stronger, more open-minded, and a better person.
Some people could use that sort of experience to make them wake up and realise the world isn't so 2 dimensional.
hey i got a math for ya pink hair+earings+**** head attitude + reckons he has a girlfriend but dont = **** **** who should go off th bed and give himself one off the wrist
<!--QuoteBegin--::esuna::+Jun 9 2003, 06:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (::esuna:: @ Jun 9 2003, 06:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Mr-Stabby+Jun 9 2003, 06:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr-Stabby @ Jun 9 2003, 06:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And as for all this sob story you are givin me about what you've had to deal with. If you didn't look like that you wouldn't get all this rubbish. Some people can't control how they look, you can! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> If i didn't look like this i wouldn't be who i am today. And i love who i am today, i'm happy, i'm +very+ happy. And content with my surroundings and situations.
The "abuse" i've recieved throughout the entirity of my childhood has done nothing but made me a stronger, more open-minded, and a better person.
Some people could use that sort of experience to make them wake up and realise the world isn't so 2 dimensional. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> mate, STOP GIVING ME A SOB STORY, I DONT CARE!!!
Comments
Yes, i've already reported the topic. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
ok, that is not my account, some1 who just agrees with me
the mods can check my ip and see that it is not my account!
Yes, i've already reported the topic. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
ok, that is not my account, some1 who just agrees with me
the mods can check my ip and see that it is not my account! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm just doing play by play, leave me out of this.
oh yes my mistake not like you can clone IP's or hop proxies or anything.
And now back to the duel.
yup, infact that is my friend mike off MSN, who registered after i told him about it
he odviously felt like you needed telling ur place
and don't say well im sure the original took time to make too, because I know, and thats why I HAVE CREDITED THEM FOR THEIR WORK, TWICE ON THE SAME PAGE!
So why should I take your comments seriously if you start by insulting me and just being uptight about the whole thing. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'll ask you now. Have you ever had your work stolen by other people? I doubt it.
I can guarentee you both weebl and joel spent more time on the original animations and more time on concepts than you spent on your entire animation.
And finally, i +am+ a professional and freelance web designer, yes, i know how to use flash. Yes i know the work that goes into +real+ animation. You didn't actually do any animation, so to speak. The only bit of animation that looks as clean as the "Mr Stabby" character was stolen straight from the original (the rocking one for the loading animation). Do not attempt to beat me down with your "superior" knowledge, take into account you are not the be all and end all of flash animation.
Esuna is going in for the kill using logic and reasoning....let's see what happens.
yup, infact that is my friend mike off MSN, who registered after i told him about it
he odviously felt like you needed telling ur place <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dr.d, scratch me up another point. At least i don't need to get my friends involved with my own battles. I'm at least mature enough to handle myself.
So that's what, 2 - 1 to me?
Esuna is going in for the kill using logic and reasoning....let's see what happens. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
what the hell are you talking about
and don't say well im sure the original took time to make too, because I know, and thats why I HAVE CREDITED THEM FOR THEIR WORK, TWICE ON THE SAME PAGE!
So why should I take your comments seriously if you start by insulting me and just being uptight about the whole thing. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'll ask you now. Have you ever had your work stolen by other people? I doubt it.
I can guarentee you both weebl and joel spent more time on the original animations and more time on concepts than you spent on your entire animation.
And finally, i +am+ a professional and freelance web designer, yes, i know how to use flash. Yes i know the work that goes into +real+ animation. You didn't actually do any animation, so to speak. The only bit of animation that looks as clean as the "Mr Stabby" character was stolen straight from the original (the rocking one for the loading animation). Do not attempt to beat me down with your "superior" knowledge, take into account you are not the be all and end all of flash animation. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
yeah mate whatever! your superior knowledge is bollox why are ya starting on someone who is just tring to have a laugh is he selling it? no are you selling it? no is your mum selling it ? yes
yup, infact that is my friend mike off MSN, who registered after i told him about it
he odviously felt like you needed telling ur place <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dr.d, scratch me up another point. At least i don't need to get my friends involved with my own battles. I'm at least mature enough to handle myself.
So that's what, 2 - 1 to me? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol, a battle
you sound like a kid m8....lol fookin battle, now who is the immature one
you sound like a spoilt child m8, im sorry but you have some serious issues
While referring to the actual duel as an insult isn't technically a valid tactic it does delay the inevitable, hmm interesting.
<i>Diplomat butts into hot disputes, presuming that the combatants will welcome and appreciate his even-handed and eminently reasonable mediation. Frankly, he gets what he deserves..
</i>
Just trying to extract the information out of the spam in this topic;
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Mr.Stabby Character and Animation Originally by Weebl<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Okay Stabby, you acknowledge that they were originally done by Weebl, but I'm confused; what exactly did you do yourself in that animation?
I would have +absolutely+ no grudge if he had emailed the original creators before and got clearance to do this. Having spoke to them both before i know about 99% sure they'd allow him to use the character, and probably send some original flash documents over to make sure the quality was up to scratch. They are great guys. But i'm willing to bet he's not even told them he's used their characters. Linking is one thing, yeah, that's all well and good if you're just leeching text or whatever, but stealing someones artistic creations is something else entirely. It's not a case of law, or who can sue who, it's a case of morality and giving credit where it's due.
I'll put it simply, if you took a priceless painting, stuck your name all over it, but gave a quick credit to the original artist, is that theft or justified?
the stabby picture himself was used, but EVERYTHING else in there is my own work
i did all the screenshots of the game, including barney which i took a screenshot of and took out the background, the logo i did, EVERYTHING I DID except the actual stabby drawing
so whats ur point
you sound like a kid m8....lol fookin battle, now who is the immature one
you sound like a spoilt child m8, im sorry but you have some serious issues <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm only 20, yes.
And both you and your "friend" might be advised to stop avoiding the swear filter.
And yes i was a spoilt child, i'm glad of it, being spoilt means i got more than any of you poor unfortunate brats.
the stabby picture himself was used, but EVERYTHING else in there is my own work
i did all the screenshots of the game, including barney which i took a screenshot of and took out the background, the logo i did, EVERYTHING I DID except the actual stabby drawing
so whats ur point <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
And you spent 2 days drawing one mediocre background and taking screen shots. Oh, and putting in an image transition.
Are you on a different planet, or are we actually talking about 2 whole earth rotations, as in 48 hours to do 30mins work?
you sound like a kid m8....lol fookin battle, now who is the immature one
you sound like a spoilt child m8, im sorry but you have some serious issues <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm only 20, yes.
And both you and your "friend" might be advised to stop avoiding the swear filter.
And yes i was a spoilt child, i'm glad of it, being spoilt means i got more than any of you poor unfortunate brats. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
with your frankly freakish hair cuts and metal thru your head, i don't think your parents did their job properly m8
i happen to live in jersey m8, it costs £200,000 for a 1 bedroom flat over here, and we live in a 5 bedroom house with 3 floors, so shut the hell up
the stabby picture himself was used, but EVERYTHING else in there is my own work
i did all the screenshots of the game, including barney which i took a screenshot of and took out the background, the logo i did, EVERYTHING I DID except the actual stabby drawing
so whats ur point <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And you spent 2 days drawing one mediocre background and taking screen shots. Oh, and putting in an image transition.
Are you on a different planet, or are we actually talking about 2 whole earth rotations, as in 48 hours to do 30mins work? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
you have odviously never done flash animation mate, if you actually bothered to LOOK at the animation, theres a lot more than you think
don't talk about things you have NO IDEA about
you sound like a kid m8....lol fookin battle, now who is the immature one
you sound like a spoilt child m8, im sorry but you have some serious issues <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm only 20, yes.
And both you and your "friend" might be advised to stop avoiding the swear filter.
And yes i was a spoilt child, i'm glad of it, being spoilt means i got more than any of you poor unfortunate brats. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
with your frankly freakish hair cuts and metal thru your head, i don't think your parents did their job properly m8 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
My parents brought me up to express myself, not let others hold me down, stand up for what i believe in, and most of all not give a **** for what other people say.
They support my every decision knowing i am an adult and can make my own decisions.
I'm glad i was brought up open-minded.
And as an afterthought, you get many facial piercings and dye your hair red, if you survive one freaking day without having things thrown at you, verbal abuse wherever you go and get looked down upon. After going years like that myself, i'm a stronger person, i'd +love+ to see someone like you survive a day without cracking.
Ideas of self-expresion hopping from simple flash animation to body modification, this is a broad duel indeed.
the stabby picture himself was used, but EVERYTHING else in there is my own work
i did all the screenshots of the game, including barney which i took a screenshot of and took out the background, the logo i did, EVERYTHING I DID except the actual stabby drawing
so whats ur point <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And you spent 2 days drawing one mediocre background and taking screen shots. Oh, and putting in an image transition.
Are you on a different planet, or are we actually talking about 2 whole earth rotations, as in 48 hours to do 30mins work? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
you have odviously never done flash animation mate, if you actually bothered to LOOK at the animation, theres a lot more than you think
don't talk about things you have NO IDEA about <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Really, lol.
You should possibly admit that you have been found out on this one. I've been doing flash animation for several years now. Maybe you're not good enough to do something like that under an hour, but i know i am, as are a great number of other people. Infact anyone who's just installed the trial version after 5 minutes probably knows more than you do.
I mean, damn, come on, where was the basic loading information and so on. The first thing you should know is +never+ use excessive amounts of animation or sounds during the loading process (which you did) since that slows the loading of the overall piece. Nub caek.
this is nothing to do with you!!
hmm you say you don't give a damn about what any1 else says, well i'll follow your advice m8, i dont care what you say sorry, but your general uptightness have given me no respect of what you think at all!
And as for all this sob story you are givin me about what you've had to deal with. If you didn't look like that you wouldn't get all this rubbish. Some people can't control how they look, you can!
Now im ending this conversation, because frankly you are boring me now
and also, who needs a loading page when it takes half a second to load, and i don't care about 56k users
Right conversation over, don't make me get a magnet
you sound like a kid m8....lol fookin battle, now who is the immature one
you sound like a spoilt child m8, im sorry but you have some serious issues <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm only 20, yes.
And both you and your "friend" might be advised to stop avoiding the swear filter.
And yes i was a spoilt child, i'm glad of it, being spoilt means i got more than any of you poor unfortunate brats. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
with your frankly freakish hair cuts and metal thru your head, i don't think your parents did their job properly m8 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
My parents brought me up to express myself, not let others hold me down, stand up for what i believe in, and most of all not give a **** for what other people say.
They support my every decision knowing i am an adult and can make my own decisions.
I'm glad i was brought up open-minded.
And as an afterthought, you get many facial piercings and dye your hair red, if you survive one freaking day without having things thrown at you, verbal abuse wherever you go and get looked down upon. After going years like that myself, i'm a stronger person, i'd +love+ to see someone like you survive a day without cracking. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
oh this is great, i do have to say tho dude, you do seem to be going over your station a wee be, DEUS.org your calling your website GOD.org! come on!!! and dude, you say you trying doing that with hair and shite. i have a oragne wave down my head, and dress like a cyber kid!!!! all i seem to get is praise!! your jus freak that seems to be taking things wee bit to far, come on, he gave credit where it was due, he state that weeb made it.
yes i know what i'm on about!!! i also am a member of b3ta, but i dont see what that has todo with anythign
oh yeah, im on the same IP range as stabbers, but i'm not him,
If i didn't look like this i wouldn't be who i am today. And i love who i am today, i'm happy, i'm +very+ happy. And content with my surroundings and situations.
The "abuse" i've recieved throughout the entirity of my childhood has done nothing but made me a stronger, more open-minded, and a better person.
Some people could use that sort of experience to make them wake up and realise the world isn't so 2 dimensional.
Questioning Esuna's life choices Stabby attempts to draw attention away from his wounds
btw I smell a lock comming. If it gets locked right now I'd have to say Esuna wins.
Stabby throws in a beligerent slur of insults from his lap monkey, how will Esuna react?
and pink man stop using +++++ its p1ss1ng me off
hey i got a math for ya pink hair+earings+**** head attitude + reckons he has a girlfriend but dont = **** **** who should go off th bed and give himself one off the wrist
If i didn't look like this i wouldn't be who i am today. And i love who i am today, i'm happy, i'm +very+ happy. And content with my surroundings and situations.
The "abuse" i've recieved throughout the entirity of my childhood has done nothing but made me a stronger, more open-minded, and a better person.
Some people could use that sort of experience to make them wake up and realise the world isn't so 2 dimensional. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
mate, STOP GIVING ME A SOB STORY, I DONT CARE!!!