Aliens Weapon We Missed?
Lazer
Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14406Members, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14406Members, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
<div class="IPBDescription">An m4a1 like weapon. (screenshot inside</div> I was watching Aliens today and I saw this gun that resembled the m4a1 but had a longer clip (maybe twice as long) and a different look to the barrel. Here's a screenshot:
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Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the legendary Weirzbowski holding that flamethrower.
That's odd. It looks exactly like one to me.
<img src='http://www.encom.demon.co.uk/graphics/ft1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
"Left side view of one of the practical flamethrowers as used by Frost, Apone, Ripley, Wierzbowski, Drake and Dietrich. Components used in its construction include an M16/M203 grenade launcher, The carry handle is an M16A1 upper receiver and the part immediately above the handgrip is the M16A1 lower receiver. Also featured is a magazine release button from an M16."
edit: pwned by my slow connection again.
The maker of the original M41A1 model that was made for CS actually modeled it like the propmakers did. He took a SPAS-12, a Thompson, and made the reciever himself.
Ironic how the only one to ever do it "right" got toasted by model reviewers.
Not really, it's a perfectly lined up shot of the Flamethrower.
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I mean this without insult to those that hack models, but there's a <i>big</i> difference between doing such work in a modeling program and doing it with real world objects, and it can be summed up in one word: "ctrl-z". <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Plus, there's another layer of complexity to it, because beyond surface aesthetics, you've also got to maintain the inherent functionality of the pieces.
Your point is well taken . . . but I just wanted to speak up in defense of the Aliens weapons, because I don't think it does them justice to call them 'hack-jobs'. . . <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Ever since I started trying to build a PR from scratch, using the movie components and other people's machined parts (I put a thread in here about it awhile back), my admiration for Bapty (the company that did the originals) and pretty much all other good physical prop companies has gone up 100000000%.
Edit: Not that I don't have respect for good modellers, either. But this crap is <b><i>hard</i></b>.
I've just reached the point where I've had to start drilling and threading the aluminum receiver, which is incredibly nerve wracking-- as I said, there's no ctrl-z, so one false move and I've ruined a $300 airsoft gun . . .
But here's another shot of the components, with the gl disassembled.
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Edit: 1,000 posts!!!!!!!!!!
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8 gun salute!
or do you want to make your own one..regular or vacuum molding?
can u post fotos of them too?
Because people are stupid.
or do you want to make your own one..regular or vacuum molding?
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I've been planning this thing for two years, so I'm doing it as close as possible to the original <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
But a quick rundown:
The thompson is a Tokyo Marui thompson (doubt you'd have a problem with that <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> )
The stock and vent piece are metal-- custom machined according to the hero specs, by a very talented guy who hangs out at the aliens replica prop boards.
The grenade launcher is a genuine spas 12 cage, with an airsoft remington 780 fitted internally to the pumping mechanism (which gives a nice working pump-- now, you can have a version that actually cycles replica grenades if you use a real remington, but you run into all sorts of problems with the atf here in the states, because you have to cut the barrel down significantly).
I've also got a set of shrouds that were cast according to the proportions of the original aluminum shrounds (but they're abs reinforced by fiberglass).
Still a few parts left to scour, but I'm trying to get as close to a firing (hence the airsoft thompson) replica of the screen used hero rifles.
It's a battle between accuracy and availablity, because all but one of the PRs from Aliens were deconstructed following the films. As far as I know, Icons was the only company to cast a resin replica off the original parts (they made a hero version as well, but beyond a few prototypes, it never saw the light of day) and the only recast I know off of that was at <a href='http://www.monstersinmotion.com' target='_blank'>this place.</a>
Now it's more a matter of 'can I construct this without ruining these beautiful pieces?' <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
there are some do it yourself counter kits for 75$ around..
<img src='http://home.pressroom.com/philips/pulser/countr6.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
<img src='http://home.pressroom.com/philips/pulser/countr7.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
not much to do..
Pulse Rifle Counter
Price: $75.00
Supplier:
Phil Steinschneider
Email: philips@pressroom.com
Price: $1300.00 (includes shipping)
Supplier:
Phil Steinschneider (email for availability)
Email: philips@pressroom.com
Website(s): <a href='http://home.pressroom.com/philips' target='_blank'>http://home.pressroom.com/philips</a>
Notes: The following is included in the kit:
1. 6 resin parts (pistol grip, mag. tabs, butt plate, etc. with some spares).
2. About 20 miscellaneous machined aluminum, Delrin, and steel parts.
3. All necessary screws w/ connectors.
4. 1 machined and bead-blasted aluminum Thompson replica receiver.
The bolt cavity is NOT milled out. You will need to have your local shop do that for about $80 if you want a working bolt action.
5. 1 pair of vacuum-formed styrene/ABS shrouds (rough trimmed, final trimming to be done by you).
6. 1 pre-programmed digital counter (completed, final wiring to be done by you).
7. 1 magazine/battery pack-cut, trimmed, painted and wired with switch.
8. Miscellaneous phone/e-mail consultations on assembly procedures.
9. Shipping fees for several packages.
Additional Information:
It is STRONGLY recommend that you purchase a Thompson grip frame assembly from Sarco as soon as possible. They will not be around forever, and the price keeps going up. They are currently $295. Sarco: 908-647-3800. Ask for Bob in Parts. Or click here for more information
You will also need to get Remington 870 Shotgun. Click here for more information.
The following parts will also have to be purchased separately:
SPAS-12 Handguard
SPAS-12 Slide-action sleeve
Click here for supplier and price information.
Miscellaneous:
Delivery time is about 3 to 4 weeks on our parts set.
Sources for any remaining parts are supplied.
Money orders, Visa, MC, and Discover (via Paypal or C2it) accepted. Payment plans are also available.
<a href='http://home.pressroom.com/philips/pulser/prifle.htm' target='_blank'>do it yourself pulse rifle</a>
But there is a Japanese airsoft kit being released-- the prototype had a three digit counter (to account for all the pellets in the magazine) but the consumer version only has a two digit counter.
Plus, the kit they sell, while nice, is completely inaccurate as far as the screen used gun goes: check it out <a href='http://www.airsoftclub.com/scripts/Aliengun.html' target='_blank'>here</a>. As far as airsoft replicas, it's cheap, but the inconsistencies are pretty blatant-- thin magazine well, different stock, different vent, etc.