Attention French Persons

MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
edited June 2003 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Living in France. And liking NS.</div> Do you have any access to LAN Magazine and their issues number 7, featuring NS on the cover? Their website is here:

<a href='http://www.lan-magazine.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.lan-magazine.com/</a>

<img src='http://www.ns-fr.com/imgs/lanmag7.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

Babelfish does a very bad translation of French (the idiomatic wording on gaming websites especially), so from what I can tell, it says it's on sale at newstands for 2€.

This was pointed out to me by the excellent website:

<a href='http://www.ns-fr.com' target='_blank'>http://www.ns-fr.com</a>

Anyone who could purchase a copy of this and scan it in (then perhaps give a quick translation?) would be my super hero.
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  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    I can't tell you about the french one but about a German one... They only gave it a 78% (www.gamestar.de) But i guess this was because it was the 1.0 version of the game <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Allthough a 78% is pretty good with the GS <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> (black and white got about 81% ^^ )
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Arrrrggg!!! NS is 10 times better than B&W!!!

    We'll get those doggone germans to like us in the next round. 1.1 will blow their pickelhaube's off!

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    Yeah I think that too... and they only made a quarter page for NS.... I guess I have to start my mail proggy and get some of their mailaddys <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    yes I have heard about this magazine. My good friend (heh) Tib- wrote an article to it. I'll try to find it for you and traduce it for you people. Unless someone else decides to do so.
  • KaliKali Join Date: 2002-07-01 Member: 858Members
    edited June 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Jun 2 2003, 07:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Jun 2 2003, 07:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Arrrrggg!!! NS is 10 times better than B&W!!!

    We'll get those doggone germans to like us in the next round. 1.1 will blow their pickelhaube's off!

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The Gamestar report was bad and they got lots of trouble with me because of this. Now they read <a href='http://www.natural-selection.de' target='_blank'>http://www.natural-selection.de</a> and use the information of the page to improve their reports and it seems to work very well <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DreadDread Join Date: 2002-07-24 Member: 993Members
    Finnish gaming magazine <a href='http://www.pelit.fi' target='_blank'>Pelit</a>(largest in the nordic countries) gave ns 1.0 88/100 and [Pelit recommends]-stamp when 1.0 came out. I try to get them to make a new review when 1.1 comes out <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I can't help with the french-article though. My ?ber french-skillz are rather handicapped. Took me two years to learn one word "le poulet" = chicken and one sentence "pose ton sac sur le lit" = place your bag on the bed <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • FireStormFireStorm Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7390Members
    I don't know this magazine.... I'll take a look at it.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Stop talking about Pickelhauben please... we don't like 'em either, they are prone to blowing our ballons up (go watch "Those Incedible Men in Their Flying Machines" before you ask me what I'm talking about). And they smell of Kaiserzeit.
    Forget Babelfish anyway, until we get A.I., no internet translator will be anywhere near good (used to amuse me endlessly when my schoolmates wrote their homework for english in german and used babelfish to translate it - "WTH do we get so bad grades??" <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> ).
  • DreamDream Join Date: 2002-12-02 Member: 10393Members
    well i could translate it ( well in some good english.. maybe not the best ) if i could get my hand on that magazine ( since i live in quebec and not in France <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> )
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Yea, the Gamestar coverage was rotten, although we nonetheless managed to blow Hegemonia (same issue) out of the water. Anyway, I'm not really sure whether we should pay too much attention to the opinion of a badly written, bootlegging print mag.
  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    Don't blame the only good German PC mag for nothing !
  • Lt_HendricksonLt_Hendrickson Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14761Members
    edited June 2003
    <span style='color:white'>Aside from being slighty 'racist', you're somewhat off topic here.</span>
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Tyrain+Jun 2 2003, 10:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tyrain @ Jun 2 2003, 10:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Don't blame the only good German PC mag for nothing ! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The last good German gaming mags, Play Time and Total!, died years ago.
    And if you want to have prove about that 'bootlegging', just mention the name 'Gamestar' around DOOManiac...
  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nemesis Zero+Jun 2 2003, 11:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jun 2 2003, 11:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Tyrain+Jun 2 2003, 10:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tyrain @ Jun 2 2003, 10:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Don't blame the only good German PC mag for nothing ! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The last good German gaming mags, Play Time and Total!, died years ago.
    And if you want to have prove about that 'bootlegging', just mention the name 'Gamestar' around DOOManiac... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Where can I find that guy? ^^

    No seriously... it really good. But thats OT.
  • eggmaceggmac Join Date: 2003-03-03 Member: 14246Members
    I'd love to be your super-hero, but I doubt that I'll have access to that mag :/
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Ehhh, so... no frenchmen here?
  • DocZDocZ Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9831Members
    edited June 2003
    I could translate if I get the text. I simply don't have access to that magazine <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    If anyone can scan the stuff and doesn't feel like translating, speak up, I'll do it.
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    /me thinks nem0 is going to have to bust out his post editing again...

    dont be racist please. its immature. (that goes for you too marine01)

    there is nothing wrong with the french, they are just (thank god) different, like everybody else
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Clan Hunter, I see massive conflicts between your last post and your sig. Would you please remove either of them?
    Also, that remark was totally uncalled for.
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited June 2003
    Let it be known that I will <i>not</i> tolerate such crap anymore. Clanhunter, one more such remark, and you'll have to search for a new place to dump your stereotypized, unreflected notions.

    [edit]Should nobody else jump up, there's always the option that I take the thirty minutes drive upon myself and search for that mag in the Elsass. I'm on vacation though and won't be coming back home for another two weeks, so any other help would be greatly appreciated.[/edit]
  • KhazModanKhazModan Join Date: 2003-04-14 Member: 15500Members, Constellation
    <a href='http://www.translate.ru/srvurl.asp?lang=en' target='_blank'>Translate.ru does a better translation than babelfish (i think) try that if you cant spk french</a>
  • TyrainTyrain Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11746Members
    I could get it... though I really don't wanna ride da bus to france *gg*
    Sure it's just 2 hours away but still....
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    i could translate it, i could take a look if i can find it here in switzerland. The Gamestar Review wasnt worth translating... it was horrible
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    *Silencer-7 mentions Gamestar in front of DOOManiac*

    If you read any review of it tell us the gist of it, even if the reviewer doesn't have a clue. If only so that we can swamp thier e-mail with flames.
  • KungFuSquirrelKungFuSquirrel Basher of Muttons Join Date: 2002-01-26 Member: 103Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Well, from what I can remember of my French, the little summary of the article on the magazine's website is quite complimentary - "A new vision of games online." Roughly. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> If all else fails (and I mean <b>all</b> else), I could try to brush up on my French skills and take a crack at it. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    Do you have it? or could you find it? after the fitness i will go in the city and look in a kiosk if they have it... but i doubt, im in the french part of switzerland.. but we dont have all french magazines
  • DriftwoodDriftwood Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8245Members
    edited June 2003
    The article on Finnish gaming magazine, Pelit about NS 1.0 Dread mentioned. I had some spare time and made a very quick translation of it. Now, you understand that this is copyrighted stuff, translation doesn't change that and technically, I shouldn't do this. However, I'm not sure they would mind.

    I've replaced sub-headlines with numbers as they had puns too difficult to translate. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> I'd like also to remind that the largest gaming magazine of Scandinavia that Dread mentioned means ~40 000 subsrcibing or buying and 150 000 reading. In terms of size, Pelit is easily the world's largest gaming magazine when compared to its market of ~5 000 000 people. It's been published since 1992 and has a very good reputation in the gaming field. Reviewer is without any exaggeration the Grand Old Man of Finnish gaming magazine scene and one of the two founding members of the magazine itself.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><span style='font-size:9pt;line-height:100%'>Is the apocalypse upon us when Pelit voluntarily reviews a Half-life mod? Hopefully not so I can play Natural Selection a bit more.

    In Natural Selection space soldiers (frontiersmen) face out space bugs (kharaa). The mod incorporates a real time strat? with a shooter and the end result pleases me a lot.

    RTS has been added to the game surprisingly well. Both sides build classic bases that consist of respawnportals, defenses, upgrade facilities that allow new abilities and equipment and finally resource gatherers.

    1.

    Frontiersmen are classic space marines and the bane of jazzmen: no one plays solos as the orchestra does as the leader says. Or you die. Commander isn?t optional and someone really has to sit down in the console and look after his crew, because in the start of the game soldier has only a light machinegun and 50 rounds of ammo (plus pistol and knife). Respawning can only be done when the commander builds portals and more ammo requires an armory.

    Commander who is limited only to his map view can build, or more truthfully, place buildings on the field and the soldiers build them. Other usual business like better weapons, armor and ammo depend only on how skillful and nice natured the commander is. Good commander doesn?t keep resources molding on the account and shares his troops medpacks and better weapons without asking.

    Marines are not given personal glory, no scores or kills. Only the benefit of the team and final victory matter something. That?s the spirit. Final victory is very close when marines in heavy armor and armed with heavy machineguns make minced meat out of aliens. Before that aliens get their headache from the automatically firing turret farms that marines eagerly set up.

    2.

    Players who look for looser discipline, choose kharaa, but there isn?t much room for solos in their shells either. Basic warrior of the kharaa is the skulk with a deadly bite that can depending on the resource points, evolve into new evolutions. The most important of these is the builder gorge that sets up defenses, resource towers and other buildings of the hive.

    The fast skulk is in skilled (but not in mine) hands lethal and when you add extra speed or invisibility, marine is in trouble. The real shock troopers are large mantis-like Fades and flying Lerks. Kharaa can upgrade their abilities and see their enemies even through walls.

    Objective of the Kharaa is to set up three hives into specifically determined locations. Each hive opens up new steps on the ladders of evolution and the third hive makes the bells toll for marines. After that kharaa learn how to evolve into Onos. Onos is a giant bulllike biological tank that knocks over marines and their equipment like city mayor culturally historical buildings.

    3.

    You don?t see a mod this professional and polished often. It looks very good (in Half-life scale) and it has a interface more polished than the M3-knife of a paranoid paratrooper. It's no surprise the makers are game programmers, professional graphic artists and other pros.

    Number of servers increasesall the time and they are constantly full. It?s actually bit of a wonder since for normal internet gamer that is used to running into his favorite camping spot in de_dust, Natural is clearly too hard to swallow and usually in (full) public servers, quality of the game is thrown with a dice. However, they offer also surprisingly good game and the clueless NSPlayers with their constant whining are entertaining.

    Snakes of the paradise are rather small. Some of the maps are too mazelike and large when compared to the number of players. Sometimes matches freeze into long trench warfare. On the other side Natu has a thick and slippery anti-idiot tefloncoating. Because the mod doesn?t offer egofood for fraghunters, teamkillers or even cheaters, players behave better than usual. I hope the strict line doesn?t slip in the future in the favor of more audience.

    Biggest downside (aside than a bad comm) are The Irreplaceable Superplayers, who whine all the time for better weapons, armor and jetpacs in the phase of the game when resource points should be used for more important projects. Special notion must be given to the Mr. Nothings who change sides in the endgame on the winning team. Well done, little heroes!

    Naturally, after this review Natural Selection?s value will change. Pelit-magazine is commonly known to be responsible for among other things for the invasion of idiots in Counter-Strike. Luckily Natural Selection at least in theory should be able to resist de-evolution into a stupid shooter for regular Joes.

    Darwinists have fun since in the evolution of mods, Natural Selection gives new life to the Half-life dinosaur while the new quick mammals a?la Quake III and the new Unreal are still wondering where their grade A mods are.

    Niko Nirvi, published originally in Pelit 12/2002 page 77.
    </span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    The remark about Pelit being responsible for Counter-Strike llama infestation is due to the amount of criticism Pelit got for doing articles about CS. Apparently, some people felt that it's because of these articles that CS got so big and inevitably, llama infested. Naturally, they are talking about the Finnish scene but even so, it's rather retarded way of thinking.
  • DreadDread Join Date: 2002-07-24 Member: 993Members
    edited June 2003
    *claps*

    Bravo! Very nice translation Drift <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Edit: I remember when people on POnline whined about Pelit giving CS 5 stars. Pelit surely doesn't have THAT huge efect on gamers. The llamas, cheater and other casual "peelot" were there way before that article <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • r3men4ntr3men4nt Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8103Members
    edited June 2003
    Ok well if i could get a link to the text id be able to translate it by thursdat latest as I am busy wednesday nights.

    [edit] for the lan magazine[/edit]
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    I'd go get it but that means I have to go outside. And everyone knows there's wolves outside <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Seriously, if no-one else is going to do this, I might do it whenever I feel I can leave my computer chair and go to town. Of course, if someone else is going to do this they're going to save me a trip to the wolfland <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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