Hows Are Fades Supposed To Be Anti-jetpack?

Psycho-Kinetic_Hyper-GeekPsycho-Kinetic_Hyper-Geek Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9243Banned, Constellation
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<div class="IPBDescription">Just to clear up some confusion</div> As I understood it there were supposed to be definate counters in 1.1 like Jetpack > Onos and that Fades were going to be the jetpack counter. However I don't see how metabolize will help against them at all. If Fades are no longer supposed to be the jetpack counter then what is? Just trying to egt a clearer picture here.
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  • MacguyvokMacguyvok Godlike Fuzzydice Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16162Members
    I really have to agree... I think that acid rockets are the closest thing to a counter.. besides lerk spikes.... and those don't do crap really..... *shrugs*
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  • Frogg2Frogg2 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4867Members, Constellation
    edited June 2003
    JPs dont need an absolute counter right now <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • MrPinkMrPink Join Date: 2002-05-28 Member: 678Members
    I thought lerks were supposed to be a counter, as I heard jetpacks are near useless right now anyway.
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  • MacguyvokMacguyvok Godlike Fuzzydice Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16162Members
    How nerfed is the JP? I mean if it's enough that there's no need for a counter to it.. how can it be a <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> counter?! I mean.... <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> pwns <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> ..... So, if jp is nerfed that badly.. then a jp won't matter agains a <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> right?
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  • Frogg2Frogg2 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4867Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Macguyvok+Jun 1 2003, 03:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Macguyvok @ Jun 1 2003, 03:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How nerfed is the JP? I mean if it's enough that there's no need for a counter to it.. how can it be a <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> counter?! I mean.... <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> pwns <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo--> ..... So, if jp is nerfed that badly.. then a jp won't matter agains a <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> right? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The JP is the only thing that can't be stomped or that can keep it's distance from the onos, so it still does counter the onos decently.
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  • Infected_MarineInfected_Marine Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11287Members
    IT will remain an Onos counter as it is in 1.04, all a few JPer's have to do is get into a good perch and shoot the Onos to bits.
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  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    what infected marine said, I suppose. That was the initial use for jetpack anyway, not infinite hover.
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  • Frogg2Frogg2 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4867Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Infected Marine+Jun 1 2003, 04:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infected Marine @ Jun 1 2003, 04:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> IT will remain an Onos counter as it is in 1.04, all a few JPer's have to do is get into a good perch and shoot the Onos to bits. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Paralyze was a very anti-jetpack ability...
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  • Brave_UlyssesBrave_Ulysses Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15922Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Frogg2+Jun 1 2003, 04:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Frogg2 @ Jun 1 2003, 04:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Infected Marine+Jun 1 2003, 04:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infected Marine @ Jun 1 2003, 04:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> IT will remain an Onos counter as it is in 1.04, all a few JPer's have to do is get into a good perch and shoot the Onos to bits. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Paralyze was a very anti-jetpack ability... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You have to use it skillfully, though, against a very manoeuvrable target like a good JPer.
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  • tanneyman13tanneyman13 Join Date: 2003-04-19 Member: 15655Members
    well i would say that the new o chamber is a good counter to jetpackers since their rof is higher
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  • AgkelosAgkelos Join Date: 2003-02-07 Member: 13243Members
    Have any of you even played 1.1 to know of any of this?
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  • MacguyvokMacguyvok Godlike Fuzzydice Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16162Members
    So it would seem. I think the Fade is becoming more of a mutt as far as roles goes.. it seems to have both offensive, and defensive weapons, and seems very nice all around. I don't know how nice it'll be to play, but I do know it's going to be a favorite of the aliens, and a menace to ill prepared 'rines.
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  • Pr0phecyPr0phecy Join Date: 2002-04-04 Member: 381Members
    edited June 2003
    Jetpack Cost 20 ---> 15

    At least it wont be such a big deal if u die...
    And hmg and other weapons are cheaper in 1.1.....So i dont think u have to worry about how u will get another "combo pack"...
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  • AgkelosAgkelos Join Date: 2003-02-07 Member: 13243Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Macguyvok+Jun 1 2003, 10:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Macguyvok @ Jun 1 2003, 10:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So it would seem. I think the Fade is becoming more of a mutt as far as roles goes.. it seems to have both offensive, and defensive weapons, and seems very nice all around. I don't know how nice it'll be to play, but I do know it's going to be a favorite of the aliens, and a menace to ill prepared 'rines. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Fades atm are downright nasty. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • MacguyvokMacguyvok Godlike Fuzzydice Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16162Members
    5k0r3!! I love the fade, even though I'm a marine player at heart. Give me all the fade pwn4g3 I can get! :-D
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