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well, on many servers (including mine) F4 = ban. It says so when you join, so if you don't agree, don't join. 2 things about online gaming I hold in high regard: 1) Play to win 2) Respect others.
IMHO though spawn camping fits into 1, it fails miserably at 2 and is banned on my server.
I find the only real difference between spawn camping aliens and marines is upgrades. A marine is insantly equipped with his armour upgrades and ammo upgrades, if any. They can fend off more hits right off the ip and can do more damage, as an alien trying to get rid of a spawn camper has to quickly run away, upgrade and then try to attack. and of course, when you take down marine spawns they can get them back almost instantly, where hives take forever. and same with spawn time. Marines take less time depending on ammount of ips (usually 2, sometimes 1 or 3) Aliens also take less time to spawn depending on hives, but can't get a second or third easily. It just sucks if you take a long time waiting to spawn only to have some moron shoot you within five seconds..
<!--QuoteBegin--Agkelos+May 27 2003, 03:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Agkelos @ May 27 2003, 03:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Sirus+May 26 2003, 10:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sirus @ May 26 2003, 10:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think it's understood than any type of spawn camping is unacceptable in any aspect, in any game.
Later builds of 1.1 in playtest will address this. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I disagree. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I agree with your disagreement. personally I've yet to see an incident of "spawn camping" or any sort of camping that wasnt just whining players.
Well, its true that I disagree that F4 should be punishable in any circumstance, there are just some instanced which are screaming for an F4. To tell the truth as long as I know the end is coming soon I'm perfectly willing to wait it out. But if the rines are dinkin around turreting every res node into oblivion then I'm gonna F4 on most servers (not on your server Roobubba, because that'll get me banned as you say <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> ). A good thing to implement would be a surrender vote, and if 3/4 of the team agrees then the round ends. That would fix the F4 problem.
Although it does tick me off when you hear the marine team calling the alien team a bunch if cowards after a 2 hour game and the aliens only have 1 hive.
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2 things about online gaming I hold in high regard: 1) Play to win 2) Respect others.
IMHO though spawn camping fits into 1, it fails miserably at 2 and is banned on my server.
"Please come again"
and of course, when you take down marine spawns they can get them back almost instantly, where hives take forever.
and same with spawn time. Marines take less time depending on ammount of ips (usually 2, sometimes 1 or 3) Aliens also take less time to spawn depending on hives, but can't get a second or third easily. It just sucks if you take a long time waiting to spawn only to have some moron shoot you within five seconds..
Later builds of 1.1 in playtest will address this. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I disagree. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree with your disagreement. personally I've yet to see an incident of "spawn camping" or any sort of camping that wasnt just whining players.
Although it does tick me off when you hear the marine team calling the alien team a bunch if cowards after a 2 hour game and the aliens only have 1 hive.