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Cereal_KillR

<div class="IPBDescription">why is it enforced?</div> ok I'm regularly playing on servers which force developer to be 0.
And I just wondered why? is there any way to abuse it? in which case you answer "yes" and I'll stop complaining.

But I've been thinking, what's wrong with having text -that hides part of your screen for that matter- when it's just for personal and comfort reasons?

I mean let's see what developer can do:

-repeat what the console says. Big deal, bring the console down.
-make nifty echos, making possible echoed menu scripts, having HL-irc (sometimes useful), etc..


Turn dev off and you still can see what the console says, but you get those echoes that are removed <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->


so why is developer sometimes forced to 0?

That_Annoying_Kid

I can't say for sure, but one of the smarter forum admins/devs could probably say, same with [who]them, lightening blue, voogru, cracker jackmac, or any of the other good server ops I forgot, but my guess is that it allows the player some kind of unfair advantage in game (access to "h4x" or scripts or something that goes against playing by the rules)


another reason is that there is no need to be in dev mode, becase the game has been released, and your supposed to play and not dev <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->


can anyone give a more concise answer than this?
(I tried <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->)

Cereal_KillR

I'm not using dev to have stuff on top of my screen such as the kills and chat repeated, I want developer to be able to use echoed menus, hl-irc and hlamp :/

But I can live without them if dev is actually a cheat <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

CheesyPeteza

You probably just played on a server with WWCL or something. Developer isn't locked on most servers.

Lightning_Blue

I don't block it, I never even have considered blocking it, lol.

Give me a valid reason to do so.

[WHO]Them

I don't block it or know of any reason to do so.

That_Annoying_Kid

well there you have it, those are some pretty reliable sources for running servers

I guess you should get admin on the server you play, and turn the forcing it to 0 off, or go play on a different server (I recomend the latter)

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verbose

Never heard of any reason to block developer 1.

CheesyPeteza

I know a reason. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> It's default. They are probably running the really strict version of WWCL that forces everything to default. Which imho is best kept for CPL. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

EvilGrin

WWCL is designed for CounterStrike. Using it for Natural Selection is likely to break things. I recommend you contact the server admin and ask him to fix his config. Personally I'd suggest he uses HLGuard instead to enforce cvars. (If he does this make sure he doesn't enable the other stuff, it seems to mess up the skulk bite speed)