A Hl Mod...

Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Hacking is the deal...</div> OK me and my freind is making at HL mod called HVS (hackers VS Servers) and we need more coders/tex makers ect... so if you want to help or join the team email me at blaster12secret@hotmail.com

The site of this mod will be hosted at PHL so i will tell here when its up...

PLZ post any ideas or whatever

-Diablo

Comments

  • PegenatorPegenator Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11269Members
    Make it so that CS servers are the easiest to hack and NS servers are the hardest <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    well its not game servers your gonna hack, its kinda tricky

    Theres 2 teams

    Hackers and servers

    Servers trys to <u><b>NOT</b></u> get hacked and hackers try to hack em...

    The teams will be dealt unfair at numbers becuse 1v1 would be boring for a good server player
    But if it is 5v2 it will be alot more fun...

    In the game u can buy programs (servers) or hackers DL em for free (mostly!)

    Its not stealing anything from NS at all or any other HL mod.

    Well email me if u wanna know more...

    blaster12secret@hotmail.com
  • Dirty_Harry_PotterDirty_Harry_Potter Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9500Members
    sounds a bit like the cardgame netrunner - it got some pretty good pictures at the cards, maybe you could look ther eif your in need of concept art - or at least inspiration.
  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    sure just send em to my email will ya? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Now you've got me curious as to how this concept could be carried out in an FPS platform.. :b
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Talesin+May 23 2003, 11:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ May 23 2003, 11:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Now you've got me curious as to how this concept could be carried out in an FPS platform.. :b <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I would have to agree

    would it be like a command prompt type thing or how would this work <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    i have to say, i would love to see such a hack game.. but it should be inteligent, i mean REALY complex. I thinked a long time about it how i could do such a game, but i never found a inteligent conzept
  • WindelkronWindelkron Join Date: 2002-04-11 Member: 419Members
    edited May 2003
    Sorry, but the idea's already been <a href='http://www.counter-strike.net' target='_blank'>taken</a>!
  • Dirty_Harry_PotterDirty_Harry_Potter Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9500Members
    Managed to find som pictures:
    <a href='http://home.speedsite.com/rattin/robotninjapop.html' target='_blank'>Robot ninja</a>
    <a href='http://home.speedsite.com/rattin/hunterseekerpop.html' target='_blank'>Hunter Seeker</a>
    <a href='http://home.speedsite.com/rattin/fortresspop.html' target='_blank'>Fortress</a>
    <img src='http://www.os.rim.or.jp/~bqsfgame/netrunner_ice1.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Or you could check out Uplink... it does get a little limited after a month of play, but beyond that it's quite fun. The 'network' option in it is NOT multiplayer (which may or may not be scheduled for Uplink 2) but is to allow you to run the game itself on the primary computer, and a pair of secondary Info displays.. one for the Global Map (shows your route to target, any traces and their progress once you get the appropriate-level Trace Tracker program), and the Information screen (info about your character, news headlines in-game). Which looks REALLY FREAKING COOL when you're running it on a trio of projectors side-to-side, with the screens being forty feet tall, if not larger on the side of a building.

    <a href='http://www.introversion.co.uk/' target='_blank'>http://www.introversion.co.uk/</a>

    They're also an independent development house. They deserve the twenty bucks for developing such a fun game.
    Plus, they include stuff on the disc for those who want to try actual 'hacking' (cracking, really) with rewards like gamebible.zip (there are four of them, each harder to find and open than the last) which detail the creation of the game itself. Heh... plus you can't really open them without buying the game itself. It comes with... unexpected physical resources.
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    Uplink on the internet would be really cool. You could have your own computer, you would get approached for jobs or search for them, be hacked by others, hack others...

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    So you need an entire mod team...

    what will you be doing? heh
  • DY357LXDY357LX Playing since day 1. Still can&#39;t Comm. England Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1651Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+May 23 2003, 08:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ May 23 2003, 08:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So you need an entire mod team...

    what will you be doing? heh <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Taking the credit for the "idea" no doubt <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Asraniel+May 23 2003, 01:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Asraniel @ May 23 2003, 01:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i have to say, i would love to see such a hack game.. but it should be inteligent, i mean REALY complex. I thinked a long time about it how i could do such a game, but i never found a inteligent conzept <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    well good it is meant to become very Complexed and i didnt post everything here...take a look here:

    I could post some more info but i wrote it in danish...

    Translating...(sorry, it was done direly and sorry for the writing errors.

    1. Hackers vs servers (defult gameplay)
    All hackers should try to hack the servers (if theres more then one). The hackers can upgrade their stuff, like Better connection, more ram ect. The server can do this too. A round takes 30-60 mins (server setting!) and as usual the guy with most points win the game. (point system is 1 per "succes" hack. servers dont get points they should try to NOT get iny points. The servers start with Computers much more powerfull then hackers.

    Server:
    Net speed: 2mb./ 2mb.
    CPU speed: 2000 mhz.
    Ram: 512 DDR.
    Mother board (MB): 233 mhz.
    Harddrive(HD): 80 GB.
    Temp: Its based on Cpu usage and the fan.

    Hacker:
    Net speed: 256/256 (ADSL)
    CPU speed: 500 mhz.
    Ram: 128 SDR.
    Mother board(MB): 133 mhz.
    Harddrive(HD): 20 GB.
    Temp: Like before

    Money:
    As hacker you get money after time in the game, eg every 5 min. The hacker gets $100 + what he steals to buy for. It is also posible to bet with other hackers eg. to see who hacks the server first ect. The servers earn money for the peaple who uses the server, they eg. get 10-50$ per site they host and for the size of the site they get more.

    There are more game modes dbut they aint fully planed yet
    Feel free to email me at Blaster12secret@hotmail.com as we need everyone whos intrested to join the team (not just coders but all even idea guys who will make the program details and such, we also need a texture maker as there isnt any maps for this game just an open place with nothing (yep this game will run with 100 fps on every comp) Another thing is that it is highly legal to use binds/scribts to hack its the meaning to make your own

    Well that was 10% MAIL ME blaster12secret@hotmail.com

    I posted it at the SI forums first <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DY357LX+May 23 2003, 03:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DY357LX @ May 23 2003, 03:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+May 23 2003, 08:09 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ May 23 2003, 08:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So you need an entire mod team...

    what will you be doing? heh <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Taking the credit for the "idea" no doubt <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i will be making some textures and some "program" facts.

    ...and who was the silly one who posted CS site ffs THIS IS NOT CS!!! and if u can cheat DO IT!
  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--th@ annoying kid+May 23 2003, 01:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (th@ annoying kid @ May 23 2003, 01:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Talesin+May 23 2003, 11:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Talesin @ May 23 2003, 11:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Now you've got me curious as to how this concept could be carried out in an FPS platform.. :b <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I would have to agree

    would it be like a command prompt type thing or how would this work <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes annoying there will be a commandprobt with all the old DOS commands such af "Del. Copy, Dir, CD, CD.. and so on...
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    I'd suggest putting in UNIX commands as well, for those who know how to use them. cd, ls, cp, mv, cat, less, more, rm, vi, grep, sed, awk, crontab... and so on.
  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    Yes of course for servers they can choose what system to use (hacker can too!) Theres Linux, UNIX, old old windows and so on plz still mail me with more and commadns ect. other stuff
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    Well, I can say this much. You've got your job cut out for you, if you're going to try and emulate awk. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> In addition, there'll probably be people downloading awk-scripts to insta-attack servers, regardless of the type of machine they may run.

    Would suggest boosting the server HDD size and CPU power.. about the only servs I know that still run on P-233s are simple mail hosts, and even then only if they don't do in-stream virus checking.
    Fans will be a factor? Need to upgrade your cooling solution, possibly to OC your machine and have less a chance of it melting down?
  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    edited May 2003
    okay!
    Hmm the server runs with 2Ghz as "standart!" you can buy more stuff or new computers to gain more CPU speed.

    Eitherway its not about havking a cold computer its about NOT getting it hacked <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    edited May 2003
    Well heres a pic to shot where gonna be where and such <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
    yeah i know its gif and looks ugly <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    EDIT: im still thinking of changing the top statusbars to a more "flat" one that dont takes so much space to there will be more place a nice 512x512 Program screen <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • dr_ddr_d Join Date: 2003-03-28 Member: 14979Members
    And this is an FPS because.......
  • TalesinTalesin Our own little well of hate Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
    You might be better off just writing an engine from scratch... that doesn't look like it'd even come close to needing Half-Life, nor would it be conducive to being a Half-Life mod. About the only thing you appear to be thinking of snagging from HL is the netcode, which.. really isn't all that great to begin with. I'd rethink, if I were in your position. And get someone with art design skills to redo your interface. Those colours are painful. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    told u i sucked...
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    the idea is nice.... but i would sugest you to do your own 2d engine... i mean, a 2d engine is realy easy to do, network programming (as long it is not too complex) also... why use HL? You could do a thing like Uplink (well.. i think they wouldnt be that happy) with a huge p2p network... could be realy funny i think
  • SupernornSupernorn Best. Picture. Ever. Made. Ever. Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7608Members, Constellation
    how this idea could work for a FPS:

    Teams: Hackers and server operators
    Objective of Hackers: To hack into the server operators computer terminals.
    Objective of server operators: to defend and prevent anyone gaining access to the computer terminals.

    The pitch:

    There is one computer terminal located somewhere in the map. The server operators must defend this terminal and eliminate the Hackers, while the hackers must eliminate the server ops, and HACK into the terminal for a set amount of time. Teamwork would play a major role in the game, for eliminating the enemy and if you are a hacker: providing cover while your team-mate hacks into the server.

    The OTHER pitch:

    This is much like the other pitch, except there are TWO terminals, one for each team. When a hacker attempts to hack into a terminal, the server ops would recieve a message. To prevent a hack succeding, the server ops would need to either: eliminate the hacker, or try to Hack the hacker back using their own terminal. Whoever completes a hack first wins. The more people 'using' a terminal, the quicker it takes to complete, so for teamwork people would need to work together. If one team captures BOTH terminals they could get bonus points.

    Well this is just an idea for turning it into a FPS, its more 'capture the flag' then the original concept, but i am sure you could come up with a way to making it more complex <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ChromeAngelChromeAngel Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 14Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I thought this might be a bit like the TRON FPS game, except with players as hardware and weapons as software and bullets as network packets. I could think up some fun gameplay based on that metaphor.

    I tend to agree that the concept you have has nothing that would make using HL an advantage, coding your own 2D interface would me much more appropriate.
  • CplDavisCplDavis I hunt the arctic Snonos Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12097Members
    edited May 2003
    Cool, this sounds likes the game UpLink

    If anyone ever played it its a game were u are a PC hacker, and you work for a private underground company that are like mercenary hackers. They steal company data, E-Sabatage etc. You can buy and improve your rig with better servers, hardware, modems, password crackers, encrption tech and all that fun stuff. Then when you hack the larger jobs you have toworry about hacking several PCs around the world so you cant be traced and other stuff like clearing data logs to get rid of any evidence.
    Sometimes you only have an open widnow of like 45 sec to get in the target mainframe before back up systems come back online.

    This mod wil be interesting if you guys get it up.

    Go here for pics.
    <a href='http://www.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r19555.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r19555.htm</a>
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    I would be motivated to programm such a game.. but only in java... bu im not that bad in java... i'll think about it...
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