Just A Little Rant About Jetpacks...

No-LifeNo-Life Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14597Members
edited May 2003 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">not what you think...</div> This is something that really bothers me, no not a 1 man JP rush (they are lame =/ ) but when the marine team is clearly winning, conrtoling the map, working as a team, and putting the prussure on the aliens, and finially kills there hive with 5 guys with JP/HMG and JP/shotty. The first thing I see what we all get to the ready room is 1/4 of the alien team crying about a JP/tec rush. This game was over 20 min long, the marines had most of the res nodes on the map and we killed many of there res towers.

When we save a small amout of res to get 5 guys with JPs and better guns, its a cheap rush? ...o im sorry FOR WINNING THE DAMN GAME.

edit: both teams had good players in this game...it was on nano.

Flame me if you want or comment.

/rant off


No-Life

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  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    winning is a cheap rush. ban fades.
  • Abe_FromanAbe_Froman Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13069Members
    Yeah, jp rush isnt cheap, its just hard to counter. A team of lerks can decimate jpers, and in 1.1 people can get fades at one hive. JP rush will no longer be so effective then....
  • BergerBerger Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8945Members, Constellation
    edited May 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Abe Froman+May 6 2003, 08:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Abe Froman @ May 6 2003, 08:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> , and in 1.1 people can get fades at one hive.  JP rush will no longer be so effective then.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <b>MAYBE.</b> Thou shalt not speculate, no matter how much evidence you have. Nothing is for certain.
  • NightfireTGNightfireTG Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11508Members
    edited May 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Ollj+May 6 2003, 07:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ollj @ May 6 2003, 07:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Stop winning! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    it's all good <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AcrobadAcrobad Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1779Members
    i think i was in the game you were talking about.

    in ns_eclipse right?

    i was in the alien team, and i was quite sure we wasn't "Crying" about the jp/tech rush... at least i know the only thing i said about this was "gg unlimted jp" as in jp exploit. Surely the marines had won and we lost. But we are talking about 2 different things there.
  • GlissGliss Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14800Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    1.1 will pwnzerate all that try the early jetpack rush, so don't worry about it.
    Patience, my friend, patience. ... *shakes uncontrollably* 1.1! RAWR!
    Anyway, nearly any game with a JP/HMG hive destruction is horrible. 'specially when the Aliens were clearly going to lose.
  • No-LifeNo-Life Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14597Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->in ns_eclipse right? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yeah it was.



    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> was in the alien team, and i was quite sure we wasn't "Crying" about the jp/tech rush... at least i know the only thing i said about this was "gg unlimted jp" as in jp exploit. Surely the marines had won and we lost. But we are talking about 2 different things there. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This game was today, but its not about that one and only game, this is happend before playing both alien and marine.

    And to restate the main point, this thread is NOT about rushing with JPs, its about winning with teamwork, yet people whine about a JP/tec rush, when there was no rushing at all.


    No-Life
  • AcrobadAcrobad Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1779Members
    again... u missed the point <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    the aliens weren't "whining" about the jp/tech rush... at least when u say 1/4 of the alien team, that means, me and abtm, i think. And if it was us you're talking about, then we were talking about the jp exploit, not the jp/tech thing... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> and we weren't whining about it, we were more like saying jp exploit should be made slayable or something.
  • No-LifeNo-Life Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14597Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->jp exploit <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    jp exploit? I dont think its really an exploit...more like a flaw (if your talking about fps thing whitch I think you are).

    but again im not talking just about that one game, just useing it as an example.

    I did not want to name any names, but yes a few people on the alien team (like 2) called that win a "tec rush" when clearly it was not. There was a lot of voice comm at the end of the game and things overlapped, hehe.



    No-Life
  • ZelZel Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12861Members
    i dont believe in tech rush. im pretty sure getting tech ups early is how youre supposed to play the game.
  • AcrobadAcrobad Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1779Members
    when people say Tech rush... they mean marines not taking a hive/relocating, just capping nodes and researching... that way its hard for the aliens to counter and is rather an easy win for the marines, becuz when they have jp's, the aliens hardly have a second hive at half.... The game is played many ways, but most people play for win so they go with the way with the most advantages.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    There are two issues with jetpacks in 1.04.

    The first is the JP rush - marines who can get jetpacks before aliens can set up adequate defense.

    The second is JPs themselves - flaws in the code that let high-FPS players use them far longer than they ought, as well as just general balance issues. Sounds like *this* is what people were upset about, rather than the other.

    Both are being addressed in 1.1.
  • LucidLucid Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10534Members, Constellation
    lol jp exploit. Ya having a decent computer has to be an exploit. It's not fair to people who cant afford a good computer. Also it must be an exploit to use a cable/dsl conection instead of a 56k to get a ping advantage. It's not fair to the people who cant afford a good connection.

    *COUGH* SARCASM *COUGH*

    *COUGH* SPEND 25 BUCKS ON A GEFORCE 2 *COUGH*

    *COUGH* LEARN HOW TO LERK *COUGH*

    ow my throat hurts
  • AcrobadAcrobad Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1779Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--coil+May 7 2003, 01:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ May 7 2003, 01:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> flaws in the code that let high-FPS players use them far longer than they ought, as well as just general balance issues. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    what the man said.
  • CowswinCowswin Join Date: 2003-03-17 Member: 14623Banned, Constellation
    I smell dirty laundry
  • Big_Chief_Brown_BottomBig_Chief_Brown_Bottom Join Date: 2003-01-22 Member: 12584Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--coil+May 7 2003, 12:18 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ May 7 2003, 12:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> There are two issues with jetpacks in 1.04.

    The first is the JP rush - marines who can get jetpacks before aliens can set up adequate defense.

    The second is JPs themselves - flaws in the code that let high-FPS players use them far longer than they ought, as well as just general balance issues. Sounds like *this* is what people were upset about, rather than the other.

    Both are being addressed in 1.1. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    actually coil its the first problem that people are most concerned about. if aliens have 2nd hive up they couldnt' care less if the jpers stay in the air all day. web + umbra + spike + acid rockets will bring down those jpers.

    its getting jp hmgs into your hive before anyone on your team can afford lerks is the main problem. on 10v10 + games this happens way too often
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