Microsoft Breaking Linux Networking?

DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
<div class="IPBDescription">As found on Knoppix forums...</div>I found a thread called <a href='http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2164' target='_blank'>Evidence WinXP "security updates" may break Linux</a> on <a href='http://www.knoppix.net' target='_blank'>knoppix.net</a> while trying to find things out about that particular distro. Too many threads to just post a quote here, so go read it for yourself.

Certain things about this make me feel that this may indeed be legit stuff. For one, there isn't a rabid amount of zealot-ism that most Linux forums display. In fact, the people posting there seem downright reasonable about things. Also supposedly other people there have tested this a lot and all get the same results: Linux networking broken after installing a WinXP Security Update...

Very interesting indeed.

Lets try to talk about this w/o fanboyism and rabid bashing of one side of the fence or the other "just because". I don't want to see this thread locked. I can't wait to hear something from some of the peeps here who are pro's w/ the networking stuffs.

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  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited May 2003
    In other news, a recent Microsoft hotfix breaks application load times - of Microsoft apps! Microsoft is out to get Microsoft!!!

    ^_^

    It's a bug, not a conspiracy. More likely caused by MS not testing against a third-party addon app like Knoppix. Because, well, why should they? It's used by a whopping 50 people on earth, for a competitor's product. They barely test against Netware and that company, diminished as it is, has about 100x the business market share of Linux...

    (Yes, that was an exageration - you can also refer to it as something called 'hyperbole'. I'm sure knoppix has closer to 100 users... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> )
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    on with the whole Microsoft and Linux deal.

    You know of the x-box Linux project?

    It's a competition to find the best way to get linux to run on an x-box.

    Why so special? Microsoft claims the x-box would dissallow such an attempt and anything of that kind, in short: they say it's impossible.

    007 game for x-box, save game file has a buffer overload. So using that someone managed to reference a linux file and get linux to start on the x-box <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    umm, as I remember running linux on an xbox is no where near dificult (simply insert CD and install as I remember)
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    install yes, now how do you execute what you installed? The bios on the x-box is set to run its own os.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    interesting, I don't know I should lok into it

    though why any one would want to (aside from 'for the heck of it') I don't know <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    <a href='http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=352' target='_blank'>...</a>
  • HBNayrHBNayr Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 930Members
    <a href='http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/index.php' target='_blank'>It's basically a $200 computer.</a>

    Not only getting an extremely cheap, semi-decent, computer, but you make a name for yourself as the guy (or girl) who did what Microsoft set out to stop. If that's not worth putting on a resume, then I don't know what is.

    But, we are going off-topic. As much as I dislike the "man" (any faceless corporation I can place blame on as much as possible), I really don't think that Microsoft is out to kill Knoppix, simply because Knoppix isn't much of a threat to Microsoft. It would be nice for someone to track WHY the Windows XP security update would change EEPROM settings on a NIC card, but I think it was just something that wasn't tested by Microsoft, because they didn't think it was necessary. The fact that it broke a competitor is probably just a bonus to them.

    -Ryan!


    "When written in Chinese, the word 'crisis' is composed of two characters.
    One represents danger, and the other represents opportunity."
    -- John F. Kennedy
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