Unix Plagiarism In Linux
MonsieurEvil
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<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Lines from Unix's source code have been copied into the heart of Linux, sometimes exactly and sometimes in a modified form designed to disguise their origin, according to SCO Group Chief Executive Darl McBride.
McBride's accusation cuts to the heart of the open-source movement's legal and philosophical underpinnings.
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We don't have a discussion forum anymore, but things like this particular topic can be considered chat-worthy, as long as no one trolls or flames. Then topic go bye-bye. I do find it a troubling side-effect of opensourcing code, as your project may end up being scuttled after years of work becuase one of your contributors decided to steal rather than create, and you had no way of knowing as the project leader.
It's an interesting read - as always, look over the whole topic before replying or face mod wrath.
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<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Lines from Unix's source code have been copied into the heart of Linux, sometimes exactly and sometimes in a modified form designed to disguise their origin, according to SCO Group Chief Executive Darl McBride.
McBride's accusation cuts to the heart of the open-source movement's legal and philosophical underpinnings.
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We don't have a discussion forum anymore, but things like this particular topic can be considered chat-worthy, as long as no one trolls or flames. Then topic go bye-bye. I do find it a troubling side-effect of opensourcing code, as your project may end up being scuttled after years of work becuase one of your contributors decided to steal rather than create, and you had no way of knowing as the project leader.
It's an interesting read - as always, look over the whole topic before replying or face mod wrath.
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Basicaly the ENTIRE thing is summed up in that tinny blurb.
SCO claims that 'someone' (though they seem to be gunning at IBM) copied and pasted thier code into Linux. They refuse to say what or when.
Then a bunch of Linux people insut SCO and SCO gets flustered and defends. Nothing really comes out.
Bah, I figgured something like this would probably happen eventualy. Intelectual property is such a touchy and hard to grasp field. If you see some one elses code and it hits you WOW thats perfect and you then copy the idea there is a decent idea you will end up with similar lines in your stuff. Meh, it is all really to muddled to be able to tell.
(sorry for any incoherance, I only got 4 hrs of sleep after playing videogames in the CS lab till 6:30 <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->)
thus the ressemblance in the names
Unix -> inux -> Linux
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Exactly, the fact they aren't prepared to even present a single example of this makes me very suspicious. It would be magnitudes easier for SCO devels to steal code from the Linux kernel (even unintentionally) than for the Linux kernel to steal code from SCO.
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SCO had a working relationship with IBM on the Monterey project. Obviously IBM then had access to SCO source. SCO is now claiming persons within IBM took said access to SCO source and used it in some Linux component.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<i>[edit1] uhh, maybe I shouldn't have skipped those days in grade 1 when we were learning to <b>count</b>....</i> <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
Is there wrong doing here? possibly, we'll let the evidence decide
Is SCO gunning for some cash? You betcha
Was linux designed to be a unix clone? you betcha!! And its stated openly too.
But what has me interested is SCO is closed source...so how do you get lines of code again? Inside job? excuse my ignorance if they code is there to rebuild kernels as i have never used and Unix flavor and am a die hard linux fan.