Let The Gorge Be The Leader, Not The Skulks

ThinG · May 2003

Hi all

This is more of an advice/last plea for some understanding
from yours truly, part-time gorge ThinG

Let the gorge define if he wants you to build RT's, DC etc.

Fact is, as long as the team stays maxed on ress, the gorge will get all of the subsequent ress ticks in the full 100%. Believe me, when someone gorges unwanted(ly?) or he goes lerk or does some other funky stuff before the 2nd hive is up, he seriously slows down the ressflow that goes towards the gorge.

Especially all those tooshywankers that go lerk because they like the swooshy sound, and they think they can do what they want, because they think they are very cool doing it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

If the gorge wants you to cap RT, he will tell you. So that means no more saying "gorging to cap RT" while you are actually already gorging/building the bloody RT.

IMO and in my experience, the whole life of the gorge is alot easier if he gets a nice fullressflow, can oversee where RT's and all that are built or not, and the rest of the team is harassing the rines and keeping them inside their base, so the gorge can prance around the map freely...

Just wanted to get that off of my little old heart <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Cheers <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Alias20 · May 2003

Indeed. I hate it when someone evolves to gorge to cap a RP, only to have me waddle over there and plant the tower while they're still an egg.

Cheers,
Alias20

Rue · May 2003

The gorge is the alien commnader in my opinion , thats why i dislike there being more than one gorge unless the original gorges says its ok , but then again some times people know better than you (or think they do) and you just got to get on with it.
btw someone going gorge to build a RT actualy speeds up RP's as long as the RT is not killed and the gorge kills him self rather than 'evolves' to skulk

ThinG · May 2003

1st: really?

2nd:
situation:

"gorging for RT"
NOOO DONT PLEASE
"too late"
ah man !!!
"dont whine I'm getting you an RT"
yeah but it only helps if you will kill yourself
"LMAO no way, that would make my personal score look bad"

[I am criticising two groups of ppl, up to you criminal masterminds to find out wich <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> ]

stealth_ninja_dragoon_of_death · May 2003

Killing your self gets u what? an extra 4 res? i really dont see the point...

Seraph · May 2003

Also, while you are dead, you are getting no res, so that means the gorge is. And correct me if I am mistaken, when you are going gorg --> Skulk, as an egg, you are receiving gorge style res, so priority res.

Isaiah 6

Roobubba · May 2003

negative, while gestating from anything to anything you receive skulk style res.

If I'm wrong, blame it on E. coli <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Turkey2 · May 2003

I think when gestationg you get the res of you last form, if you are gorge and get to skulk I think you still get gorge res while gesting, then again I'm not sure either

CEldin · May 2003

I find it often more time effective on big maps to rather than going back to main hive to build 3 DC, then goin back to open hive to save up to save up at hive and have somone else build the 3 DC. Thats me theory though.

Brave_Ulysses · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Stung256 @ May 1 2003, 02:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I find it often more time effective on big maps to rather than going back to main hive to build 3 DC, then goin back to open hive to save up to save up at hive and have somone else build the 3 DC. Thats me theory though.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
YES! Hence why I endorse having more than one gorge. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Vangor · May 2003

Well off the bat, I can tell you think Leaders mean someone who shouts orders, doesn't work that way. You trust that the vet's will guard you and keep you free from harm, you hope the newbies will do something, and you go about your business. Technically, you are leading, you say which hive you plan to build up, you choose which RT's to build, where you create defense walls, and so on, but, you are thinking of a Leader in this game as an unquestionable authority, whereas even the Marine commander isn't that in most cases, people do their own thing here and there, and know what the comm wants done anyway.

As for two gorges, I think that with 10 + people, two gorges is actually better than just 1. First, each builds an RT, so you have two go up in about a minute after you normally would. (I do believe it has been said that having two gorges doesn't cut in half the amount of res Gorges get, it lowers it but not horridly) Now, with two rt's up, one gorge will go to a hive and begin to save, nothing more. The other gorge however, should go build another RT, and then say 3 DC's. Now, the second hive will begin building only slightly after the one gorge one would, however, now there are 3 DC's, and a third RT, if not more being built by the gorge that wasn't saving.

ThinG · May 2003

don't get so technical

I don't assume anything, and you think wrong, this is just my opinion.

The gorge is there for the team and the team is there for the gorge

The point is to find a way of working that makes everyone happy, if you help keep the gorge alive, keep the ressflow constant, the sooner he can get more hives and upgrades, the sooner the team can evolve and have more fun.

So don't be so serious and aggressive <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

I spend a big deal of my time gorging and I win 90% of those games. I do play at the same server every day, so I know what most ppl in there want/expect and they know what I want/expect a little bit.

There are thousands of players and thousands of tactics, the only problem is each and evry one of those players always thinks he is the one with the only right answer <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

I certainly don't consider myself to be unquestionable, and I don't consider myself to be God <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Last words: Teamwork pwnz, so stick to it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

[/edit]
As I play on a 16 player server mostly, I forgot to mention that I was talking about small teams <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

ZERG · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (stealth ninja dragoon of death @ May 1 2003, 10:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Killing your self gets u what? an extra 4 res? i really dont see the point... </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

What's the point in wasting that 4 res?

Aminal · May 2003

the team isn't the alien commander, the gorge is however the only one who knows what the res is comming in like, whether he can support another gorge or whether he can afford to put up the second hive or those three def chambers you're after.

people should be allowed to go lerk if they like, but they should be good at it and it should fit in the team strategy.

Error404 · May 2003

I disagree with the topic title, that the gorge should be leader. Often the more experienced and knowledgeable players decide not to play gorge at the beginning because although the gorge has an important role, they actually have little idea of what is happening on the map in terms of marine movements and building.

A skulk will always know more than a gorge, thats a fact. The skulk will know what structures the marines have in their base, he'll know whether the marines have a prototype lab for jetpacks. Whether they are upgrading their armory or whether they have motion tracking.

There shouldn't be a leader, everyone should be communicating with each other any information they have, to make the most informed decision. The gorge should be telling the team how many res towers they have and how much res they are receiving, and what they intend to do with it. While the skulks should be informing the gorge of which areas of the map are safe and where not to build a res tower.

Most problems occur when the gorges priorities are different from the teams priorities.

ThinG · May 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Error404: @ May 3 2003, 07:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> There shouldn't be a leader, everyone should be communicating with each other any information they have, to make the most informed decision.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I think that sums it all up, incl what I wanted to express

1 person got the picture at least <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

you just made my evening a little happier <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

im_lost · May 2003

As far as how you get res when evolving, I am pretty sure it is like a skulk. If you are a gorge at 50 res and evolve to get redemption or whatever, you drop back to 33 (1 hive of course).

Let The Gorge Be The Leader, Not The Skulks

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