Ns_concept

Belgarion

<div class="IPBDescription">just a conceptual shot</div> I made this on monday/tuesday. I'm basically looking to see what you think of the lighting/geometry. i know what i think of it, but i'm wondering if there isn't a way to make the lighting a bit better in there.

<a href='http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/belgarion115/images/hl/MyMaps/ns_concept.jpg' target='_blank'>Screen 1 (265kb)</a>

This second shot with the red "lights" is just a 2-second thing i did with PS to see what it would look like if i added little red lights up there, which i'll do when i get home today.

<a href='http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/belgarion115/images/hl/MyMaps/ns_concept-red.jpg' target='_blank'>Screen 2 (264kb)</a>

Let me know what you think and any ideas/suggestions you have. Thanks

Belg

r3men4nt

Looks realy good the only thing is taht door texture is either stretched or missaligned but i cant wait to see any area like that in a map!

Asraniel

Well.. you have realy high polygons for such a not very detailed room. Im not saying that it doesent look good, i love the idea.
But, when you can remove some w_polys, i have 2 ideas.
First, make a handrail(babylon translation...), its realy needed, because what can a marine do when he falls down? and it looks better, much better. Then, make a ladder on each side at the end, for marines and other non wallclimbing creatures that they can return on the top.
And second idea, i dont realy like how much of the windows that are looking in the space are done, not enough detail, make more details on them, i dont know(or better, i know, but my english isnt good enough to describe it)

leifbj

Yea, you will have to keep an eye on your r_speeds. Assuming that that door will be able to be opened, you'll probably go over 700. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

It looks great, though!

Belgarion

-r3men4ant- The door is not missaligned. I spent quite some time making sure it was correct. i made a square and fit the texture to it, then cut out parts along the line of the door. if you look at the entire texture you should be able to see what i mean.

-Asraniel- I realise the wpoly is fairly high, and it's something i'm trying to compensate for. As for falling down, those struts holding the walkway up have func_ladder's on them, but i will put in a railing and see how it looks.

-leifbj- yeah.. the r_speeds seem to be the predominant problem here. but as you said, it looks pretty. ^_^

Belg

Confused

i am in awe

amazing:0

Belgarion

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O.O .... you.. are in awe? .... wow. never thought i'd hear that. Excellent. ^_^ anyway, i've labored at this today and come up with the following. the r_speeds are down to a fairly acceptable level and it looks even better than before. I was looking at all my brushes when i realized i didn't need about half of them. without further ado, here they are.

<img src='http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/belgarion115/images/hl/MyMaps/ns_concept001.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
And number two.
<img src='http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/belgarion115/images/hl/MyMaps/ns_concept002.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

I think i'm basically done with this part. i don't think there is much i can add anymore (and i don't really think i want the railings. marines can get up just fine. i'll impliment something simple for gorges). But if i'm wrong, please by all means let me know. i'm here to learn. Oh, and those doors with the blue around the edges, that really is lighting. ^_^

Belg

iFire

for the bottum do some kind of Tainth forcewall

Maveric

take out the middle beam and move the two remaining closer.

save it as a different file and see how much less w_poly it has, and if it looks just as good. (i think two would look better, also more skulking space <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> )

Vyvn

Quite impressive. It has a kind of eerie, imposing, spacey feel to it. I definitely like it. I especially like the white lights running along the center of the floor--it gives it the feel of a spaceship runway (even if that's not what it is, it's still a Good Thing). But I would definitely reccomend doing a better job with the red lights--either find a new sprite or use red light-textured brushes NULLed on five sides, because as it is they just look like red blobs.

DoctorJuice

Looks very reminiscent of the recently released Public Enemy mod. Nice work. Ceiling texture doesn't quite line upw ith the wall texture IMO

Windelkron

It looks very good.

My suggestions:
keep the red lights out, it looked the best without the red lights.

you ought to make the walkway smaller so it's more dangerous to go on it.

coil

I think the lighting is a little too busy here, especially the red lights. I agree with Wind that it looks better without them.

Secondly, maybe ramp up your gamma a bit? Seems to me you've got a great potential for some nice dramatic shadows below the walkway, but your lights are too strong overall to get it.

Amusingly, I'd conceptualized a walkway almost exactly like this for the map that will never get made. ^^

RyoOhki

Looks very nice, well done so far <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

Interestingly enough the first thing I thought when I saw these shots was OMG! Someone has made a Nuke Nukem 3D level! Awesome!!! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> They just looked quite similar to some of the space missions from that old classic <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

Belgarion

Wow. so many good replies and input. that's why i love this board.

Sounds like the general concensus get rid of the red sprites, but otherwise you guys seem to like it as much as i do. (Recently released mod, eerie feeling, coil's concept map ...... Duke3D O.O?)

I did get rid of one of the generators and make the room shorter as Mav said. The wpoly is down to about 450-500 for the whole thing i think. I did it late last night so i was in a hurry to get to bed. For the same reason i don't have a pic of it, but that might not be a bad thing. I'll impliment your suggestions and possibly reintroduce the grating on the white lights, and get rid of the blue lights underneath the walkway. I have an idea on how to make it a bit more creepy, but i'll keep you in suspence and see if it works first. ^_^ I'll also stick the gamma in there and look into a different texture for the ceiling. I can't wait to get home.... BAH!! I need a laptop.

Belg