Nvidia Vs Ati
<div class="IPBDescription">Who's graphics card would you buy?</div> If you were going to go out and buy a brand new graphics card today, which brand would you rather buy, an Nvidia or ATI card, or neither?
<i>photo of GeForce FX 5800 Ultra and Radeon 9700 Pro</i>
<i>photo of GeForce FX 5800 Ultra and Radeon 9700 Pro</i>
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More graphical do-dahs and thingys
Plus DOOM 3 and HL2 have specific nVidia technology in their engines (I think)
So what if the FX is slower, it does more graphical stuff
And I’m not going to buy a new graph card in some years.
Anyway I think that ATI is much better than Nvidia, because I saw a test between ATI and Nvidia, and ATI won pretty supercilious.
Comparing the latest gf and radeons radeons are coming out on top aswell.
Plus that bloody great fuglyass plastic mess on top of that geforce card clashes with my walls ;p
Although I would be tempted for an FX if the price dropped
but ONLY for the Half-Life 2 content.
The only thing that the GFFX has going for it is 'higher color precision'. Which, sadly, it doesn't use. At all. There are a number of comparison benchmarks out there looking specifically at image quality, and there is NO difference between the Radeon 9700 Pro and the top-end GFFX. Well.. excepting that the Radeon ran faster, quieter, and cooler.
Truly, the only thing the GFFX has over the R9700 is additional pixel shader units onboard. A factor that is being overcome (and then some) by the new Radeon 9800 Pro... along with another speed boost.
Personally, I'd go with an ATI. They already hold the lead against the stuff nVidia can't even get to store shelves, and they're already releasing ANOTHER card which moves even faster. Not to mention that none of them sound like a freaking vacuum cleaner when you put them into 3D mode, unlike the 'FX Flow'.
ill research it cos in the next 8 years i intend to upgrade.... i always just assumed that geforce was better :|
Also, the equivalent of the GeForce4 Ti4200 was supposed to be the Radeon 9500, but usually the 9500/pro benchmarks right around the GF4 Ti4600-4800 range, and even better with high anti-aliasing.
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Radeon 9500 pro is a good choice
Its successor, the Radeon 9600 pro is worse. dont ask why, it was a marketing error from Ati with the 9500...
<a href='http://www.tomshardware.com' target='_blank'>http://www.tomshardware.com</a>
notes: The FX 5800 (the high end one) is inferior to the 9700. (in the disciplines it is superior it is only slightly)
But the 9800 (ati) will be out soon and that, my friends, would not justify the 1 or 2 enhancements the 5800 will get nd you probably won't notice in the heat of action.
edit: and think about your ears. Check this page<a href='http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030127/geforce_fx-06.html' target='_blank'>this page</a> out, and compare the mp3s
and that's not mentioning losing one PCI slot, which might not bother you.
What drivers might you be speaking of?
I really don't have a certain preference between one brand or the other, but I think ATI is starting to pull ahead at the moment. Their new 9800Pro tests better overall in benchmarks, and doesn't have a leafblower attached to it.
Nvidia = sux
Those Nvidia 'tards r selling GF2 cards with the name of GF4.
Nvidia = sux
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If you mean the GeForce 4 MX series, yes, it's based on the GeForce 2 core, but things like that happen. Like Creative Labs advertising the Audigy as a 24bit/96khz sound card when its DAC is only 16/48, and Apple claiming that Macs are as good as top-of-the-line x86 PCs, which is a load of bull. <rant> PowerPC970 might be a good chip as far as RISC is concerned, but it's hardly a match for Intel/AMD on price/performance </rant>*shrug*
ATI has now vastly improved thier driver support and with the new Radeon 9800 Pro they now have the fastest 3D card on the market. The Radeon 9800 and GF FX 5800 cards have similar benchmarks to each other with the nvidia card sometimes beating its ATI rival in a couple of benchmarks. But when you turn on the FSAA and Anisotropic Filtering on both cards the ATI simply steams way ahead of its rival...
before reading this thread i had intended to stick with nvidia because i believe the companies put out equivalent cards (each is approx equal) BUT i understand nvidia's naming system and not ati's random ever increasing numbers.
ive read that ATI's are uberfast but dont actually do games as well, because they have other things hindering them that no one talks about. like... i dont know, antialiasing runs better on nvidias, so you actually get better performance with them in realtime situations, however yall seem to disagree! so, who knows.... ill ahve to research it soemday.
well, by the time i buy a new video card GFFX's will be standard and probably much quieter, who knows who will be "in the lead"
Also, the GFFX's 2x 'performance' FSAA mode /is/ free... because it doesn't DO anything. At all. There are a number of mouseover comparisons, and approximately two pixels shift.. not in hue or saturation, but in position. They literally just flip about ten pixels out of every thousand (zoomed image section was a 100x100 bit of a torch) without doing anything to actually reduce jagginess.
Oh.. and 00039.. when was the last time you actually used the ATI drivers? Since they've been at the top for a number of months, they've REALLY capitalized on the lack of need to play catch-up, and made the Catalyst 3.x drivers absolutely dynamite. Easy to install, auto-detecting, and nearly infinitely tweakable.
And speaking of that, ATI cards still haven't been surpassed. They sit on top, even the aging stuff, pinned up against nVidiot's hottest (literally) cards.
Additionally, the R9700 Pro was the one I saw only marginally beating the GFFX.. all the benches of the R9800 usually score about 10-20% higher, with the occasional /single/ category that the GFFX creeps by in. Given the dedication most benchmarkers have toward providing an optimized GF rendering path, this impresses me quite a lot. And only makes me thumb my nose at nVidia even harder.
works like a charm, just dont buy MX series!