New Games And Old Games
edge_eblan
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alright, random question, ive played many games throughout my life, starting with 8-bit mario, to well... whatever the hell they use for modern games, and i noticed that lots of new games that get the high rankings arent really all that good, except maybe in concept or eye candy, like Black and White. I dont like new games over old, or old games over new, because i like ut2k3 over doom, but i like doom, and i like Tiberium Dawn over Tiberium Sun, and Red Alert 1 over Red Alert 2, and i like Chrono Trigger over Chrono Cross, I like the Final Fantasy series over many newer linear rpgs, but i like free form rpgs like Morrowind.
so what games do you like?
ok, so the topic "new games VS. old games" would have been a bad topic name, (the original name), as the question is not "do you like new games more than old games?" but "what games do you like?"
so what games do you like?
ok, so the topic "new games VS. old games" would have been a bad topic name, (the original name), as the question is not "do you like new games more than old games?" but "what games do you like?"
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my favorite games? i like horror rpgs, action, rpgs, 3d fighting games, ns. ns is the only pc game i play, team fortress was the only other. "MEDIC!"
i'll list a few to give a better idea of what i like:
silent hill
resident evil series
final fantasy series... (playing I and II right now)
parasite eve/ pe2
devil may cry
tekken tag
soul calibur 2
chrono trigger
secret of mana
ggxx
fear effect
super smash bros. melee
see? ...i like all kinds.
my favorite games? i like horror rpgs, action, rpgs, 3d fighting games, ns. ns is the only pc game i play, team fortress was the only other. "MEDIC!"
i'll list a few to give a better idea of what i like:
silent hill
resident evil series
final fantasy series... (playing I and II right now)
parasite eve/ pe2
devil may cry
tekken tag
soul calibur 2
chrono trigger
secret of mana
ggxx
fear effect
super smash bros. melee
see? ...i like all kinds. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
i have played i few of those.
silent hill: not played
resident evil series: not played
final fantasy series: played as many as there are, id imagine Origins? i have the original ff1
pe: not played 1, but beat 2, fun game
Chrono Trigger: great game
fear effect: have it, but havent really played it
super smash bors. melee: played it, like it
yeah, all games are good, but i dont like it how some people assume jk1 is better than doom because its newer, but its not (this is a bad example, but to prove my point).
Another prime example would be what's happening to the Final Fantasy Series, it seems to be geared towards the ADD kids these days. Bigger is not always better.
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Another prime example would be what's happening to the Final Fantasy Series, it seems to be geared towards the ADD kids these days. Bigger is not always better.
If you're looking for a good RPG that doesn't have outstanding graphics, but makes up for it in gameplay, plot, and many many many other things, try this website <a href='http://www.spidweb.com/' target='_blank'>Spiderweb Software. Who am I kidding, this is an OUTWAR LINK!</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
have you played snes ffs and ps1 ffs and nes ffs? they really good, play 9, 7 and below, those are better. havent tried moo3, but i have moo2, moo2 is ok, slow in multiplayer tho
forgot, thanks for reminding me, what do ffs mean then? i always call the final fantasy series like FFI, FFII,FFVI
/me huggles Bliz
i feel the same way.
i was **** off by the N64 and how first, they canceled Earthbound 64, and Metroid 64, 2nd, how the Zelda games were only "50 hours" cuz the damn plains in the middle of all the places took to damn long walk, so you spent 5 hours doing that, and the whole game was ruined by "Oh, we dont know you, but we'll help you antway, jus cuz." Past was far better, so much better that i dont think any other zelda can compete against it.
Mario 64 was **** compared to the original 3 marios, the whole "Collect stars to get to the next level" is not mario, Mario gets INVULNERABILITY when he gets a star, no that star point crap. "Get a 120 stars and you can talk to Yoshi, who gives you 100 lives," by then you dont NEED 100 lives, the game is over, that was a stupid idea.
Diablo II, the worst thing ever. fine ok, first time through, but to get the good items, you need to go at least 3 times through, and you need to get to level 90 or something, way to much time, but people actually go to the xtremes and think the game is great!! its to damn repetative, so repetative that is sucks. going through mario 1000 times is less repetative than Diablo 2, which is real sad.
but i totally agree with you, programmers are getting lazy, Final Fantasy 9, 7 and below are better than 8 and 10, 10 was ok, but the story was simple, to simple for a final fantasy, and the main characters were sorry, while Terra in Final Fantasy 6 was a very interesting character.
the "eyecandy" development is also affecting movies, some new movies are just a bunch of fight scenes, and the newer star wars movies just gota "fake" feel to them. - not like LOTR where every weapon/armor costume/scene HAS been made real.
about new games, old games, im in the middle, but towards old games. if i just could find a DOS/win 3.11 pc so i can run them again properly.
ut2k3 very OVER RATED more eye candy then gameplay, quake 3 has better gameplay IMO. just because a game is older and looks like crap compared to the new stuff does not mean its worse then the new stuff. sometimes a newer game can come out and be great, and that doesnt mean all old games were awesome. alot of old games were horrible. the point to this post is, eye candy doesnt make the game, sure it helps but as long as the gameplay is there, thats all that matters.
ut2k3 very OVER RATED more eye candy then gameplay, quake 3 has better gameplay IMO. just because a game is older and looks like crap compared to the new stuff does not mean its worse then the new stuff. sometimes a newer game can come out and be great, and that doesnt mean all old games were awesome. alot of old games were horrible. the point to this post is, eye candy doesnt make the game, sure it helps but as long as the gameplay is there, thats all that matters. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
exactly, newer games get over rated because of eye candy, ye, ut2k3 had good graphics, but i dont like the skins, yes they looked good, but i like the marine skins in UT better, my favorite skin was Othello, same body as Malcom, but he face was different.
Diablo II was to repetative, even mario isnt as repetative, i agree with dirty harry potter, the game would be more standable if there were quests and there was more than one way to solve them, (hacks dont count, which is another thing about diablo2). Also, most quests don have anything to do with the game, "Get me a golden Eagle." Why? it has nothing to do with the game what so ever. Kill the Smith monster. Oh good, charsi can enchant your armor or weapons, but what does that have to do with the story?
Final Fantasy I was fun as it was, and the characters never spoke, well, except when you looked into the water fountain, your gain said "Your face is dirty, better clean it" or something like that. Final Fantasy X was also fun, but it lost a lot of the "Final Fantasy" quality, the game was short, and when you got the airship, the game was easy, i killed the last boss in the game in 3 hits, and i wasnt even at max power!!! Choas (FFI) took me about 13 hits, and i only won because of pure luck and the fact that my characters did about 200 damage minimun and choas only had 2000 health, and used Cure4 at the beginning at the fight, (guesss he can only use it once).
Final Fantasy VIII probably had a horrible group of characters, and there was really "little fantasy" in it. Sure, VII was a techno age of some sort, but it was fun, not ridiculously stupid, and the characters were much cooler.
But, to not say older games are better, i do like Morrowind a helluva alot more than many other rpgs, (like Quest 64). And i like Breath of Fire IV better than BOF3.