Hiding In Kharaa Resource Towers

Error404 · April 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">Error404: brings you another tactic!</div> <u><b>Hiding In Kharaa Resource Towers</b></u>

Skulks have the advantage of cover while attacking Marine resource towers, and guess what? -so do Marines. As you are all probably already aware, gorges often jump inside their resource tower to hide while they build it. Marines can do that too.

<u>Hiding</u>

I see lots of marines die as they stand around a Kharaa resource tower cutting it down with their knife. Wouldn't it be cool if you didn't? A Gorge can hide inside a resource tower while healing it at the same time, stalling the death of the structure while marines destroy it, so can a Marine jump inside this Resource Tower and begin cutting it from the inside.

The marine jumps up, into the Kharaa resource tower, and can either shoot the walls from inside, or crouch towards the node in the ground and slash in that direction. In the meantime, he will be undetected and visually unsighted, although any nearby offence chambers will begin shooting at him, as far as I know the resource tower should provide protection from them.

Killing Kharaa resource towers this way can effectively damage their economy greatly.

<u>Uses</u>

Apart from being great to sneak around maps without detection, there are plenty of other uses that if you are smart enough, you can apply to your tactics and strategies. I won't tell you what they might be, thats for you to experiment and discover.

Lord_Of_The_Pings · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Error404: @ Apr 14 2003, 05:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <u><b>Hiding In Kharaa Resource Towers</b></u>

Skulks have the advantage of cover while attacking Marine resource towers, and guess what? -so do Marines. As you are all probably already aware, gorges often jump inside their resource tower to hide while they build it. Marines can do that too.

<u>Hiding</u>

I see lots of marines die as they stand around a Kharaa resource tower cutting it down with their knife. Wouldn't it be cool if you didn't? A Gorge can hide inside a resource tower while healing it at the same time, stalling the death of the structure while marines destroy it, so can a Marine jump inside this Resource Tower and begin cutting it from the inside.

The marine jumps up, into the Kharaa resource tower, and can either shoot the walls from inside, or crouch towards the node in the ground and slash in that direction. In the meantime, he will be undetected and visually unsighted, although any nearby offence chambers will begin shooting at him, as far as I know the resource tower should provide protection from them.

Killing Kharaa resource towers this way can effectively damage their economy greatly.

<u>Uses</u>

Apart from being great to sneak around maps without detection, there are plenty of other uses that if you are smart enough, you can apply to your tactics and strategies. I won't tell you what they might be, thats for you to experiment and discover.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
OMG i found that out ages ago crazy huh?

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just kiddin its a good tactic....but I was there first <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Error404 · April 2003

Well, we're not all as smart or leet as you! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Paq · April 2003

Well i have done that few times. RT doesn't give you any protection, if there is a OC nearby. It will kill you.

And another problem is with knifing. When you crouch and start to slash, that annoying jittering starts.
You know, the screen shakes and stuff....

But yes, it is fun when aliens doesn't see you. But usually your hand, leg or head pops out the RT, if you look at it from several directions.

evilops · April 2003

Aye can work on the stupid aliums but they'll figure it out sooner or later
"hey it just said res tower under attack and i heard a knife sound... cant see anyone... ohwell"

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FlatlineUTD · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Well i have done that few times. RT doesn't give you any protection, if there is a OC nearby. It will kill you.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>Exactly. Most Gorges that know how to play the resource denial game will put up an OC at every node.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>And another problem is with knifing. When you crouch and start to slash, that annoying jittering starts.
You know, the screen shakes and stuff....</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
I don't think he was planning on attacking while he was in it, he said you could use it to get around undetected.

It's kinda fun, but people have been doing it for months. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Error404 · April 2003

Flatline are you on an english server?

FlatlineUTD · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Error404: @ Apr 14 2003, 09:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Flatline are you on an english server? </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
What? I only use US servers when I play. But, I'm currently taking a break from NS until 1.1 comes out.

tseepra · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flatline[UTD] @ Apr 14 2003, 04:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> currently taking a break from NS until 1.04 comes out.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> You can stop waiting, it came out a long long time ago.

Yeah I know you meant 1.1 <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

FlatlineUTD · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tseepra @ Apr 14 2003, 09:49 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flatline[UTD] @ Apr 14 2003, 04:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> currently taking a break from NS until 1.04 comes out. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> You can stop waiting, it came out a long long time ago.

Yeah I know you meant 1.1 <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Nice catch. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

I was GOING to type 'taking a break from 1.04' but you know what happens. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

roachems · April 2003

whats really fun is when you hide in a resource tower, knife it a little bit then sit there quietly, when a gorge comes back to heal it, UNLEASH THE FURY<span style='color:red'> </span>

CheesyPeteza · April 2003

I've been doing this for ages as a gorge and it has saved my life many a time. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> It rarely seems to work as marine though, I think my gun must be sticking out. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Anyway using cl_centerentityid "1" makes it a lot easier to spot hidden gorges/marines and also see through the closed doors on ns_eclipse. :o Reminds me of cs_747. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

XCan · April 2003

I don't understand, even if you're in the tower the aliens still hear. RT is under attack.. Well it might work vs inexperienced skulks, but never worked on me. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Paq · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>whats really fun is when you hide in a resource tower, knife it a little bit then sit there quietly, when a gorge comes back to heal it, UNLEASH THE FURY </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Probably when you slash a RT, first alien isn't gorge who comes to check about what happened.
It will more likely be a skulk. Or do you run to a RT with gorge, if you hear that *resource tower is under attack* warning? I think you don't, unless if you have uber heal spray / spit combo skillz <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Anyway using cl_centerentityid "1" makes it a lot easier to spot hidden gorges/marines and also see through the closed doors on ns_eclipse. :o Reminds me of cs_747. </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
WTH?? H4X? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'>

Oh, and that RT camping doesn't work if someone of the alien team press flashlight button. Because it will make that RT transparent.

Amorphous · April 2003

Small problem with this. If the skulk is using hivesite your screwed buddy.

Error404 · April 2003

Okay, this probably should have been posted in the Kharaa forum. Anyway, the best way to dodge a skulk if you are knifing from the outside, is to jump thru the resource tower.

Error404 · April 2003

BTW, if you crouch with your knife, look downwards to position your crosshairs over the res node, you should be completely hidden.

Asal_The_Unforgiving · April 2003

i've seen this done, but if a skulk finds you you are totally defenseless, i prefer to stay on the ground and watch, so that i know what i'm up against and can fight back.....i was never one for being easy prey. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'>

Sh0g · April 2003

FIrst of all, my english is crappy, so...

I remember, once I was hidden in a res, at their hive (it was in Noname hive).

Our com researched Motion tracking also.

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-I started to slash the res for 2sec, then stopped.

I saw 1 blue circles incoming to me. The skull came, watched around the res, then left the place.

-I slashed the res again, for 2 sec.

This time, i saw 2 blue circles. 2 skulls came near me, patroled around, then left the place again. I was so LOL behind my screen.

- I slashed the res a last time.

I saw like 6 blue circles coming to me. 5 skulls and a gorge.

All together around me, screwing and chewing around, probably looking for an invisible marine lol.

Finally, a gorge smarter then the others, watched the res for 4sec, then spit to me.

Bah. I was killed in 1sec by 5 skulls, but well, that was hilarious.

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Asal_The_Unforgiving · April 2003

Here's the thing. You cut that res a little.........but if you were out there you could cut it some more, shoot the skulk....then continue to hack. when the others came, with a little luck and some skill you could take out all three of them (the two that came next, and the one that spawned). At this point, you have thier whole team mad at you, and you can then give your team a VERY large advantage by merely STILL BEING THERE for as long as possible, as your friends move around, and take out other res or secure some of your own. What we have here, is a question, can you hold your own for long enough to make it useful to your team, or do you need to hide and protect yourself, causing minor distractions. Neither is all that very useful, except when you have enough skill to do both. Therefor, whatever you prefer works, but I STILL don't like being exposed to the enemy like that. My LMG is trustworthy enough that I'll stand my ground and cause problems, which may or may not be useful. GL in whatever you do, it's definately not easy to pull either one off. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'>

roachems · April 2003

dont mind the petty details. kill the gorge! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'>

Alien_Bob · April 2003

Of course, the wise gorge builds an OC *inside* the res tower. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Twilight_Wolf · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Alien Bob @ Apr 15 2003, 05:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Of course, the wise gorge builds an OC *inside* the res tower. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Reading this Thread from the beginning, I just wondered why nobody presented this simple solution (for the aliens) <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Dunkin_Dynamite · April 2003

the OCs inside RTs are pretty easy to take down actually. I think all my bullets are going into the OC and not the RT.. in which case the aliens have a continual ambiguous 'structure under attack' that annoys the hell out of them .. muahaha

If stray bullets do hit the RT, maybe the message will be garbled, even better - although the res node will flash and for me flashing res nodes are much easier to find than a fuxxin 'structure'

ThE_HeRo · April 2003

It works well when you're trying to evade a bloodthirsty pack of ravenous skulks.

Appelhorne · April 2003

Can't aliens use their flashlight to see through the resource tower?

Paq · April 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Appelhorne @ Apr 16 2003, 07:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Can't aliens use their flashlight to see through the resource tower? </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
From the page one:
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That_Annoying_Kid · April 2003

I always put an OC in A RT, and I always guard my RT and I usually have the flashlight on, so If I see a marine hiding in the towers, then they go by by
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Tinker · April 2003

It fooled me the first time....but after that I took to flying through the towers biting.

SinSpawn · April 2003

lol i saw some one do this when i played today, i was kharaa i noticed straight away with 3 of my team mates and we had a nice snack, this tactic is only useful if you know exactly how far or in your in the resource tower and if your clipping, if not its a waste of time

roachems · April 2003

I hid like this. waiting for backup, until he finally killed the res node and 4 marines shot me.

the point is i hid!!

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Hiding In Kharaa Resource Towers

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