Yeah I'm thinking about uninstalling NS, its sucking me in deeper and deeper while I have more important things to do. Since self-control ain't helping me, maybe I need to temporarily uninstall NS for a few week. Its just so damn addicting.
I am happy to say that since I have been playing NS, I have been sucked so far in that, I plan things around NS, not NS around my Life. Except for school. I have to get an education to make money to buy better computers and more Anime. Aren't my priorities are nice!
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
Why I keep a backup NS system, just in case. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> As it stands though, and assuming the intent of the original post, I have to agree... a lot of matches turn into big tubs of not-fun when the marines ONLY go for the JP/HMG rush, time and time again, and there's very little that a pubbin' team can do against it.
Anyone have a Metamod/Adminmod plugin available to disable jetpacks, raise the cost, or at least slow their research time a LOT.. while we wait for the full fix in v1.1?
I wont miss you <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Although it is getting boring, I hate JP/HMG rushing from the marines point of view just as much as from aliens. Because now that's all anyone does, you never see heavy armor, or grenade launchers, or even shotguns anymore. It's all just sit around and guard res nodes and then RUSH THE HIVE AHHH And if you say anything against it your automatically branded n00b by everyone in the server. Even the alien team will say WTH he says no JP/HMG rush what a noob o_o
We should get rid of jetpacks temporarily just so people can learn how to play a real game again...not a 2 minute tech rush.
That_Annoying_KidSire of TitlesJoin Date: 2003-03-01Member: 14175Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin---Vash-+Apr 3 2003, 05:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (-Vash- @ Apr 3 2003, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Although it is getting boring, I hate JP/HMG rushing from the marines point of view just as much as from aliens. Because now that's all anyone does, you never see heavy armor, or grenade launchers, or even shotguns anymore. It's all just sit around and guard res nodes and then RUSH THE HIVE AHHH And if you say anything against it your automatically branded n00b by everyone in the server. Even the alien team will say WTH he says no JP/HMG rush what a noob o_o
We should get rid of jetpacks temporarily just so people can learn how to play a real game again...not a 2 minute tech rush. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> very very true, thats why I play with vash the stampede, who sucks, and hasn't discovered the "joys" of tech rush (he is an elite commander, who doesn't rush)
tru dat vash...i mean back in like 1.01 like no1 ever used jetpacks and when i came back like a few days ago to 1.04 (i quit NS in like vs1.02) like i nvr saw the scary site of a guy with ha/hmg. ..and strategys have all changed....its crazy!
That_Annoying_KidSire of TitlesJoin Date: 2003-03-01Member: 14175Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin--GWAR+Apr 3 2003, 04:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GWAR @ Apr 3 2003, 04:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I wont miss you <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> that partnered with the beaver made me laugh so hard (but it's somewhat true, however I will miss the TEAMWORK WORKS (which it does!) sig)
i just had such a bad game with one guy (remember this is suppose to be a teamwork game) ramboing with a jetpack and hmg killing everything in sight. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
i will come back for 1.1 though
i love this game, i love the concept, i love flayra, i love this fourm, i love you all but i need time to cool down
I'm taking a break from NS til 1.1, myself, but it's been interrupted by a few sporadic games of NS. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
hell yah, i haven't played since the annoucement of 1.1 Ive just been playin' other mods, like the Specialists and paintball crap, natural selection 1.04 didnt seem fun to me when 1.1 was announced, i lost interest real fast all of the sudden
I haven't played NS in a few weeks because 1.04 was getting a bit boring, and I don't want to get sick of it before 1.1 comes out. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Strange thing happened the other day. I saw HEAVY ARMOUR! Yep, it's apparently still in the game <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> Actually that marine team went on to completly own us (weird how so many marine teams don't appreciate the sheer power of that armour).
Here is all little revelation... I played every version of NS but not 1.04 <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> I left when jetpack was starting to become popular
Maybe I should reinstall HL again to see this tech rush in action <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--redeemed darkness+Apr 4 2003, 06:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (redeemed darkness @ Apr 4 2003, 06:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Here is all little revelation... I played every version of NS but not 1.04 <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> I left when jetpack was starting to become popular
Maybe I should reinstall HL again to see this tech rush in action <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Seems kinda stupid posting on the forums for a game you dont even play.
Oh I do but not since I got addicted to some other games a couple of months ago
Also I hang around just to annoy you <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
Well i haven't lost my interest to 1.04....yet <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
And i dont see much jp/hmg rushes in those server where i play (at least in first 5 minutes). If there are lots of clan members, i dont even join in that server, because i know that all of them always want to pwn with jets at their super fast computers.
I dont use jetpacks much, i like more HA. The reason why i dont like jets is because i cant kill a hive with them (fps is too low in defended hive rooms and i drop on the floor very quickly).
Full upgraded jp/hmg marines can be stopped with webs, spikes and acid rockets, but fully upgraded HA/hmg team is unstoppable with 2 hive aliens and it is hard even with three hives. <--- I have experienced that many times......peeps just dont realize how good HA actually is <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Ryo-Ohki+Apr 4 2003, 12:23 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ryo-Ohki @ Apr 4 2003, 12:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Strange thing happened the other day. I saw HEAVY ARMOUR! Yep, it's apparently still in the game <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> Actually that marine team went on to completly own us (weird how so many marine teams don't appreciate the sheer power of that armour).
Cya back in 2 or 3 months... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That's probably because, when combined with a comm that doesn't give welders or a team that refuses to weld, HA is about as weak as an unupgraded LMG marine. Sure, you can take more hits, but you're so slow that, in the time it takes you to get to a hive, the skulks have plenty of time to get those hits.
<!--QuoteBegin--Paq+Apr 4 2003, 09:19 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Paq @ Apr 4 2003, 09:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well i haven't lost my interest to 1.04....yet <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
And i dont see much jp/hmg rushes in those server where i play (at least in first 5 minutes). If there are lots of clan members, i dont even join in that server, because i know that all of them always want to pwn with jets at their super fast computers.
I dont use jetpacks much, i like more HA. The reason why i dont like jets is because i cant kill a hive with them (fps is too low in defended hive rooms and i drop on the floor very quickly).
Full upgraded jp/hmg marines can be stopped with webs, spikes and acid rockets, but fully upgraded HA/hmg team is unstoppable with 2 hive aliens and it is hard even with three hives. <--- I have experienced that many times......peeps just dont realize how good HA actually is <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Uh, are you aware of how fast an onos can mow down a few ha lads with it's stampede thing attack? Fast, like! And 4 fades with lerk and gorge backup > 5 ha marines.
I don't know how many times in the past couple of weeks I've made a mental note to myself to give NS a bit of a break, but it just does'nt seem to happen. Being from South Africa with a small community it took a while for the JP/HMG thing to rear it ugly head down here.
I'm a seriously chilled out person but man o' man NS has been putting me in a bad mood lately, there's probably about 3 decent comm's in the whole country and now that all of them have latched onto JP/HMG I find myself pulling my hair out <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
But you know what, no matter how frustrating it is I'll probably smoke a fat one tonight and have a long evening of NS...again <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--wlibaers+Apr 4 2003, 10:59 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wlibaers @ Apr 4 2003, 10:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> (stuff about HA)...but you're so slow that, in the time it takes you to get to a hive, the skulks have plenty of time to get those hits. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> HA doesn't slow you down much at all. It's the HMG and welder that causes slowdown. Try it.
Well have any of you noticed that JP/HMG rush has died down overtime? Usually aliens have 2 hives by the time jetpacks and HMGs are readily available and da webs can screw it all up in one instant since marines still get killed as easily. Now I find its only good in killing Hive #1 fast after securing 2 hives.
The longer NS 1.04 has been out, the more it seems to be becoming like NS 1.02 ; the one where securing 2 hives was EVERYTHING and aliens would have a nearly guaranteed win if they failed to do so. I think the reason being that so many tactics and counter-tactics get discovered until the game is bound down to old basic playstyle again cuz people fear the counter-tactics of their newer tactics.
ah well, it beats being scrubs. In the mean time, Im gonna study each map like the back of my hand. Cya later.
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As it stands though, and assuming the intent of the original post, I have to agree... a lot of matches turn into big tubs of not-fun when the marines ONLY go for the JP/HMG rush, time and time again, and there's very little that a pubbin' team can do against it.
Anyone have a Metamod/Adminmod plugin available to disable jetpacks, raise the cost, or at least slow their research time a LOT.. while we wait for the full fix in v1.1?
We should get rid of jetpacks temporarily just so people can learn how to play a real game again...not a 2 minute tech rush.
We should get rid of jetpacks temporarily just so people can learn how to play a real game again...not a 2 minute tech rush. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
very very true, thats why I play with vash the stampede, who sucks, and hasn't discovered the "joys" of tech rush (he is an elite commander, who doesn't rush)
that partnered with the beaver made me laugh so hard
(but it's somewhat true, however I will miss the TEAMWORK WORKS (which it does!) sig)
i just had such a bad game with one guy (remember this is suppose to be a teamwork game) ramboing with a jetpack and hmg killing everything in sight. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
i will come back for 1.1 though
i love this game, i love the concept, i love flayra, i love this fourm, i love you all
but i need time to cool down
once agian sorry
I'm taking a break from NS til 1.1, myself, but it's been interrupted by a few sporadic games of NS. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Ive just been playin' other mods, like the Specialists and paintball crap, natural selection 1.04 didnt seem fun to me when 1.1 was announced, i lost interest real fast all of the sudden
Cya back in 2 or 3 months...
I played every version of NS but not 1.04 <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
I left when jetpack was starting to become popular
Maybe I should reinstall HL again to see this tech rush in action <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
I played every version of NS but not 1.04 <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
I left when jetpack was starting to become popular
Maybe I should reinstall HL again to see this tech rush in action <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Seems kinda stupid posting on the forums for a game you dont even play.
Also I hang around just to annoy you <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
And i dont see much jp/hmg rushes in those server where i play (at least in first 5 minutes).
If there are lots of clan members, i dont even join in that server, because i know that all of them always want to pwn with jets at their super fast computers.
I dont use jetpacks much, i like more HA. The reason why i dont like jets is because i cant kill a hive with them (fps is too low in defended hive rooms and i drop on the floor very quickly).
Full upgraded jp/hmg marines can be stopped with webs, spikes and acid rockets, but fully upgraded HA/hmg team is unstoppable with 2 hive aliens and it is hard even with three hives. <--- I have experienced that many times......peeps just dont realize how good HA actually is <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Cya back in 2 or 3 months... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's probably because, when combined with a comm that doesn't give welders or a team that refuses to weld, HA is about as weak as an unupgraded LMG marine. Sure, you can take more hits, but you're so slow that, in the time it takes you to get to a hive, the skulks have plenty of time to get those hits.
And i dont see much jp/hmg rushes in those server where i play (at least in first 5 minutes).
If there are lots of clan members, i dont even join in that server, because i know that all of them always want to pwn with jets at their super fast computers.
I dont use jetpacks much, i like more HA. The reason why i dont like jets is because i cant kill a hive with them (fps is too low in defended hive rooms and i drop on the floor very quickly).
Full upgraded jp/hmg marines can be stopped with webs, spikes and acid rockets, but fully upgraded HA/hmg team is unstoppable with 2 hive aliens and it is hard even with three hives. <--- I have experienced that many times......peeps just dont realize how good HA actually is <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Uh, are you aware of how fast an onos can mow down a few ha lads with it's stampede thing attack? Fast, like! And 4 fades with lerk and gorge backup > 5 ha marines.
I'm a seriously chilled out person but man o' man NS has been putting me in a bad mood lately, there's probably about 3 decent comm's in the whole country and now that all of them have latched onto JP/HMG I find myself pulling my hair out <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
But you know what, no matter how frustrating it is I'll probably smoke a fat one tonight and have a long evening of NS...again <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
HA doesn't slow you down much at all. It's the HMG and welder that causes slowdown.
Try it.
The longer NS 1.04 has been out, the more it seems to be becoming like NS 1.02 ; the one where securing 2 hives was EVERYTHING and aliens would have a nearly guaranteed win if they failed to do so. I think the reason being that so many tactics and counter-tactics get discovered until the game is bound down to old basic playstyle again cuz people fear the counter-tactics of their newer tactics.
ah well, it beats being scrubs. In the mean time, Im gonna study each map like the back of my hand. Cya later.