Will We Get Better Fps In 1.1?
Shloom
Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 997Members
Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 997Members
<div class="IPBDescription">sorry if this has been talked aboot</div> ok i heard that there will be less lagg in 1. but will the fps be any better? like this mod probly runs worse then any other half life mod out there and i can see why there are hundreds of models all over the maps but people with low end machines(like me) get a frame rate of 10-20 and it makes it realy realy hard to shoot anything
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sorry if this has been discussed befor
*hides in flame proof bunker*
sorry if this has been discussed befor
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2) The server CPU usage will drop in 1.1 AFAIK there may be a knock-on effect on client side frame rates, though <i>my personal interpretation</i> is that this won't be a huge performance gain.
3) Please don't tell me you use software rendering.
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and what is software rendering (sorry i'm a total idiot so bare with meh)
A. Don't know how to change it
B. Has a graphic card from the time Moses wore diapers
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EDIT: Darn you LoboLeal !
You beat me to it...
Suppose that's just right seeing as how my explaination wasen't all that good...
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LOL, I like your explaination too!!!. And its totally true.
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It does acctually support software...
I saw some moderator said Flayra said he wont be supporting it in future vers though
Haven't seen Flayra say it in person
hehe
The only explanations for FPS that low with a radeon are:
1) Slow CPU. Easiest solution: new computer. Harder solution: replace CPU and probably motherboard.
2) No RAM. Right-click on My Computer and select Properties to view how much RAM you have. Solution: buy more RAM - make sure you get the right kind for your computer.
3) TONS of processes running in the background. Solution: close other things down before you run HL!
4) Wrong video mode. Open HL's Configuration - Video - Video Mode, and try OpenGL, or Direct3D if that doesn't work.
As a side note, make sure you have the most up-to-date drivers for your video and sound cards. Visit Radeon's site (and whatever your soundcard maker's site is) and get the most recent drivers. You might also want to upgrade DirectX.
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Athlon 1.3
512 Mb
Hercules Prophet II MX
OpenGL mode 1024x768
60fps. That's it.
EDIT : To avoid posting again. "Kick **** comp"? Eeeek. I don't think so. This machine is assembled from scavenged bits because I had no job at the time. Guys, 256Mb is ?30 now, as is the Athlon chip. Fork out. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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Kickass comp
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384MB RAM
Win2kpro
nVidia GeForce2 MX 32
OpenGL 1024x768
I get anywhere from 45-60fps in any HL mod.
They had 800MHz 3.5 years ago ?
You people have downloaded the latest Detonator Drivers, yes?
1.67GHz Athlon XP 2000
512mb DDR Ram
64mb GeForce4 TI4200
1024x768 32bpp
80-100 fps in natural selection, more in other mods usually.
I used to be running my card with 8x anisotropic filtering. I turned it off and got a huge framerate boost.
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You know nothing at all.
I've played HL mods on systems ranging from a Celeron 466/TNT2 to an XP 1800/GeForce3 and the one thing I noticed is that a fast vid card will give you a high top end fps but it won't give you a stable frame rate. On my Thunderbird 1.2/GeForce2 Ti I run in 1280x960 with vsynch off and get 100 fps pretty much constantly (drops to mid seventies in heavy action). If I go to 1024x768 and vsynch on I get 85 fps constant.
Compare to the comp I sit at now, my gf's Duron 700/GeForce2 MX, playing 640x480 with vsynch off I can still get up to 90 fps but it is always around 20-30 when looking at teammates and when fighting it drops to around 14-15. If I were to throw in my old Thunderbird 900 into her comp it would drastically change the fps.
My suggestion would be this. Find out whatever processor your mobo can take and get 1GHz-1.4GHz version of that processor. And for god sakes if it takes Celeron/Pentium3's buy a P3. Likewise if it takes Durons and Athlons buy an Athlon. L2 cache is the bomb yo. This will give you beastified performance in all HL mods because basically once you've hit a certain point beastier hardware has no effect. Trust me on this. I know tons of guys at school who play only CS and they all bought brand new P4 2GHz with GeForce 4 Titaniums and that is total overkill for Half-Life. You could get an Athlon 1.33 (not an Athlon XP) for like 50 bucks off pricewatch and that will give you all the horsepower you will need for HL mods. Pentiums are more expensive though.
After that make sure you have mass RAM. 256MB at least, 512MB perferred.
Use OpenGL for Half-Life, it looks nicer and give more framerates. Note my experience is with NVidia based cards but HL always runs better in OpenGL so I assume it's the same with ATi based cards.
Finally all you chumps getting 60 constant or 72 constant. Tune your rig. If you are getting 72 constant you are running with your vertical synch off. To get those sweet sweet 100fps you need to change fps_max to 101 in your config, right now it's at 72 cause thats what HL defaults to. It's a holdover from the days when fps was related to connection speed. If you have 60fps constant you are playing with vertical synch on which will limit you to the refresh rate of your monitor. Windows 2000 and XP have bugs resetting the refresh rate to 60 when in video games, no matter what you set it to in Windows and no matter what resolution you run at. The new Nvidia drivers allow you to override the refresh rates in the drivers so you can manually set 1024x768 to 85Hz and when you play with vsynch on you will magically get 85fps instead of 60. Of course fps_max must be set to at least 85. There is also a utility called NVRefreshTool that will accomplish the same thing, for NVidia cards only. Sorry ATi guys, I don't know of a similar tool for you.
EDIT: I forgot to mention, turn off Full Scene Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic Filtering. If these are on turning them off in your display settings will increase frames massively. If you ever get 1.4+ GHz processor you can probably turn FSAA to 4x and get prettier graphics and still good frames. /EDIT.
Anyways let's recap.
1. Faster processor
2. More RAM, RAM is king.
3. Tune your rig.
I hope this helps you out.
Your Pal,
Jerry P.