Forum Bitching

Mr-StabbyMr-Stabby Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14401Banned
<div class="IPBDescription">Not so much here, but it happens!</div> Its weird how lately a lot of forums (i'm not sure about this one because i haven't been here long) have bitching matches, and thats all ppl post about, i mean on DoD forums every1 is getting banned for no reason, and on forums i go on its exactly the same, y is this

I mean the forum i run

<a href='http://www.halflifeforum.com' target='_blank'>http://www.halflifeforum.com</a>

None of that happens, Since the forum is a neutral area for all mods, ppl don't start moaning about how crap a mod is or somert, its just half life chat, surely thats what a forum is for. What are your thoughts

Comments

  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    Well thats a very good question Mr Stabby. Would any of our more experienced fourum users like to enlighten us on this subject?
  • DunsbyDunsby Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1042Awaiting Authorization
    Because <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->CS Causes Potty-Mouth<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • Mr-StabbyMr-Stabby Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14401Banned
    yeah ppl have mentioned to me that its the dirty side of the CS community that cause probs

    Its weird how the TFC community never has any wankers on it, and yet when i play on most CS servers, u always get an A HOLE!

    WHY I JUST WANT TO <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SaltySalty Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 6970Members
    what TFC servers did you play on?
  • Mr-StabbyMr-Stabby Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14401Banned
    whichever is the fastest and fullest at the time

    But at the moment i have been playing on the Wireplay servers on Steam

    The admin there is real nice bloke

    anyway, go to my forum or <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • folkfolk Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8603Banned
    stop advertising. never is enough.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Being the mod-**** that I am, I've been involved with several game communities directly, and quite a few more indirectly. So I've seen firsthand why and how communities turn to crap and bite the dust.

    Usually, it starts with elitism between the older ranks and the new players (or something else to divide people). The tricky part here is it can actually not even seem like elitism to the older ranks. They may genuinely be helpful and friendly people, yet if you aren't very careful and constantly on the look out for it, elitism can build up very, very fast. This is what has happened with the mod communities I've been with (I won't name names, but those who know me know exactly which ones I'm talking about). Again I say, its easy for this one to creep up. It was even starting to happen here a bit, but thankfully I think that has receeded.

    After elitism gets set in, things go downhill fast. Very fast. I'm talking maybe within a few months a place will go from a cheery newcomer-welcoming place to a hellhouse. Whether people get alienated, or there are "wars" amongst groups, or something else, whatever happens things go downhill.

    Why has NS not gone this route yet? It could be one or more of several things.

    - NS is still the newest big HL mod, perhaps there just hasn't been enough time for things to go downhill yet.

    - The NS community standards are by far higher and stricter than other communities. The biggest example of this is the strict language/content guidelines set up by the NS team for the forums and IRC, as well as the enforcement of them. I applaud the NS team for taking the stand they did on this issue.

    - Due to the complex nature of the mod, a different (more mature perhaps) crowd is drawn to it, thus making this less of a problem? Note: its less, people are still stupid people, regardless of age...

    So which of these are correct? Will NS eventually fall to the level that other communities are at? I sure hope not, and as an op in #ns I'm going to try my damnedest to keep that from happening.
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    I salute DOOManiac for his excellent post,
    and *knocks on wood* *repeats because redundancy is your friend* the NS forums go downhill (WHICH THEY WON'T!) I will still avidly play NS, becuase it's a very cool game
  • joevjoev Giving grief... With a smile. Join Date: 2002-07-20 Member: 977Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    *sigh* Sign of the times I guess... a great deal of people are really tetchy these days. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    All the mods can do is do our best to difuse arguements.

    Everyone should learn to take 10 deep breaths when we read something that gets up our noses... Then think about posting... then think some more... then not bother <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Wishful thinking I guess... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    For now we'll just keep on *enforcing* peace thru Superior Firepower instead <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Now all I want is for Monse to step outta line so I can give him a feel of my boot <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    joev.

    P.S. I lub u Monsey... cept when you're in the pink tutu... that's just sick dude <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Mr-StabbyMr-Stabby Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14401Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Mar 28 2003, 11:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Mar 28 2003, 11:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Being the mod-**** that I am, I've been involved with several game communities directly, and quite a few more indirectly. So I've seen firsthand why and how communities turn to crap and bite the dust.

    Usually, it starts with elitism between the older ranks and the new players (or something else to divide people). The tricky part here is it can actually not even seem like elitism to the older ranks. They may genuinely be helpful and friendly people, yet if you aren't very careful and constantly on the look out for it, elitism can build up very, very fast. This is what has happened with the mod communities I've been with (I won't name names, but those who know me know exactly which ones I'm talking about). Again I say, its easy for this one to creep up. It was even starting to happen here a bit, but thankfully I think that has receeded.

    After elitism gets set in, things go downhill fast. Very fast. I'm talking maybe within a few months a place will go from a cheery newcomer-welcoming place to a hellhouse. Whether people get alienated, or there are "wars" amongst groups, or something else, whatever happens things go downhill.

    Why has NS not gone this route yet? It could be one or more of several things.

    - NS is still the newest big HL mod, perhaps there just hasn't been enough time for things to go downhill yet.

    - The NS community standards are by far higher and stricter than other communities. The biggest example of this is the strict language/content guidelines set up by the NS team for the forums and IRC, as well as the enforcement of them. I applaud the NS team for taking the stand they did on this issue.

    - Due to the complex nature of the mod, a different (more mature perhaps) crowd is drawn to it, thus making this less of a problem? Note: its less, people are still stupid people, regardless of age...

    So which of these are correct? Will NS eventually fall to the level that other communities are at? I sure hope not, and as an op in #ns I'm going to try my damnedest to keep that from happening. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Interesting post!

    I certanly thing you're right on one perticular point, that NS, unlike other mods involves actually a bit of maturity to play the game. I mean if you don't have the skill to think about what you're doing in this game, then there is no point in playing
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--joev+Mar 29 2003, 06:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (joev @ Mar 29 2003, 06:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Everyone should learn to take 10 deep breaths when we read something that gets up our noses... Then think about posting... then think some more... then not bother :) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Indeed. If I posted everything I wanted to here, well I certainly wouldn't be contributing to anything.

    Here's a little tip that I'll share. Its what I do when somebody posts something insanely stupid or begs for flaming or etc.

    Click reply, type out the post as much as you want, type everything you need to to get it out of your system. Then click the big X in the corner rather than reply. :P

    I know, it sounds stupid, but try it, and you'll see that it actually does help vent some frustration.
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Mar 29 2003, 03:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Mar 29 2003, 03:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> [...]
    Here's a little tip that I'll share. Its what I do when somebody posts something insanely stupid or begs for flaming or etc.

    Click reply, type out the post as much as you want, type everything you need to to get it out of your system. Then click the big X in the corner rather than reply. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I know, it sounds stupid, but try it, and you'll see that it actually does help vent some frustration. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hmm...I thought I was the only one who did that. Glad to see I'm not alone.
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