Sensory Chambers

Gnatsum

<div class="IPBDescription">The ultimate strategy in 1.1</div> You know how marines can find out that hives have been taken by aliens because a hive is there

but in 1.1, sensorie chambers will hide them which will add another level of difficulty to marine strategy..

just drop a few sensorys in all 3 hives and then you'lll fool them

behahhahaha

MeltedSnowman

WOW, THAT IS ULTIMATE~~~

It's a good delaying tactic, but we don't know how scanner sweep will affect the sensory's cloaking yet.

Trevelyan

3 rambo marines will solve the problem... and also it is REALLY obvious which hive they started in when the skulks rush from a certian direction

Deacon

1. Hive noises.
2. Spawning aliens.
3. Starting RT.

That said, building SCs first would pretty much kill an early-game hive rush. Spawning invisible would give the aliens a massive home-field advantage.

Crisqo

Answer to the cloaked hive...Shoot one bullet in the direction of the hive and if you hear something scream, there's a hive. However don't let this stop you from putting down sensory first...It's still a good idea.

That_Annoying_Kid

very true, you can also look for the splatters of green alien body liquids etc

ZERG

I can just image invisible WOLs...

AIRinc_FaReZ

<!--QuoteBegin--ZERG!!+Mar 27 2003, 01:41 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ZERG!! @ Mar 27 2003, 01:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can just image invisible WOLs... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
ouch.

marine : darn this lag i cant even walk through an open corridor without getting stuck
2 seconds later...
marine :HEY WTH WHATS THIS WOL DOING RIGHT IN MY FACE!?!
2 seconds later.........

Deacon

<!--QuoteBegin--Deacon+Mar 26 2003, 07:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Deacon @ Mar 26 2003, 07:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That said, building SCs first would pretty much kill an early-game hive rush. Spawning invisible would give the aliens a massive home-field advantage. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
My bad. Apparently it does not cloak nearby aliens. I was confusing 1.1 with some of the stuff from the I+S board.

So the uses I'm seeing are:
1. Hiding single OCs placed randomly through the map
2. Hiding RTs
3. Concealing the size of WOLs (is that two OCs? four? four backed by DCs? stacked?)

Maybe viable as a second-hive construction. But I'd be hesitant to trade carapace and healing stations for a few invisible OCs.

nny

sensory making nearby sctructures invisible has already been hacked into voogru's servers, with amusing results for sure

Vahn_Paktu

Not "hacked" but added is a better. Its a mod he did.

hamper

ip? i'd like to try it sounds like a neat addition

BlackPanther

pfft... useless strategy.. since you can just scan the hive which will reveal it lol

Rion

<!--QuoteBegin--Darkbolt101+Mar 26 2003, 04:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Darkbolt101 @ Mar 26 2003, 04:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You know how marines can find out that hives have been taken by aliens because a hive is there

but in 1.1, sensorie chambers will hide them which will add another level of difficulty to marine strategy..

just drop a few sensorys in all 3 hives and then you'lll fool them

behahhahaha <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm just wondering if the big blue circle from MT will still show up.

matso

Cloaking - and silence - will only be a novelty of marginal usefulness unless MT gets a counter or is seriously nerfed.

SoulSkorpion

<!--QuoteBegin--BlackPanther+Mar 29 2003, 03:36 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlackPanther @ Mar 29 2003, 03:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> pfft... useless strategy.. since you can just scan the hive which will reveal it lol <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Exactly what I was thinking.

There's also the fact that cloaking is useless without granting full invisibility. And that you can't move with it on.

Black_Ops_Lerk_Master

Having invisible WOLs and stuff will mean that everytime a marine gets shot by an invisi OC, he will call for a tf meaning there will literally be siege camps all over the map.

Zeo

I thought motion tracking was becoming even more sensitive?
But SC first, ah we'll have some fun with that.
Recently I've been getting Movement up initially. Level 3 silence is a killer <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Especially on the close quarters maps like nancy. It brings the question, which sense do you rely on primarily?

If sight: Sensory->cloak will be biggest threat
If sound: Movement->silence will be biggest threat

AIRinc_FaReZ

sound warns me before i enter the room, but if i here skulk, but dont SEE skulk = me no shoot. therefore against me, cloak > silence.

Stakhanov

Silence sounds better for surprise attacks and hunting , while Cloak looks better suited for camping... If marines hear skulk and cloaking sounds they will get suspicious and prepared for sudden strikes. On the other hand , when you have silence , you can better hear marine footsteps and give them heart attacks when you burst out of a vent/wall/bend.

AIRinc_FaReZ

even if marines hear cloaking sounds around the corner its still pretty hard to pinpoint the exact location before its too late. unless the skulk happened to cloak near a light (messes alot with cloak) or the marine messed with his screen gamma.