Anyone Know Of Any Servers That Wouldn't Mind

BarxBaron · March 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">havin' newbie comms?</div> I consider myself a good 'rine and so-so skulk .......

I also consider myself a decent gorge.......

but I have yet to com and I wanna experience it. The only problem is that I play regularly on servers
with people who are pretty good, and I know they would whine if a newbie comm was in the chair
(I've seen em' do it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> )

Anyone know of any servers who wouldn't mind newer comms or are
a bit more newbie friendly?

FireStorm · March 2003

First off, start a lan game on your computer and get used to the interface. Then go to a server and if you're a good marine nobody will notice you're a noob comm.

Try to play on custom maps such as ns_siege or ns_missilecommand. They are pretty easy to command.

BarxBaron · March 2003

well yes I've commanded a few 'bot games' on lan <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

and understand the interface and even have general ideas of how I would wanna com

the only prob is that being a good marine does NOT mean people will appreciate you
if you are a new com......I've seen some pretty good people crapped on cuz they were comming and
were new......yet were good ground players (hell even server regulars)

thats why I'm scared of comming <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Sperber · March 2003

My suggestion is to play on a pub server on a marine team until your team ends up with an obviously bad comm or noone volunteering for the chair, then take your chance and asume command.

But you should have a strong self-confidence to ignore disruptive players who make a sport of criticizing the commander because he's not going along with their own ideas of commanding. Just ignore them. If you have any good players on the marine team, they usually try to adapt to the tools and orders you give them.

Should you lose the round you've comm'ed, let someone else take the seat (even if you think it wasn't your fault). If the round was won, you'll most likely have the approval of the majority of the team to re-take command in the next round.

Rikimaru0 · March 2003

yesterday i got a "omg what a noob he built an armory by our base, omg omg omg... EJECT"

<img src='http://www.paranoidpress.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

ill try that lan game thing <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Duck · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rikimaru0 @ Mar 19 2003, 11:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> yesterday i got a "omg what a noob he built an armory by our base, omg omg omg... EJECT"

<img src='http://www.paranoidpress.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

ill try that lan game thing <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Just wait until you get the "omg he won't give me an HMG! EJECT! EJECT!" 30 seconds into the game. It's even worse when they do indeed eject you.

Azrael_38 · March 2003

There's one REALLY EASY way to get comming experience... Play on servers with only 2-3 people (making it a 3-4 player game)... Ify ou you say you're a noob and wanna try comm (make sure they know you've played as marine enough and READ THE MANUAL to know the tech tree/buidlings)... I'm pretty sure most people playing on such a small game don't mind having a noob comm (after all, players don't care about winning on small games, they only want to have peace until marines get HMG/JP and aliens get 2nd hive)...

Usually, the other marine player will help you out with what to build, and since there's only 1 other marine, there won't be large amounts of micromanagement/yelling for equipment...

Just remember:
-Join 2-3 player servers
-Say "I'm kinda new to NS and I want to try comming..."

Rikimaru0 · March 2003

yea i did that last nite, it was a 4 person game, i was comm, it gets confusing what to build next when you think you built it all..

i read the whole manual, every word <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

im getting more experience with comm'ing. i actually had a teammate say to another one "shut the hell up and let the comm command" cuz someone was trying to tell me to give him this, put this here.. etc <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

i get confused and such when i have 3 areas to build/manage and a hellofa lot of marines to supply all at once <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'>

its tough but i like it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

next thing to do is get good at gorgin and try all the updates..
cloaking sounds awsome, total cloak with level3 <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

btw, does level 3 mean you have 3 of that chamber up?

i got yelled at for building a sensory chamber instead of a movement <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>
he was like "omg omg, he built a sensory and not a movement, noob, omg. im out of here"
hehe <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

tnx

Lucid · March 2003

tip: dont ever EVER drop a turret factory in base. Go for quick upgrades or get MT, or lock down some hives, or cap like 4 res nodes, but for the love of something that you love DONT EVER DROP A TF in base. unless you have insane res and have 2 hives locked down.

disclaimer: i personnaly hate locking hives down. It's boring. It can work on a server full of nub aliens but it's not fun for anyone.

INeedAName · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Rikimaru0 @ Mar 20 2003, 12:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
next thing to do is get good at gorgin and try all the updates..
cloaking sounds awsome, total cloak with level3 <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Total cloaking was taken out in 1.04. Each level of cloaking determines the speed in which you cloak. One sensory chamber is x amount of seconds, two speeds up the cloaking, and the third is the fastest. You can still be seen, but you're really faint.

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>btw, does level 3 mean you have 3 of that chamber up?</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Yes. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>tip: dont ever EVER drop a turret factory in base. Go for quick upgrades or get MT, or lock down some hives, or cap like 4 res nodes, but for the love of something that you love DONT EVER DROP A TF in base. unless you have insane res and have 2 hives locked down.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

I remember in the early days of the game that the TF was the most important thing to build. Now everyone hates the tactic.

Byeka · March 2003

Actually everytime i enter a game as marine now, it seems the first thing the comm does is build a tf. i hate it but no-one even sees to comment. dunno, i don't do it when i'm comm though.

Lucid · March 2003

it's because everyone thinks in old warcraft or starcraft terms. they think they can turtle up BGH style and then send out a massive army to end it all. Fact is though, 1-2 marines and a pack of mines can protect the base no problem. Plus you have marines spawning in all the time when they die out in the field. Money is much better spent on upgrades. Armor 1 does wonders in pubs.

Mindmeldme · March 2003

Well, i won't go into tactics or strat with you or anything in this area. I recommend that you go to the servers you are usually in...with players you know and admins and what not. At some stage just ask, as the game begins, if people mind if you command. If you have to just rush the chair. I've seen a couple lads hop in...only to build 2 ip's and an armory and then jump out saying that's all they know.

When you get a chance...comm. I recommend from the start of the server...that's the best experince...your not trying to find what' wrong or what's where or why in the name of god the last comm did something that way. Get in as soon as you can, let your team know your somewhat new and just start out. Easiest thing to do is try...listen to the marines you know are vet's...take advice if offered...stick to your plan but be ready to change if need be. There is nothing worse then a commander who refuses to alter his master plan at all. Don't be afraid to try new things.

Learn to reward good marines...stick to areas...take certain points, etc. etc. Most important, get in and try. if you've seen a couple good commanders then try and do some of the things they do...get a feel for the set up...but unnderstand that everything depends on your marines and the aliens you face. The best plan can fall apart with poor troops.

Remember...The marines are only as good as thier commander...however the commander is only as good as his marines.

Good luck

panzerSP · March 2003

Like someone says in this topic is better practise on lan because when you play on internet you must have decisions quickly and if you are noob you do all slowly and maybe take wrong ideas

TheWizard · March 2003

Really, most people dont mind a n00b comm if you let them know you are new.

Just give them a warning and ask if they mind. Usually the smaller servers are best for this. Not many people like to comm them (or there just isnt a skilled comm)

If you are honest that you are new people will respect that and wont leap at your throat.

coil · March 2003

Try the Fists of Ra server, or Nano-Gridlock. While both are pretty high in terms of player skill, they're also nice and high in terms of player niceness. At Nano-Gridlock, tell 'em coil sent you. ^^

telemann · March 2003

My server: "Collateral Damage" (gummicorp.com) is friendly to beginners. At least when I'm around it is. I will usually take the time to answer questions and the like.

Angelus · March 2003

I'm usually up for letting new comms have a go... i try to be as helpful to new people as i possibly can (depends if they're willing to learn or not). My clan server ip is in my sig.

Whether you stay as comm if your new or not depends on whos playing... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> i find that some people can be complete idiots and not give anyone a chance to try comming and just start ejecting them.

Bogglesteinsky · March 2003

as an experienced commander (not perfect, just experienced) i find that sometimes the best thing to do with the people that shout "OMG N00B COMM WTH DID YOU RELOCATE TO CARGO BAY? EJECT EJECT COMM" is just to say calmly: "DO YOU WANT TO COMM? IF NO, SUYF, IF YES, THE CHAIR IS YOURS and oh, btw i farted in there so it may smell a bit...."

then, if the game is lost, you a: have someone to blame it on and b: you have taught them a lesson that comming is a lot more difficult than it sounds.

but, tbh, a lan game with bots is only good for learing the basics ie - the interface.

to really get some experience, get on the internet and find a small game.

then, gradually join larger and larger games. if you can, find a server and stick to it. The regulars will soon accept you into their little group, and youll make some friends who can back you up when you are faced with the "n00b Comm" marine. i just hope it never happens to you...

Rikimaru0 · March 2003

i dont build a tf.. i lay mines right away.
im not a great comm but let me know if this basic plan is good.

:COMM:
-1 infantry portal
-1 armory
-1 arms lab
-mines
-res
-research and upgrades
-eventually tf

that is basically the order i try and follow, but sometimes it varies depending on situation.

is it better to stay at the command center or move it to a hive location?

[EDIT]btw, where can i get bots for this mod? [/EDIT]

Angelus · March 2003

not too sure about the comming part, but for bots, take a look back through the General Discussion forum section. its in there somewhere. you cant miss it it has 30 sommat pages...im far to lazy to go lookin through there for it...

or, alternatively... as i just decided to look at the readme for a link to his site: <a href='http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pat.murphy/rcbot' target='_blank'>http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pat.murphy/rcbot</a>

Maybe im not as lazy as i make out to be... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

LeMort · March 2003

If you want to become familiar with the technology tree, you can also do "sv_cheats 1" in your console when you're on your lan server, then you can build without any interruptions. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Anyone Know Of Any Servers That Wouldn't Mind

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