Just Went Wireless At Home

MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
edited February 2003 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">I was home sick anyways</div> Well, I was home sick so I decided to finally setup our new WI-FI (802.11b) network using Microsoft's new MN-500 basestation. I have to say it was the easiest home network setup I've ever done. I literally only had to plug in the router/switch/wireless antenna to my cable mode, plug in the wireless card to the laptop, plug this pc and another into two of the basestation's 4 cat-5 jacks, let the CD autoplay, and boom: Instant shared connection, with wireless and cabled connections. Very, very cool. No screwing with initial settings, no having to beg DHCP to work, nothing. Not that I mind doing those things, but if you want to recommend a simple home networking solution to a non-tech friend, I'd say go with this. Your mother could handle it.

Right now I'm typing away at my desk on one PC, another one is FTPing up some files, and the old lady is VPN tunnelled into her office from the living room. Snazzy.

For those of you not in the know, I am a networking and client/server engineer and have been working as a consultant for about 8 years. I've never seen anything as easy as this, even with some commercial products I've worked on like Radioframe, Nortel's proprietary WI-FI, and Cisco's solutions and for a SOHO situation, this rules. It even beats Sonicwall for ease of use, which I always thought was the ruling king. I'll stop gushing now, I sound like a fanboy.

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  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    I was reading something about how "hackers" <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> drive around downtown streets looking for insecure wireless networks...

    How much did the basestation cost? i might try it
  • FlatlineUTDFlatlineUTD Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7695Members
    It's called "war driving," and it's hella fun. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Anyway, wireless LANs are just amazing at home. My house is running one that covers the entire house and our backyard, so it's just amazing. Great speed up and down.

    The wireless at my school however, sucks horribly. It's spread so thin that download speeds are awful. It drops out when too many people (like 10000+) are on, and from what I've heard, it goes out for days at a time. That's why I'm on regular AT&T at my apartment on campus. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    I read about that too, and if you leave the default settings on, it's certainly possible. This basestation gives you some good security options though, where you can specify 64-bit and 128-bit encryption, limit connections to certain MAC addresses, limit by node names, and limit by timeframes. So unless you really feel like it, you can avoid someone tailgating your internet connection.

    The MN-500 router was $129, the MN-520 wireless adapter for the laptop was $30. I already had ethernet cards in the other two machines, but the MN-120 ethernet cards were going for about $20 apiece. All best buy prices, I'm sure you could find cheaper if you looked hard. If you use the MN-series network cards throughout, it's even easier to setup. If you're looking for that extra edge of easiness.

    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    Sounds pretty smart. I just don't like that idea of all the radiation flying around my house tho.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Feb 24 2003, 03:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Feb 24 2003, 03:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, I was home sick so I decided to finally setup our new WI-FI (802.11b) network using Microsoft's new MN-500 basestation. I have to say it was the easiest home network setup I've ever done. I literally only had to plug in the router/switch/wireless antenna to my cable mode, plug in the wireless card to the laptop, plug this pc and another into two of the basestation's 4 cat-5 jacks, let the CD autoplay, and boom: Instant shared connection, with wireless and cabled connections. Very, very cool. No screwing with initial settings, no having to beg DHCP to work, nothing. Not that I mind doing those things, but if you want to recommend a simple home networking solution to a non-tech friend, I'd say go with this. Your mother could handle it.

    Right now I'm typing away at my desk on one PC, another one is FTPing up some files, and the old lady is VPN tunnelled into her office from the living room. Snazzy.

    For those of you not in the know, I am a networking and client/server engineer and have been working as a consultant for about 8 years. I've never seen anything as easy as this, even with some commercial products I've worked on like Radioframe, Nortel's proprietary WI-FI, and Cisco's solutions and for a SOHO situation, this rules. It even beats Sonicwall for ease of use, which I always thought was the ruling king. I'll stop gushing now, I sound like a fanboy. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Is it just me, or does that sound creepily like one of those apple commercials?
  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    HAHAHAHAHA!! It so does!
  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    Monse is a fanboy! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DY357LXDY357LX Playing since day 1. Still can&#39;t Comm. England Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1651Members, Constellation
    Home sick?
    Meaning you're away from homeand wanna go back?
    Or, as in at home and ill?
    If you're ill... whats wrong and get well soon <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited February 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Feb 24 2003, 04:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Feb 24 2003, 04:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is it just me, or does that sound creepily like one of those apple commercials? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Monse has SWITCHED! :O
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Feb 24 2003, 08:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Feb 24 2003, 08:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Feb 24 2003, 04:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Feb 24 2003, 04:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is it just me, or does that sound creepily like one of those apple commercials? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Monse has SWITCHED! :O <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    God help us.

    <a href='http://www.drunkgamers.com/switch0001.shtml' target='_blank'>http://www.drunkgamers.com/switch0001.shtml</a>
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    If only you could make your network give "Get off my lawn!!!" as a tie-in message. That would scare those war drivers good....
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    Oh FFS... those apple adds make me want to attack all Mac users with a halberd, cut off their arms, and scream 'IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO USE A COMPUTER YOU $%@^&% MORONS!!!"

    Then I calm down.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    I wanna do that simply because they're mac users. Them opening their mouths just makes me want to do it with rustier implements.
  • LegionnairedLegionnaired Join Date: 2002-04-30 Member: 552Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Feb 24 2003, 08:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Feb 24 2003, 08:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh FFS... those apple adds make me want to attack all Mac users with a halberd, cut off their arms, and scream 'IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO USE A COMPUTER YOU $%@^&% MORONS!!!"

    Then I calm down. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Semper-Fi, marine!
  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    mac wireless is easy. Easy to hack.

    I did some wardriving when I went back home, and found a wireless that I could connect to whenever it wasn't too windy. The best part was that I had FULL access to the router, so I doubt they even realize I used it (mm, deletion of data that could be traced back to me).

    As for wireless, Monse sounds like he's not stupid (read, 8 years in da biz), so I don't think you guys will be able to access his 'net.

    Personally just use MAC addresses, they were the easiest for me to config..
  • localhost2600localhost2600 Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10448Members
    Wow i'm surprised, as i tried M$'s first gen wireless stuff and it suxed badly...i don't remember the mdl #'s caues it was about 8 mts ago but it had about a 30ft range in open space and was slower than any other wi-fi network i had setup previously....glad to hear they fixed something....as for the wardriveing thing, there was a nice article in 2600 mag (summer 02) where they tested wi-fi networks in manhattan
    In a 90min period they found 448 networks 74% of them were totaly unsecured, and 75 of the access points they found were at factory default configurations...it is a nice article also gives you a few tips on securing them and how wi-fi works
  • TiioTiio Join Date: 2003-01-07 Member: 12012Members, Constellation
    Bah, you KNOW you love Ellen.

    "It was like beep beep beep beep beep beep beep... and my paper... was gone. It devoured... my paper."

    I LOVE YOU ELLEN!

    </fanboy>
  • HBNayrHBNayr Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 930Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Tiio+Feb 25 2003, 03:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tiio @ Feb 25 2003, 03:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> "It was like beep beep beep beep beep beep beep... and my paper... was gone. It devoured... my paper." <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    "It was a really good paper, too."

    <a href='http://www.apple.com/switch/ads/ellenfeiss.html' target='_blank'>Mac. For those times you're too high to operate heavy machinery.</a>

    <a href='http://www.pixelred.com/switch.htm' target='_blank'>He sells it so well.</a>

    -Ryan!


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  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Mac. For those times you're too high to operate heavy machinery.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    OH MY GOD! Please tell me they didn't show that on TV!!!!
  • VimstlVimstl Join Date: 2002-11-28 Member: 10145Members
    I went wireless a few months ago with Linksys gear: a router/switch and wireless USB adapters for the remote PCs. Setup was pretty easy, but required some tweaking to get all the workstations sharing a single internet connection.

    Having gone wireless, I would never go back to the wired skein of death.
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