<!--QuoteBegin--Aaron+Feb 24 2003, 04:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aaron @ Feb 24 2003, 04:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I would like an answer on the /kill issue, as it would seem to render this ability useless... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Hmm, so an instant kill is useless, eh? That's what "kill" is after all.
<!--QuoteBegin--Souris+Feb 24 2003, 12:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Souris @ Feb 24 2003, 12:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Aaron+Feb 24 2003, 04:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aaron @ Feb 24 2003, 04:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I would like an answer on the /kill issue, as it would seem to render this ability useless... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Hmm, so an instant kill is useless, eh? That's what "kill" is after all. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I beleive the "ability" that would be "useless" would be devour, if a marine could just "kill", he would be back into the fray sooner than if the onos "digested" him.
while the marine is being digested he should see the onos in 3rd person, in reality no one wants to sit there staring at a black screen with nothing but your health counter slowing ticking down as company
<!--QuoteBegin--Aaron+Feb 24 2003, 04:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aaron @ Feb 24 2003, 04:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I would like an answer on the /kill issue, as it would seem to render this ability useless...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well I know for a fact that you can disallow the "kill" command in certain gameplay situations (other mods have done it). So seeing that: a) this is quite obvious and b) Flayra is not an idiot; this has probably already been taken care of.
But yeah, I´d rather get something to do instead of staring at a blank screen for as much as 30 seconds even if it´s playing Tetris: If you lose you die - beat the highscore and the onos xenocides <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
after the onos is done eating is he gonna plomp a steamer on the floor? and then when marines run through it they will get stuck. just a thought but if the big guy eats he should prolly take a crap.
I think kill would probably be disabled while you're in the belly of the beast. The total digestion time will probably be closer to 10 or 15 seconds, 30 sounds like way too much on second thought.
<!--QuoteBegin--Flayra+Feb 24 2003, 01:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flayra @ Feb 24 2003, 01:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think kill would probably be disabled while you're in the belly of the beast. The total digestion time will probably be closer to 10 or 15 seconds, 30 sounds like way too much on second thought. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Will you also disable F4?
I think 10-15 seconds is more reasonable since at 30 seconds, most people can just hit retry and jump back into the game instead of waiting.
I'm not too certain I'd appreciate this idea, if the marine had no plausible counter to it. Sure, if you see an Onos coming at you full tilt, get the hell out of his way. Jetpacks will become that much more invaluable, as you can hang on the ceiling, and empty your clip into the thing while it tries to take your foot off.
The Onos should have a 'cap' on the number of marines it can eat, total, from metamorphasis to death. Say, two, maybe three marines. Each 'meal' would further slow the Onos, until the thing moved like a HA carrying a CC. This would prevent the endless series of spawnchomps I forsee with this ability.
But obviously, I don't know all the upgrades the marines are (hopefully) getting. Sure, it's fun to fight a losing battle as the marines, but this just seems like adding another Fatality to the Kharaa, so the aliens won't get as bored of easily slaughtering the marine forces.
So.. I'm just curious now, what is the equivalent marine one-shot kill, here? Since we're borrowing heavily from Starcraft/Warcraft ideas.. why not a bio-statis field, ala the Ghost's Lockdown ability?
<!--QuoteBegin--Kharaa_0z+Feb 24 2003, 05:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kharaa_0z @ Feb 24 2003, 05:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> while the marine is being digested he should see the onos in 3rd person, in reality no one wants to sit there staring at a black screen with nothing but your health counter slowing ticking down as company <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> maybe he could see acids spewing all over, gushing in his eyes, we'd hear him (yourself?) screaming like never before and if you use your flashlight (who doesn't use a flashlight when eaten by an onos?) you can see his inner organs and stuff <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> I'd ask an onos to eat me just for that <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
i just want to see the ANIMATION! and it better lookc good...if the marine simply "dissapears"...i will not be a happy soldier.. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> also, i believe This move should replace the least used attack for Onos....maybe a poll to decide? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Corporal Cyn+Feb 24 2003, 02:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Corporal Cyn @ Feb 24 2003, 02:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> slow the Onos, until the thing moved like a HA carrying a CC. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> CC = ?
<!--QuoteBegin--Flayra+Feb 24 2003, 01:42 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flayra @ Feb 24 2003, 01:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think kill would probably be disabled while you're in the belly of the beast. The total digestion time will probably be closer to 10 or 15 seconds, 30 sounds like way too much on second thought. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> 10-15 seconds before going into the spawn queue, right? That does seem better considering if you were eaten, there's a possibility of most of your team being dead... = a long time to spawn anyways
<!--QuoteBegin--MMZ>Torak+Feb 24 2003, 11:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MMZ>Torak @ Feb 24 2003, 11:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Give primal scream to the Gorge, but call it something else. Take away the silly spit attack no one uses and push everything down a step to make primal scream the third hive ability. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I agree, spit is USELESS.. the only time i see it used is when people are practicing target practice, while waiting for res for a node.. primal scream would be alright, i suppose. it would put the gorge on the frontline more often.
has anyone gotten a kill from SPIT? i see healthspray kills constantly, but i've never really seen a gorge attempt to spit a guy to death. perhaps if spit was more like a corrosive material... acid? and would do more damage vs. HA's and buildings (turrets, etc.)
---------PS: Sorry for triple post.. didn't realize i was replying to the same topic
<!--QuoteBegin--Corporal Cyn+Feb 24 2003, 03:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Corporal Cyn @ Feb 24 2003, 03:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The Onos should have a 'cap' on the number of marines it can eat, total, from metamorphasis to death. Say, two, maybe three marines. Each 'meal' would further slow the Onos, until the thing moved like a HA carrying a CC. This would prevent the endless series of spawnchomps I forsee with this ability. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I don't think you'd have to worry about that. Chances are, we'll see a Onos that devoured a marine move much slower, lose a lot of attack abilities, etc.
Unless Flayra's going to marines decimation. Then I can't talk...:-x
<!--QuoteBegin--MasterEvilAce+Feb 24 2003, 05:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MasterEvilAce @ Feb 24 2003, 05:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> has anyone gotten a kill from SPIT? i see healthspray kills constantly, but i've never really seen a gorge attempt to spit a guy to death. perhaps if spit was more like a corrosive material... acid? and would do more damage vs. HA's and buildings (turrets, etc.)
<!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I've done it a handful of times, but I have to agree that it's practically useless. Most of the time, if I have to defend myself as a gorge, it's heal spray away.
do NOT remove paralyse it's like the best anti-JP weapon aliens got, and it is horribly underused. I won't accept it. I'll... I'll!!! I'll go play NS now...
rumor has it that in early NS builds, the onos didn't even have hitpoints, and therefore was basically unkillable (i'm still guessing a door closing could crush it, etc.). Onos (at least in 1.04) are GAME ENDERS, you're not supposed to be able to win against them unless your opponents are complete and utter idiots.
killing an ha/hmg in one click is bad? haven't you ever seen charge used correctly? hehehe.
whatever delay is implemented, people will learn to deal with it. Battlefield 1942 has huge spawning delays. Hell, Counterstrike can have a huge spawning delay. It does a very good job of <i>teaching people not to die</i>, or in this case, not to let an onos walk up to you and eat your face.
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(No, I haven't read the last 12 pages. Get over it.)
In my opinion it's most likely bite that'll get replaced. If not, then why would anyone use devour? Onos can easily decimate an entire marine squad just by 'horn'ing their way through them. Having the Onos need to devour it's pray would give the marines a chance of fighting back.
mm i still say.. if he devours u.. u still alive in his belly. but u can shoot at him and damage him.. and if he wants he can spit u out again =P i said this earlier. but some pll dont bother looking near the beginning =)
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Actually know a number of people that this ability will draw into the game<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--MasterEvilAce+Feb 24 2003, 04:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MasterEvilAce @ Feb 24 2003, 04:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> has anyone gotten a kill from SPIT? i see healthspray kills constantly, but i've never really seen a gorge attempt to spit a guy to death. perhaps if spit was more like a corrosive material... acid? and would do more damage vs. HA's and buildings (turrets, etc.) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Oh yes, I've gotten spit kills, and many. Most of them during one game. Marines had powersilo and viaduct, aliens had cargo hive. I managed to get on the high platforms in power silo as a gorge and started building a wall of lame up there. Defense and offense chambers. and dropped a few offenses into the pool below (nice decoy if they got sieges and start pinging me).
After the defense chambers are up I start with offense, and those chambers start spitting. I could have gone lerk then, but remained gorge as they can absorb much more damage (with a lerk, a few bullets could have killed me), and to rebuild chambers if they got killed. Pretty soon, I have the undivided attention of the whole marine team. I sniped a lot of marines in a few minutes using spit <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> It's a pretty good sniping weapon if you have a WoL to heal you. The best part, of course, was that the marines just couldn't get me out of there, no matter how hard they tried. getting me from the ground was impossible. Jetpackers got shot down pretty quickly. They didn't have a grenade launcher. Eventually, with great effort they managed to siege me. That was the end of it for me, but the rest of the team got viaduct back while the marines weren't looking.
Healthspray is short-ranged. Spit is great when you're in a sniping position (I had the OC's too, but everyone knows those things can't aim).
Now, for the Onos, if anything had to go it'd be charge. It's not really needed when you can gore things. Scream combined with gore is pretty devastating. I use scream all the time when Onos. And paralyze is very useful too.
What should the marine see while in the Onos? Mmm... Tentacles attacking him! :evil: <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
All I can say it now is YUMMY! <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo-->
This ability will add a little more to onos besides charging in like a tank... Another option could probably be when the human is finally devoured...the ono will get some health back??
<!--QuoteBegin--Mart+Feb 24 2003, 01:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mart @ Feb 24 2003, 01:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In my opinion it's most likely bite that'll get replaced. If not, then why would anyone use devour? Onos can easily decimate an entire marine squad just by 'horn'ing their way through them. Having the Onos need to devour it's prey would give the marines a chance of fighting back. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The beaut of the ability is that it pulls a marine out of combat, but does not put him in the respawn queue. If the teams had even players before, the aliens will have a leg up on them. Imagine the power of devouring an entire team of marines. You then have 30 seconds to rampage all over their stuff while they digest. THEN they have to enter the repawn queue, and wait another few seconds to respawn. Meanwhile you've probably destroyed an IP, meaning they respawn even slower.
Frankly I think it's a beautiful idea, but it has to be excuted well, or it's going to be a hayday for exploiters.
As for firing the gun while being devoured? I don't think that's a very good idea. If you were swallowed by a giant, marauding creature. Odds are you aren't going to worry about holding onto the gun. You are going to be pushing and punching to try and get out. The stomach is also a very constrictive environment. It has to be, to help push food around. Even if you end up with a gun in your hand, the odds are high that you'll have it pointed at yourself, either because you're curled up in a ball, or because you've gotten turned around somehow. You sure you want to pull that trigger? Plus, how are you going to reload? Just reach down to your belt and swing that clip up into your weapon, all the while being pushed, pulled, and generally manipluated in the dark, with no air, and acid eating at every surface on your body? Stomach muscles are necessarily strong -- stronger than many skeletal muscles. That Onos is gonna be squeezing you something awful. Something tells me you are hardly going to be operational. (Who says your weapon can even fire in that kind of harsh environment anyways?)
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<!--QuoteBegin--Pfhreak+Feb 25 2003, 03:05 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pfhreak @ Feb 25 2003, 03:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The beaut of the ability is that it pulls a marine out of combat, but does not put him in the respawn queue. If the teams had even players before, the aliens will have a leg up on them. Imagine the power of devouring an entire team of marines. You then have 30 seconds to rampage all over their stuff while they digest. THEN they have to enter the repawn queue, and wait another few seconds to respawn. Meanwhile you've probably destroyed an IP, meaning they respawn even slower.
Pfhreak <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Exactly, you've just proven my point that the original bite/horn will be rendered useless. Given the choice between instantly killing someone or devouring them and them having to wait twice as long to respawn, which would you choose?
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Hmm, so an instant kill is useless, eh? That's what "kill" is after all.
Hmm, so an instant kill is useless, eh? That's what "kill" is after all. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I beleive the "ability" that would be "useless" would be devour, if a marine could just "kill", he would be back into the fray sooner than if the onos "digested" him.
I surely hope it's the scream, but push it down to 2nd hive (3rd ability)
Well I know for a fact that you can disallow the "kill" command in certain gameplay situations (other mods have done it). So seeing that: a) this is quite obvious and b) Flayra is not an idiot; this has probably already been taken care of.
But yeah, I´d rather get something to do instead of staring at a blank screen for as much as 30 seconds even if it´s playing Tetris: If you lose you die - beat the highscore and the onos xenocides <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
and then when marines run through it they will get stuck.
just a thought but if the big guy eats he should prolly take a crap.
just wondering,
MMZ>Fatass Cartman
Will you also disable F4?
I think 10-15 seconds is more reasonable since at 30 seconds, most people can just hit retry and jump back into the game instead of waiting.
The Onos should have a 'cap' on the number of marines it can eat, total, from metamorphasis to death. Say, two, maybe three marines. Each 'meal' would further slow the Onos, until the thing moved like a HA carrying a CC. This would prevent the endless series of spawnchomps I forsee with this ability.
But obviously, I don't know all the upgrades the marines are (hopefully) getting. Sure, it's fun to fight a losing battle as the marines, but this just seems like adding another Fatality to the Kharaa, so the aliens won't get as bored of easily slaughtering the marine forces.
So.. I'm just curious now, what is the equivalent marine one-shot kill, here? Since we're borrowing heavily from Starcraft/Warcraft ideas.. why not a bio-statis field, ala the Ghost's Lockdown ability?
That'd give an Onos pause, wouldn't it now?
maybe he could see acids spewing all over, gushing in his eyes, we'd hear him (yourself?) screaming like never before and if you use your flashlight (who doesn't use a flashlight when eaten by an onos?) you can see his inner organs and stuff <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> I'd ask an onos to eat me just for that <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
also, i believe This move should replace the least used attack for Onos....maybe a poll to decide? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
CC = ?
10-15 seconds before going into the spawn queue, right?
That does seem better considering if you were eaten, there's a possibility of most of your team being dead... = a long time to spawn anyways
I agree, spit is USELESS.. the only time i see it used is when people are practicing target practice, while waiting for res for a node.. primal scream would be alright, i suppose. it would put the gorge on the frontline more often.
has anyone gotten a kill from SPIT? i see healthspray kills constantly, but i've never really seen a gorge attempt to spit a guy to death. perhaps if spit was more like a corrosive material... acid? and would do more damage vs. HA's and buildings (turrets, etc.)
---------PS: Sorry for triple post.. didn't realize i was replying to the same topic
The Onos should have a 'cap' on the number of marines it can eat, total, from metamorphasis to death. Say, two, maybe three marines. Each 'meal' would further slow the Onos, until the thing moved like a HA carrying a CC. This would prevent the endless series of spawnchomps I forsee with this ability.
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I don't think you'd have to worry about that. Chances are, we'll see a Onos that devoured a marine move much slower, lose a lot of attack abilities, etc.
Unless Flayra's going to marines decimation. Then I can't talk...:-x
has anyone gotten a kill from SPIT? i see healthspray kills constantly, but i've never really seen a gorge attempt to spit a guy to death. perhaps if spit was more like a corrosive material... acid? and would do more damage vs. HA's and buildings (turrets, etc.)
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I've done it a handful of times, but I have to agree that it's practically useless. Most of the time, if I have to defend myself as a gorge, it's heal spray away.
I won't accept it. I'll... I'll!!! I'll go play NS now...
killing an ha/hmg in one click is bad? haven't you ever seen charge used correctly? hehehe.
whatever delay is implemented, people will learn to deal with it. Battlefield 1942 has huge spawning delays. Hell, Counterstrike can have a huge spawning delay. It does a very good job of <i>teaching people not to die</i>, or in this case, not to let an onos walk up to you and eat your face.
In my opinion it's most likely bite that'll get replaced. If not, then why would anyone use devour? Onos can easily decimate an entire marine squad just by 'horn'ing their way through them. Having the Onos need to devour it's pray would give the marines a chance of fighting back.
Voreaphiles? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
This could be interesting. But I'm holding off judgement til it actually is released.
Oh yes, I've gotten spit kills, and many. Most of them during one game. Marines had powersilo and viaduct, aliens had cargo hive. I managed to get on the high platforms in power silo as a gorge and started building a wall of lame up there. Defense and offense chambers. and dropped a few offenses into the pool below (nice decoy if they got sieges and start pinging me).
After the defense chambers are up I start with offense, and those chambers start spitting. I could have gone lerk then, but remained gorge as they can absorb much more damage (with a lerk, a few bullets could have killed me), and to rebuild chambers if they got killed. Pretty soon, I have the undivided attention of the whole marine team. I sniped a lot of marines in a few minutes using spit <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> It's a pretty good sniping weapon if you have a WoL to heal you. The best part, of course, was that the marines just couldn't get me out of there, no matter how hard they tried. getting me from the ground was impossible. Jetpackers got shot down pretty quickly. They didn't have a grenade launcher. Eventually, with great effort they managed to siege me. That was the end of it for me, but the rest of the team got viaduct back while the marines weren't looking.
Healthspray is short-ranged. Spit is great when you're in a sniping position (I had the OC's too, but everyone knows those things can't aim).
Now, for the Onos, if anything had to go it'd be charge. It's not really needed when you can gore things. Scream combined with gore is pretty devastating. I use scream all the time when Onos. And paralyze is very useful too.
What should the marine see while in the Onos? Mmm... Tentacles attacking him! :evil: <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
This ability will add a little more to onos besides charging in like a tank... Another option could probably be when the human is finally devoured...the ono will get some health back??
The beaut of the ability is that it pulls a marine out of combat, but does not put him in the respawn queue. If the teams had even players before, the aliens will have a leg up on them. Imagine the power of devouring an entire team of marines. You then have 30 seconds to rampage all over their stuff while they digest. THEN they have to enter the repawn queue, and wait another few seconds to respawn. Meanwhile you've probably destroyed an IP, meaning they respawn even slower.
Frankly I think it's a beautiful idea, but it has to be excuted well, or it's going to be a hayday for exploiters.
As for firing the gun while being devoured? I don't think that's a very good idea. If you were swallowed by a giant, marauding creature. Odds are you aren't going to worry about holding onto the gun. You are going to be pushing and punching to try and get out. The stomach is also a very constrictive environment. It has to be, to help push food around. Even if you end up with a gun in your hand, the odds are high that you'll have it pointed at yourself, either because you're curled up in a ball, or because you've gotten turned around somehow. You sure you want to pull that trigger? Plus, how are you going to reload? Just reach down to your belt and swing that clip up into your weapon, all the while being pushed, pulled, and generally manipluated in the dark, with no air, and acid eating at every surface on your body? Stomach muscles are necessarily strong -- stronger than many skeletal muscles. That Onos is gonna be squeezing you something awful. Something tells me you are hardly going to be operational. (Who says your weapon can even fire in that kind of harsh environment anyways?)
Mmmm.... can't wait to eat me some marines.
Pfhreak
Pfhreak <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Exactly, you've just proven my point that the original bite/horn will be rendered useless. Given the choice between instantly killing someone or devouring them and them having to wait twice as long to respawn, which would you choose?