[mwip]sid's Pistol

DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
edited February 2003 in NS Customization
<div class="IPBDescription">finally comming together</div> hey, if any of you remember, Sid had a whole group of concept art for model weapons, all of them made in *semi-cringe* MS paint....

here's the progress on the pistol, i know it's not the best skin/model in the world, but it's still how i'm gunna learn...

what's new in this?
- Skin (finally figured it out)
- Groups (got them figured out too)

here's how it looks so far::::

-=edit=-
forgot that i'm also going to leanr animation, bane assignment, and really nice skin creation on THIS MODEL!!! (aka, this is a beta...and not being published at the moment)
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  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited February 2003
    here's the conecpt art....:

    you can also see all the rest of his/my concept art at <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=22114' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...ST&f=19&t=22114</a>
  • NargNarg Join Date: 2003-01-14 Member: 12289Members
    absolutly disgusting <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    That actually looks pretty good. Seems sort of like a 93r style pistol, where the kickback would be so great that for accuracy you need a handle in the front to hold, or that's where the clip could be and it could be a caseless munition gun.

    The model needs a little more depth, but it's still good for a beginner. Don't forget though that skins do end up needing to curve a little, so go for gentler shades of green on the edge where the corners are. Or round out the corners a little.
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    i just re-built it.... that one's too horrible to keep... once i get this next one done, i'll post another pic..... thanks for the imput

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Narg Posted on Feb 20 2003, 11:37 PM
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    absolutly disgusting  <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    thanks for agreeing with me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    here's the re-built version.. still way too square for any real use... bust still better than the first one...
  • MorgothMorgoth Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13096Members
    u have progressed with the modeling quite well delarosa
  • SmiteSmite Join Date: 2003-02-09 Member: 13307Members
    edited February 2003
    Why does he stick the barrel on the side? I mean the concept is fine till then. I HAD to mention this.
    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Edit: N/m
  • TyralionTyralion Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9522Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    It feels like that last image you showed was a bit too thin..
  • auto354auto354 Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12750Members
    Yeah slap some meat on it lol.
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    it's at a thickness of 2.. really thin, i know it's thin, but i wanna get it all nice and done before i beef it up...

    anyone have any ideas about how to add vertexes to an already made face?
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    AHAHAHAHA!!!! this next screen will be VERY VERY nice <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> i'm getting a hand on this rounded thing!!!!



    kinda having a problem with materials now, but it's an easy fix...
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited February 2003
    here's the latest re-build....

    and YES, i AM starting completely new each time i'm putting new pics up... (as you can see, i've got LOTS of free time on my hands)


    Stats:
    138 verticies
    268 triangles
  • Jack_HandeyJack_Handey Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10786Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Narg+Feb 20 2003, 11:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Narg @ Feb 20 2003, 11:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> absolutly disgusting <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ditto
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jack Handey+Feb 21 2003, 11:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jack Handey @ Feb 21 2003, 11:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Narg+Feb 20 2003, 11:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Narg @ Feb 20 2003, 11:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> absolutly disgusting  <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ditto <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ok, i sorta agree with you, BUT WHY?<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • NargNarg Join Date: 2003-01-14 Member: 12289Members
    Well the skin mainly ure last screenie fo it is quite good

    the skin is terrible maybey u could ask for some help of ctx or bots for skinning advise

    also if im not mistaken theres no trigger...
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited February 2003
    finally, somone that realizes my fristration...

    it might look like a bad skin, but i'm working on that part.... i've got a new skin to put on it, but first i'm going to fix up my backwards faces....(the black triangles in flat shaded)

    as for the gun it'self, i think it'll be a high velocity shell pistol... so you can grab the front with all your might in an attempt to stay on your feet....

    a pistol aint a pistol if it don't knowck you off your feet.....







    go up a few posts... new pics...
  • SmiteSmite Join Date: 2003-02-09 Member: 13307Members
    That last update looks good, skin is concept art so what can you expect? I recommend inversing the firing grip.
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    AHA!!! a trigger, knew i was missing something, and NO, i'm not using the actual concept art, just about the same thing

    i spiced up the back handle (besides the mounts), but i guess iw wasn't a drastic enough spice to make it show up, it's suposed to have texture, but it's only a 4X4 pattern....

    which is the firing grip?
  • SilentMurdererSilentMurderer Join Date: 2002-10-30 Member: 1751Members
    That's good so far, but i won't say anything because i WANT to be able doing that <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> /me suck at modelling
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    for me, it's like a really complicated game of connect the dots, which i was always good at <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    my one major problem with connect-the-dots is that i never followed the numbers, just started connecting them, i could see what it was without the lame numbers.... why pay attention to them? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    but anyway, the next one is gunna be a while, i'm redoing the WHOLE entire skin, so maybe y'all will like it at least a little better.....
  • SilentMurdererSilentMurderer Join Date: 2002-10-30 Member: 1751Members
    /me already likes <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    well, i know it looks flat, and a little too plastic, but i don't know where to start... i guess i can't really make skins too great... most of it are hackjobs from otehr guns... i've got a whole skin layed out for inclusion of into the "daemon elite" style... but that's the 2nd skin....gotta get a frist one done....

    lemme try a few photoshop tricks, and see what it looks like.... who knows, i might just get this looking nice (er)...

    if not, i'll try and get coil to get me some art.... i like coil... but if anyone else wants to make some skin parts, go for it....
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    my first attempt at adding depth via textures..... the green for the handle you can find in/on Bots' shotgun, the handle you can find on your default NS hands.... everything else is the same....

    looking at it in this light, it needs more spice, i'm going to add a few little tweaks in on this next one, to see if i can't make it look a little less brick-ish


    here's the new one, let me know what you think.... and please, more than one word replys
  • MCN00bMCN00b Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10693Members
    hey del, how did you make this?
    did you make it from an extruded line or from boxes?
  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    My dream is finally coming true... *tear eyed* Del! This simply rocks! Please ignore what those morons are saying bad about it. I love it, it rocks. Thanks so much <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I could try my hand at skinning the thing, I mean, I'm not half bad... I made my own reskin for the grenade shell, after all <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I like it, it looks simply amazing. For the trigger, remember how it's built into the handle? Kinda odd... i guess I was just thinking too ahead of myself when I drew it.

    Awesome model. A whole lot better than I could ever make or draw. And here i thought I would get better at modelling... and here's Del, beats me at my own game! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I love it man. Simply awesome. Can't wait 'till it's released. I'll give it sounds, too. If you want... I just know where to get some awesome sounds for the thing.

    Anyways, keep up the awersome work! And don't listen to those Morons, what they're saying really isn't helping at all. Saying stuff like, "Disgusting" Isn't going to help it, so why bloody post it?

    Anyways, great job, can't wait for it's release <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Thanks for your time,
    -Sid
  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    I'm still trying to figure out how to get .ms3d models into half-life. If I did, I'd fix this model up, add a skin and add it into NS <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    See the resemblence? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Anyways, sorry for hijacking your thread Del <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SmiteSmite Join Date: 2003-02-09 Member: 13307Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Sid+Feb 22 2003, 01:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sid @ Feb 22 2003, 01:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Please ignore what those morons are saying bad about it. I love it, it rocks.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    HARSH INSULT! INTENSE! <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Del I meant by the firing grip that little piece of uh grey "cloth" shown bolted into the grip of the handle. ?.?
    Yeah... SUGOI DESUNE!!! <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DelarosaDelarosa Naturally Custom Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10214Members, NS1 Playtester
    how it's made....

    create verticies (inside... or the "big ones")
    Create more vertacies (the outside ones...)
    create faces, regroup, move into place...

    tthre is no extrude, "objects" (like Box... Cylender... none of that stuff), and no real skin at the moment....

    McNoob, each "layer" of verticies aren't connected to their mirrors on the other side of the gun, they are only connected to the verticies next to and related to them....i don't know how to get that effect with extrude...

    sid, if you wanna make one, go for it, post it up here, and i'll try it on the model...and no, i didn't beat you at your own game, i've been interested in modeling for quite some time... i just never got around to it...i am a forum junkie, and since i have soo much time on my hands, i decided that the modeling community needed a website (so i learned photoshop so i could make a good site).... then i decided that since everyone else was making hackjobs and such, why not give it a try... and it all started from there...


    still not sure what you meant by invert it, could you explain more? dont be afraid to D/L that image and edit it to point it out....
  • SidSid Corwid of the Free Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12903Members, Constellation
    Wow Del, your awesome! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I thought I was the only one who used the word, "Forum Junkie". Almost scary. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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